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Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:09 am
by dal4018
Packer great calls it quits after 14 yrs he is the leading WR In the history of this franchise.He was also a ex-Olympian.

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:05 am
by Gil Dobie
Thanks for the great career Donald :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:42 am
by dal4018
Gil Dobie wrote:Thanks for the great career Donald :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
Hope he gets HOF consideration down the road.

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:46 pm
by Gil Dobie
dal4018 wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:Thanks for the great career Donald :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
Hope he gets HOF consideration down the road.
That would be great and he has the stats.

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:56 pm
by dal4018
Gil Dobie wrote:
dal4018 wrote:Hope he gets HOF consideration down the road.
That would be great and he has the stats.
In terms of receptions(743),yards (10,737)yes.Touchdowns no he has only 61 career tds.Next to Steve McNair he is probably the most important player to leave Alcorn St.

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:40 pm
by clenz
Gil Dobie wrote:
dal4018 wrote:Hope he gets HOF consideration down the road.
That would be great and he has the stats.
I was shocked to see he averaged 50 receptions per year.....

If that is the standard Muhsin Muhammad should be in the hall

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:57 pm
by Gil Dobie
clenz wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote: That would be great and he has the stats.
I was shocked to see he averaged 50 receptions per year.....

If that is the standard Muhsin Muhammad should be in the hall
Pro Football Reference has Driver rated #38 all-time with #36 Drew Pearson, #37 Welker, #39 Charlie Joiner and #40 Tommy McDonald.

Muhammad only had 3 1000 yard season, Driver 7, same with 70+ catches in a season, Driver 7, Muhammad 3. I know you are a Vikings fan, and yes, Cris Carter should be a hall of famer and is much higher on the list than Driver. Driver had a Hall of Fame career considering who is in the Hall of Fame.

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:18 pm
by SuperHornet
I'll take Hutson over Driver. But that said, if Driver isn't in the HOF first time up, there will be something MAJORLY wrong with the system. Plus, the Packers are SCREWED if this retirement pans out. He's still pretty much the best they have, and still a major threat short, middle, and deep.

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:31 pm
by Seahawks08
He's still pretty much the best they have, and still a major threat short, middle, and deep.
Get back on the meds, pronto! :ohno:

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:22 am
by SuperHornet
I'd like to see YOU cover him, 08.

:ohno:

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:30 am
by ASUMountaineer
SuperHornet wrote:I'd like to see YOU cover him, 08.

:ohno:
I'm pretty sure he's not an NFL DB. Driver is not the best WR currently on the Packers team. If you believe that...of course you believe that. :lol:

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:47 am
by clenz
SuperHornet wrote:I'd like to see YOU cover him, 08.

:ohno:
That's not the point you fucking jackwagon.

The fact he had EIGHT catches this past season...EIGHT. That put him TENTH on the team in receptions behind such super stars as Tom Crabtree, Cedric Benson, Alex Green, and John Kuhn. When you finish behing your teams second TE, fullback, 2nd and 3rd string RB who played in 66% less games than you during the season you are clearly no longer the best threat on the team at anything. He had 8 catches and Rodgers completed 371 passes....

If you've watched a Packer game (at all) in the last 2.5 to 3 seasons you'd notice that Finley, Cobb, James Jones, and Jordy Nelson are all a head on Driver as options.


I also submit that Eric Martin of the NO Saints, Tony Hill of the Cowboys, Ernest Givins of the Oilers, Anthony Miller of the Chargers/Broncos, Eddie Kinnison, Laveranues Coles, and Terry Glenn are all H.O.F. worthy as well....They all have very very catch, yardage, and td outputs per game as Driver....


Driver was a very very good WR, that may deserve the hall......it's too close to his career to really gauge it. It's the hall of fame though, not the hall of very good and dancing with the stars

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:50 am
by dal4018
SuperHornet wrote:I'll take Hutson over Driver. But that said, if Driver isn't in the HOF first time up, there will be something MAJORLY wrong with the system. Plus, the Packers are SCREWED if this retirement pans out. He's still pretty much the best they have, and still a major threat short, middle, and deep.
In terms of td's yes but catches and yds sorry must go with Driver.

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:09 am
by ASUMountaineer
clenz wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:I'd like to see YOU cover him, 08.

:ohno:
That's not the point you **** jackwagon.

The fact he had EIGHT catches this past season...EIGHT. That put him TENTH on the team in receptions behind such super stars as Tom Crabtree, Cedric Benson, Alex Green, and John Kuhn. When you finish behing your teams second TE, fullback, 2nd and 3rd string RB who played in 66% less games than you during the season you are clearly no longer the best threat on the team at anything. He had 8 catches and Rodgers completed 371 passes....

If you've watched a Packer game (at all) in the last 2.5 to 3 seasons you'd notice that Finley, Cobb, James Jones, and Jordy Nelson are all a head on Driver as options.


