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finalizes 2012 London Olympics 12-man roster

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Kobe Bryant -- age 33 -- Los Angeles Lakers: Back to defend his Gold Medal, Bryant stands as the leading veteran voice of the group. He's joked in recent weeks that he will let the younger guys do the heavy lifting while he focuses on closing games, but deferring has never been in his vocabulary. Krzyzewski said on Friday that Bryant enters Olympics play in excellent health and shape.

James Harden -- age 22 -- Oklahoma City Thunder: The NBA's Sixth Man of the Year is getting his first real look for Team USA and he impressed Krzyzewski with his feel for the game and his basketball intelligence. With players like Dwyane Wade and, eventually, Bryant on their way out, he figures to be a national team mainstay going forward.

Chris Paul -- age 27 -- Los Angeles Clippers: A minor thumb injury forced Paul from practice on Friday, although it's not expected to be anything serious. He was slowed by a naggging groin injury during the playoffs so it's been awhile since we've seen Paul play to the best of his abilities. He'll fill a play-making role for Team USA given the bevy of A-list scoring options that will surround him.

Russell Westbrook -- age 23 -- Oklahoma City Thunder: The explosive, relentless Westbrook will bring his constantly attacking style off of Team USA's bench. Bryant said Friday he envisions Westbrook plugging the reserve scorer's role left by Dwyane Wade's absence due to a knee injury. Despite an often spectacular playoffs stretch and top-shelf play during the 2010 World Championships in Turkey, there's a decent chance the rest of the world isn't ready for him.

Deron Williams -- age 28 -- Brooklyn Nets: Like Paul, Williams will play the facilitator's role. Team USA is emphasizing up-tempo play and pick-and-rolls, two areas where Williams can excel. He's sidelined from live play until his new 5-year, $98 million contract with the Nets goes final on July 11.


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Carmelo Anthony -- age 28 -- New York Knicks: Of the returning members of the 2008 squad, Anthony's role is the least clear. He's facing a logjam at his position thanks to James and Durant and he is coming off an up-and-down season with the Knicks, in which he drew criticism for his ball-stopping and which saw Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni, a Team USA assistant, resign. Still, Anthony's finishing ability was of paramount importance in Beijing and he should be able to find plenty of minutes when Team USA switches to smaller looks.

Kevin Durant -- age 23 -- Oklahoma City Thunder: Arguably the world's second-best player, Durant comes to Team USA smarting from a loss to James' Heat in the 2012 Finals just weeks ago. Ever the professional, he spent the first day of practice explaining how Team USA functioned so well because egos are tossed aside and he sounded eager to win his first Gold Medal. Expect the NBA's leading scorer to be a focal point of the offense.

Blake Griffin -- age 23 -- Los Angeles Clippers: Griffin missed out on the 2010 World Championships because of a knee injury and is poised to take his high-flying, gravity-defying game to the international stage. Not known as a premier defender and with limited range, he'll likely be used as a deep reserve, although Team USA can use his rebounding ability

Andre Iguodala -- age 28 -- Philadelphia 76ers: One of the NBA's premier perimeter defenders, Iguodala fills a valuable niche as a lockdown guy who can complement some of the roster's score-first wings.

LeBron James -- age 27 -- Miami Heat: The biggest star in the basketball galxy and the best player on the planet, James heads to London at the peak of his powers and fresh off his first title. He seems at ease with his Team USA teammates and is clearly the central personality off the court. He'll be asked to do it all for Team USA and could potentially play all five positions during the Olympics. He said on Friday that he is ready to embrace the challenge.

Kevin Love -- age 23 -- Minnesota Timberwolves: Love's game has improved and expanded by leaps and bounds in recent years and his outside shooting prowess could be a deadly weapon and match-up nightmare for teams in the Olympics. Expect him to swing up to center at times to make full use of his elite rebounding and outlet-passing. Indeed, there's a 100 percent chance that one of his patented touchdown passes finds itself in a highlight loop next month.

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Tyson Chandler -- age 29 -- New York Knicks: This defense and rebounding specialist simply makes every team that he plays for better. He'll be key in matching up with Spain's length and his shot-blocking ability will dissuade opponents from attacking USA's interior. The knock on Chandler has been foul troubles and he'll need to play smart without any real positional depth behind him.

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Anthony Davis -- age 19 -- New Orleans Hornets: The 2012 NBA Draft's No. 1 pick sprained his ankle just before Team USA minicamp opened, putting his availability into question for the next few weeks. On Friday, Team USA chairman Jerry Colangelo questioned whether he had the "physicality" to compete at the moment. As the most promising young big man since Dwight Howard, Davis figures to be a Team USA regular for the next decade.

