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2012 NL Rookie of the Year
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:18 am
by CAA Flagship
Bryce Harper had a huge lead, but he is now lagging by a wide margin statistically. Can his media mojo keep him in front of Todd Frazier (Reds)?
Frazier
AB 331
AVG .293
2B 21
3B 5
HR 18
RBI 60
Harper
AB 403
AVG .248
2B 18
3B 6
HR 12
RBI 37
Re: 2012 NL Rookie of the Year
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:23 am
by dbackjon
Neither should win it - the winner SHOULD be Arizona Rookie Wade Miley.
Miley is 5th in League in Wins and ERA. Far more deserving than either of your two candidates
Re: 2012 NL Rookie of the Year
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:33 am
by 89Hen
I've never quite understood the "rookie" designation for players. Miley started 7 games last year. As a pitcher, that's a LOT to be considered a "rookie" the following year.
Re: 2012 NL Rookie of the Year
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:45 am
by dbackjon
89Hen wrote:I've never quite understood the "rookie" designation for players. Miley started 7 games last year. As a pitcher, that's a LOT to be considered a "rookie" the following year.
Cut off is 50 innings pitched in prior year. Miley pitched 40.
Plus, he went to a FCS school (SE Louisiana)
Re: 2012 NL Rookie of the Year
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:15 pm
by AZGrizFan
89Hen wrote:I've never quite understood the "rookie" designation for players. Miley started 7 games last year. As a pitcher, that's a LOT to be considered a "rookie" the following year.
But as a hitter, you an have 129 at bats and still be considered a "rookie". So essentially the cuttoff is 1/5 of the "season" 1/5 of 35 is 7 starts, 1/5 of 650 AB's is 130 AB's....
Re: 2012 NL Rookie of the Year
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:12 pm
by Ivytalk
AZGrizFan wrote:89Hen wrote:I've never quite understood the "rookie" designation for players. Miley started 7 games last year. As a pitcher, that's a LOT to be considered a "rookie" the following year.
But as a hitter, you an have 129 at bats and still be considered a "rookie". So essentially the cuttoff is 1/5 of the "season" 1/5 of 35 is 7 starts, 1/5 of 650 AB's is 130 AB's....
No, 1/5 of 35 starts is 6.93 starts.
Re: 2012 NL Rookie of the Year
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:13 pm
by AZGrizFan
Ivytalk wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
But as a hitter, you an have 129 at bats and still be considered a "rookie". So essentially the cuttoff is 1/5 of the "season" 1/5 of 35 is 7 starts, 1/5 of 650 AB's is 130 AB's....
No, 1/5 of 35 starts is 6.93 starts.
My bad.
Re: 2012 NL Rookie of the Year
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:37 pm
by Seahawks08
It's going to be Frazier unless Harper goes on a tear.
Re: 2012 NL Rookie of the Year
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:44 pm
by dbackjon
Seahawks08 wrote:It's going to be Frazier unless Harper goes on a tear.
Not sure why. Frazier is no where near the league lead in ANY category. Miley is in the two biggest pitching categories.
Miley SHOULD win in a landslide. If he doesn't, the award has no meaning.
Re: 2012 NL Rookie of the Year
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:39 pm
by Seahawks08
The Reds wouldn't be leading their division without the help of Frazier. Everyone thought the Reds O was done after votto got injured. But we still have a month left. Let's see how everyone finishes first.
Re: 2012 NL Rookie of the Year
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:11 pm
by CAA Flagship
Seahawks08 wrote:The Reds wouldn't be leading their division without the help of Frazier. Everyone thought the Reds O was done after votto got injured. But we still have a month left. Let's see how everyone finishes first.
He spelled Rolen before Votto got hurt. It was Rolen's injury that got him playing time since he didn't make the club coming out of spring training.
Jon, I believe your argument is valid. Let's discuss this topic in the last week of September.