I also submit that Eric Martin of the NO Saints, Tony Hill of the Cowboys, Ernest Givins of the Oilers, Anthony Miller of the Chargers/Broncos, Eddie Kinnison, Laveranues Coles, and Terry Glenn are all H.O.F. worthy as well....They all have very very catch, yardage, and td outputs per game as Driver....


Driver was a very very good WR, that may deserve the hall......it's too close to his career to really gauge it. It's the hall of fame though, not the hall of very good and dancing with the stars
Clenz...no Greg Jennings?!?

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:08 am
by Gil Dobie
dal4018 wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:I'll take Hutson over Driver. But that said, if Driver isn't in the HOF first time up, there will be something MAJORLY wrong with the system. Plus, the Packers are SCREWED if this retirement pans out. He's still pretty much the best they have, and still a major threat short, middle, and deep.
In terms of td's yes but catches and yds sorry must go with Driver.
Don Hutson was on many all-century teams and played half the number of games that Driver did, due to a 10, 11 and 12 game schedule in his day.

From the SI all-century team
The only player on my squad that I never saw play in the flesh was Don Hutson. So I spent two days in the Packers' film room. I'd never forgotten a story told to me by a Green Bay fan who swore he saw Hutson snatch a ball with one hand -- with the palm turned down. I never saw that play in the films, but what I did see was remarkable enough to make sure he got on this team. Hutson had speed and the same hunger for the long ball that Lance Alworth, my other deep receiver, had, plus the precision timing of my possession wideout, Raymond Berry, plus the toughness of my all-around performer, Jerry Rice. Dave Casper was a converted tackle who blocked like one. No tight end fought off as much traffic to catch the ball.

WIDE RECEIVER
Deep: Lance Alworth (Chargers, Cowboys) 1962-72
Deep: Don Hutson (Packers) 1935-45
Possession: Raymond Berry (Colts) 1955-67
All-around: Jerry Rice (49ers) 1985-present

TIGHT END
Dave Casper (Raiders, Oilers, Vikings) 1974-84

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:33 am
by dal4018
Gil Dobie wrote:
dal4018 wrote:In terms of td's yes but catches and yds sorry must go with Driver.
Don Hutson was on many all-century teams and played half the number of games that Driver did, due to a 10, 11 and 12 game schedule in his day.

From the SI all-century team
The only player on my squad that I never saw play in the flesh was Don Hutson. So I spent two days in the Packers' film room. I'd never forgotten a story told to me by a Green Bay fan who swore he saw Hutson snatch a ball with one hand -- with the palm turned down. I never saw that play in the films, but what I did see was remarkable enough to make sure he got on this team. Hutson had speed and the same hunger for the long ball that Lance Alworth, my other deep receiver, had, plus the precision timing of my possession wideout, Raymond Berry, plus the toughness of my all-around performer, Jerry Rice. Dave Casper was a converted tackle who blocked like one. No tight end fought off as much traffic to catch the ball.

WIDE RECEIVER
Deep: Lance Alworth (Chargers, Cowboys) 1962-72
Deep: Don Hutson (Packers) 1935-45
Possession: Raymond Berry (Colts) 1955-67
All-around: Jerry Rice (49ers) 1985-present

TIGHT END
Dave Casper (Raiders, Oilers, Vikings) 1974-84
Yes I know about the exploits of the man known in athletic circles as the Alabama Antelope and his accomplishments and influence on today's game.But still can't deny what Driver did in his career.

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:22 pm
by rkwittem
Sorry guys, no DD in the Hall. He'll get in GB's own HoF, but he better not be in Canton. Heck, there are a lot of players in the Hall who shouldn't be there. I wish HoF's were more selective than they are. For me, the question is simple- can I tell the story of the NFL with or without you? If the answers is 'without you' then don't hold your breath.

I'm not a stats or personality guy. The following is the list of current WR's in the Hall.

Lance Alworth, Bobby Mitchell, Paul Warfield, Charley Taylor, Fred Biletnikoff, Steve Largent, Charlie Joiner, Lynn Swann, John Stallworth, Tommy McDonald, James Lofton, Michael Irvin, Art Monk, Jerry Rice, and now Cris Carter, Bob Hayes, Don Maynard, Raymond Berry, Don Hutson, among others (Elroy Hirsch). Donald Driver is nowhere close to the level of those guys as a player. I don't care what the numbers are, he played in a much softer NFL than all of those guys ever did. Props to DD on a fine career, but no Canton trip for you.

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:57 am
by Gil Dobie
Really the first time I have heard anyone question Donald Driver's toughness. :lol:
Driver was a blue collar player, not afraid to go over the middle and get nailed by linebackers. The league may be soft and heading towards NFL flag football, but Driver was anything but soft.

Drivers Career at a glance from the Milwaukee Sentinel Journal
Donald Driver holds several franchise records with the Green Bay Packers:

743 Receptions.
10,137 Receiving yards.
7 1,000-yard seasons (a record six of them consecutive from 2004-'09).
9 50-catch seasons (a consecutive record from 2002-'10).
1 33 Consecutive games with a reception.
363 Receptions at Lambeau Field.
5,000 Receiving yards at Lambeau Field.