Rudy Gay -- age 25 -- Memphis Grizzlies: He would have been a big, long, athletic wing on a team full of them, Gay would mostly be injury insurance. His range and height make him a tough cover for the international competition but he probably would have done most of his work waiving towels.

Eric Gordon -- age 23 -- New Orleans Hornets (restricted free agent): Despite being in the middle of ongoing contract negotiations, Gordon impressed Krzyzewski by showing up on Friday and agreeing to compete in all 5-on-5 drills. A knockdown shooter with the abilty to create his own shot, Gordon hasn't seen much court time recently due to a knee injury that sidelined him for much of last season.


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Not everyone is afraid of Uncle Sam most of the guys on these European teams play in the NBA as well.The USA may win the team gold but it will not be a cakewalk!!!!
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dal4018 wrote:Not everyone is afraid of Uncle Sam most of the guys on these European teams play in the NBA as well.The USA may win the team gold but it will not be a cakewalk!!!!
In 08 the US went 5-0 in pool play outscoring opponents by 161 points (101-70 over China, 97-76 over Angola, 92-69 over Greece, 119-82 over Spain, 106-57 over Germany)

In bracket play we won 116-85 over Australia, 101-80 over Argentina, and 118-107 over Spain

In 8 games the US won by an average score of 106-78


Yeah, what do you mean by cakewalk? If the average game being 28 point wins isn't a cake walk I don't know what is.


The US easily dismissed the top 2 threats as well - Argentina and Spain - by an average score of 118-89


Those teams will have 2, maybe 3, NBA players....and if their lucky they might almost be an All-Star.

The US has All Stars as reserves that aren't even dressing
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Sorry, that team + Kzezckswskzki coaching=ass-pounding for the rest of the world. :coffee:
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Grizalltheway wrote:Sorry, that team + Kzezckswskzki coaching=ass-pounding for the rest of the world. :coffee:
Yep...when your "worst player" is Tyson Chandler, who is still one of the most dominant players in the league, you will likely sandusky everyone that plays you
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This is very similar to the team that won the World Championship a couple years ago. Only that team didn't have James or Kobe. That team had a 2 point win over Brazil in pool play, and the rest of the games were blowouts. Russians were the next closest, 10 points. Championship game was 17 over Turkey. There's always a chance for an upset, but the USA should dominate with this team.

DATE TIME OPPONENT SCORE ATTEND HIGH POINTS HIGH REBOUNDS
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8/28/10 7:00 p.m. vs Croatia W 106-78 (16)Gordon, Eric (10)Love, Kevin
8/29/10 4:30 p.m. vs Slovenia W 99-77 (22)Durant, Kevin (11)Love, Kevin
8/30/10 9:30 p.m. vs Brazil W 70-68 (27)Durant, Kevin (10)Durant, Kevin
9/1/10 vs Iran W 88-51 12500 (13)Love, Kevin (7)Chandler, Tyson
9/2/10 4:30 p.m. vs Tunisia W 92-57 12500 (21)Gordon, Eric (6)Igoudala, Andre
9/6/10 6:00 p.m. vs Angola W 121-66 15000 (19)Billups, Chauncy (8)Odom, Lamar
9/9/10 6:00 p.m. vs Russia W 89-79 15000 (33)Durant, Kevin (12)Odom, Lamar
9/11/10 7:00 p.m. vs Lithuania W 89-74 15000 (38)Durant, Kevin (10)Odom, Lamar
9/12/10 9:30 p.m. vs Turkey W 81-64 15000 (28)Durant, Kevin (11)Odom, Lamar
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clenz wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:Sorry, that team + Kzezckswskzki coaching=ass-pounding for the rest of the world. :coffee:
Yep...when your "worst player" is Tyson Chandler, who is still one of the most dominant players in the league, you will likely sandusky everyone that plays you
This...


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clenz wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:Sorry, that team + Kzezckswskzki coaching=ass-pounding for the rest of the world. :coffee:
Yep...when your "worst player" is Tyson Chandler, who is still one of the most dominant players in the league, you will likely sandusky everyone that plays you
I like what you did there making Sandusky a verb.
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Coach K thinks 2012 could be better than 2008.

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"I think it has the potential to be that if we learn to use our versatility. It's a more versatile team than 2008. Now does that translate into being better?" coach Mike Krzyzewski said Sunday. "Although we don't have the center, that team didn't have Durant or Westbrook. So it's a different team, and we'll see if it becomes better, but it can be. It could be."

"Well, we have some guys that can pick that up," LeBron James said. "I mean, D-Wade was our leading scorer, but we didn't have Kevin Durant on our team. We didn't have the activity of Tyson Chandler on our team as well and the athleticism at the point guard position."
Westbrook is an offensive upgrade over Jason Kidd, the point guard not back from 2008, and is seen by teammates as the player who could most easily fill Wade's role as the game-changer off the bench. As James sees it, Andre Iguodala is more athletic than Tayshaun Prince, and James Harden can do more things offensively than Michael Redd.

Prince and Redd, along with Carlos Boozer, were reserves on the 2008 team but were not retained. Kidd retired from international competition after winning two gold medals.

"If you match us up, we have so many great pieces that guys can just play to their strengths, and I think we can be better," James said.

Having Durant is a start. The NBA's three-time scoring champion had the best tournament ever by an American player at the world basketball championship two years ago, scoring 22.8 points per game. But the biggest difference could be James, who was already a great player in 2008 but has grown into the best in the world now.

Carmelo Anthony, Chris Paul and Deron Williams, the other young players from that team, have made similar leaps toward superstardom, and Kobe Bryant has held steady where he was.

"First of all, you have to look at the guys who are with us from the '08 team. They were 21, 22 years old back in Beijing. They're now in the prime of their careers, so they're a lot bigger, stronger, better basketball players today," USA Basketball chairman Jerry Colangelo said.

"Those players by themselves are much better and I look at the players we've added. We have much more depth, much more talent than we had in '08 when I look at this roster versus that roster, and I'm not looking to make comparisons, but when asked the question, I'll put this team up against anyone."

Center remains the biggest question mark. Chandler was the NBA's Defensive Player of the Year and has become more of a weapon offensively in recent years, but he's still not quite Howard. Kevin Love and Blake Griffin will have to show they can handle the move to center as well as Bosh did.
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clenz wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:Sorry, that team + Kzezckswskzki coaching=ass-pounding for the rest of the world. :coffee:
Yep...when your "worst player" is Tyson Chandler, who is still one of the most dominant players in the league, you will likely sandusky everyone that plays you
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SuperHornet wrote:
clenz wrote: Yep...when your "worst player" is Tyson Chandler, who is still one of the most dominant players in the league, you will likely sandusky everyone that plays you
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Can you say "token white guy"? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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It's racist that I'm more familiar with Earvin than some kid?
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AZGrizFan wrote:Can you say "token white guy"? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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He was still developing and played decent at the World's. Come on, give him some love :lol:
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We better crash the boards & do a lot of driving because we're weak in the post.
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AZGrizFan wrote:Can you say "token white guy"? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I was about to say the Nigerian team is likely whiter than the US team. :lol:
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AZGrizFan wrote:Can you say "token white guy"? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Kevin Love is fucking good. Might be the best power forward in the NBA.
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DJH wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Can you say "token white guy"? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Kevin Love is fucking good. Might be the best power forward in the NBA.
Ever heard of Blake Griffin? :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
DJH wrote:
Kevin Love is **** good. Might be the best power forward in the NBA.
Ever heard of Blake Griffin? :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
2 different players, both with great talent. Love has better shooting range, better rebounder. Griffin can excite the crowd, great leaper, better overall athletic ability but not there yet.
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Gil Dobie wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Ever heard of Blake Griffin? :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
2 different players, both with great talent. Love has better shooting range, better rebounder. Griffin can excite the crowd, great leaper, better overall athletic ability but not there yet.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah. Not there yet. :roll:
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Kevin Love >> Blake Griffin. Not even close. Better shooter, better rebounder, better scorer, better FT shooter, better defender.

Blake is a better dunker, that's it.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
2 different players, both with great talent. Love has better shooting range, better rebounder. Griffin can excite the crowd, great leaper, better overall athletic ability but not there yet.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah. Not there yet. :roll:
Not there yet as in the best power forward, it's close but not yet. You want a slam dunk or a blocked shot you take Griffin, want a free throw or shot outside 10 feet, then Love. Rebounds, still Love at this point. T-Wolves beat the Clippers 3 out of 4 this season. Wolves lost the 4th game when Love was out with injury.

Griffin 20 pts 10 rbs, 52% FT, 12% 3pt
Love 26 pts 13 rbs, 82% FT, 37% 3pt
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We got the gold! Mail it in! :nod:
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DJH wrote:Kevin Love >> Blake Griffin. Not even close. Better shooter, better rebounder, better scorer, better FT shooter, better defender.

Blake is a better dunker, that's it.
We are talking about the NBA here. Dunking is all that matters.
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DJH wrote:Kevin Love >> Blake Griffin. Not even close. Better shooter, better rebounder, better scorer, better FT shooter, better defender.

Blake is a better dunker, that's it.
Perhaps Love's numbers are better because he has absolutely NO help?

Nah...that can't be it.

And I'll give you the "range" argument, but Griffin's FG% is .54, while Love's is .45....

I wouldn't mind either one of them on the Suns.... :tothehand:
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