FOR THE RECORD

Here's how Driver stacks up in the Packers record book:

MOST CAREER RECEPTIONS

743 Donald Driver, 1999-2012
595 Sterling Sharpe, 1988-'94
530 James Lofton, 1978-'86
488 Don Hutson, 1935-'45
448 Boyd Dowler, 1959-'69

MOST SEASONS WITH 50 OR MORE RECEPTIONS

9 Donald Driver, 2002-'10
7 James Lofton, 1979-81, 1983-'86
Sterling Sharpe, 1988-'94
6 Antonio Freeman, 1996-2001
5 Greg Jennings, 2007-'11

MOST CONSECUTIVE GAMES WITH A RECEPTION

133 Donald Driver, Gm. 16, 2001 - Gm. 6, 2010
103 Sterling Sharpe, Gm. 10, 1988 - Gm. 16, 1994
60 Edgar Bennett, Gm. 1, 1993 - Gm. 12, 1996 (RB)
58 James Lofton, Gm. 8, 1979 - Gm. 8, 1983
50 Don Hutson, Gm. 3, 1941 - Gm. 10, 1945
Paul Coffman, Gm. 3, 1979 - Gm. 4, 1982 (TE)

MOST CAREER YARDS RECEIVING

10,137 Donald Driver, 1999-2012
9,656 James Lofton, 1978-'86
8,134 Sterling Sharpe, 1988-'94
7,991 Don Hutson, 1935-'45
6,918 Boyd Dowler, 1959-'69

MOST SEASONS OF 1,000 OR MORE YARDS RECEIVING

7 Donald Driver, 2002, 2004-'09
5 James Lofton, 1980-81, 1983-'85
Sterling Sharpe, 1989-'90, 1992-'94
3 Antonio Freeman, 1997-'99
Greg Jennings, 2008-'10

MOST CAREER TOUCHDOWN RECEPTIONS

99 Don Hutson, 1935-'45
65 Sterling Sharpe, 1988-'94
61 Donald Driver, 1999-2012
57 Antonio Freeman, 1995-2001, 2003
53 Greg Jennings, 2006-'12

MOST CAREER YARDS FROM SCRIMMAGE

11,048 Ahman Green (8,322 rush, 2,726 rec.)
10,354 Donald Driver (217 rush, 10,137 rec.)
9,901 James Lofton (245 rush, 9,656 rec.)
9,712 Jim Taylor (8,207 rush, 1,505 rec.)
8,275 Don Hutson (284 rush, 7,991 rec.)

MOST SEASONS, ACTIVE PLAYER

16 Bart Starr, 1956-'71
16 Brett Favre, 1992-2007
15 Ray Nitschke, 1958-'72
14 Forrest Gregg, 1956-, 1958-'70
14 Donald Driver, 1999-2012

MOST GAMES PLAYED

255 Brett Favre, 1992-2007
205 Donald Driver, 1999-2012
196 Bart Starr, 1956-'71
190 Ray Nitschke, 1958-'72
188 William Henderson, 1995-2006

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:51 am
by dal4018
Ppl don't know this but Driver almost qualified for the Olympics in '96 as a Decathlete.His 40 time was in the 4.37/ 4.42 range.

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:17 pm
by dal4018
Gil Dobie wrote:Thanks for the great career Donald :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
Gil do you know about his personal life before football???

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:56 am
by Gil Dobie
dal4018 wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:Thanks for the great career Donald :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
Gil do you know about his personal life before football???
Yes,he had a tough life living in a UHaul, surviving on the streets.

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:57 am
by Gil Dobie
dal4018 wrote:Ppl don't know this but Driver almost qualified for the Olympics in '96 as a Decathlete.His 40 time was in the 4.37/ 4.42 range.
7'6" high jump isn't too bad either.

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:57 pm
by dal4018
Gil Dobie wrote:
dal4018 wrote:Ppl don't know this but Driver almost qualified for the Olympics in '96 as a Decathlete.His 40 time was in the 4.37/ 4.42 range.
7'6" high jump isn't too bad either.
Yeah I think that is the school mark.

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:59 pm
by dal4018
Gil Dobie wrote:
dal4018 wrote:Gil do you know about his personal life before football???
Yes,he had a tough life living in a UHaul, surviving on the streets.
He was saved from a life of crime when a elderly lady saved him from the cops.He uses to break into cars to go joyriding.Saw this on NFL Live (ESPN).

Re: Donald Driver retirement!!!

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:29 am
by Gil Dobie
dal4018 wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
Yes,he had a tough life living in a UHaul, surviving on the streets.
He was saved from a life of crime when a elderly lady saved him from the cops.He uses to break into cars to go joyriding.Saw this on NFL Live (ESPN).
That's what I call a tough life :nod: