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Broncos-Tide Odds
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:34 pm
by SuperHornet
I'm not sure I agree with this. Sure, Denver in their current configuration would beat any college team big time. But I'm not sure that translates to 40+ points on Alabama. The idea for this article started off from the current -28 Denver is getting for their upcoming tilt with Jacksonville. One idea was to use the hypothetical spread in comparison to the actual Jax spread to gauge if the consensus best I-A team in the land could beat the consensus worst NFL team. While I agree that Denver would wipe the field against 'Bama, I'm not so sure that's the case if you swap the Horsies out for Jax....
The article did get something wrong. The oddsmaker they quoted said that an NFL team has never played a college team. Well, that's true if one is speaking of an organic team. But the NFL champions (even a bit into the Super Bowl era) played an annual game against a team of college all-stars, and the NFL champs didn't even win all the time (most of the time, to be sure, but decidedly NOT all the time).
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutd ... --nfl.html
Re: Broncos-Tide Odds
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:45 pm
by uofmman1122
Really?
The Jaguars would roll Alabama by 50 points.
This discussion is stupid.
Re: Broncos-Tide Odds
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:58 pm
by clenz
No CFB team would beat an NFL team...ever.
Denver would roll Bama by 40-50 EASY.
Bama may have 4 or 5 first rounders on their team. Denver probably has 4 or 5 on their defense, with some probably not seeing the field.
Monte Ball, one of the most efficient/prolific RB's in NCAA history, barely sees the Field in Denver.
Re: Broncos-Tide Odds
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:40 pm
by JayJ79
SuperHornet wrote: The article did get something wrong. The oddsmaker they quoted said that an NFL team has never played a college team. Well, that's true if one is speaking of an organic team. But the NFL champions (even a bit into the Super Bowl era) played an annual game against a team of college all-stars, and the NFL champs didn't even win all the time (most of the time, to be sure, but decidedly NOT all the time).
Pro football back then was a completely different animal than today's NFL.
college football back then was completely different than today's college teams too.
but in any case, such a comparison is rather pointless.
Re: Broncos-Tide Odds
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:45 pm
by SuperHornet
clenz wrote:No CFB team would beat an NFL team...ever.
Denver would roll Bama by 40-50 EASY.
Bama may have 4 or 5 first rounders on their team. Denver probably has 4 or 5 on their defense, with some probably not seeing the field.
Monte Ball, one of the most efficient/prolific RB's in NCAA history, barely sees the Field in Denver.
It's already happened, clenz. Look back at the history of the now-defunct College All-Star Game....
Re: Broncos-Tide Odds
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:47 pm
by SuperHornet
uofmman1122 wrote:Really?
The Jaguars would roll Alabama by 50 points.
This discussion is stupid.
Are you prepared to declare the oddsmakers "stupid?"
They put Denver up by 40.5...but Denver only gives up 28 to Jax. That only leaves Jax a two-TD swing. And without a decent QB, I don't think they even get THAT edge.
I'll give Denver a 24-34 pt advantage, strictly on the arm of one Peyton Manning. But not 40....
Re: Broncos-Tide Odds
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:37 pm
by uofmman1122
SuperHornet wrote:uofmman1122 wrote:Really?
The Jaguars would roll Alabama by 50 points.
This discussion is stupid.
Are you prepared to declare the oddsmakers "stupid?"
They put Denver up by 40.5...but Denver only gives up 28 to Jax. That only leaves Jax a two-TD swing. And without a decent QB, I don't think they even get THAT edge.
I'll give Denver a 24-34 pt advantage, strictly on the arm of one Peyton Manning. But not 40....
Alabama
NOW has maybe 3-4 players that
maybe could
possibly be NFL starters, and that's on the most generous side I could think of.
The average Jaguar player is better than the best 'Bama player.
I won't even give you coaching, since Saban proved he can't coach in the NFL. It's a totally different beast.
I'd bet the oddsmakers had Montana as 2 TD favorites last weekend over NAU, too. Doesn't mean they're right.
On the worst day for Jacksonville, 'Bama might keep it within 4 TDs. You're really fucking stupid or naive to believe otherwise.
Re: Broncos-Tide Odds
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:53 pm
by SDHornet
Surprised this thread saw as much action as it did. I'm not surprised that clenz was a part of it.
Re: Broncos-Tide Odds
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:13 pm
by rkwittem
uofmman1122 wrote:The average Jaguar player is better than the best 'Bama player.
This I don't believe. Cyrus Kouandijo is a projected top-5 pick as a LT. The average Jaguar is probably somebody who shouldn't be a NFL starter. Depends on who the guy is. I can't think of any "average" Jaguars since they're all pretty average, IMO.
Generally, I agree that Jax would whack the Tide....easily. And with or without Tebow.
Re: Broncos-Tide Odds
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:27 pm
by grizzaholic
rkwittem wrote:uofmman1122 wrote:The average Jaguar player is better than the best 'Bama player.
This I don't believe. Cyrus Kouandijo is a projected top-5 pick as a LT. The average Jaguar is probably somebody who shouldn't be a NFL starter. Depends on who the guy is. I can't think of any "average" Jaguars since they're all pretty average, IMO.
Generally, I agree that Jax would whack the Tide....easily. And with or without Tebow.
Don't you dare talk down to the kneeling JESUS. He could single handedly beat a team comprised of Peyton Manning throwing to an offense comprised of Ditkas, and a defensive line of SUH's with Ditkas filling in elsewhere.
TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW
Re: Broncos-Tide Odds
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:39 am
by andy7171
The 0-16 Lions of a couple years ago would roll the Tide! This thread is more than idiotic.

Re: Broncos-Tide Odds
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:45 am
by Ibanez
What a stupid thread. Next you'll be suggesting that Tebow could beat any team is he played every position.
Re: Broncos-Tide Odds
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:41 am
by rkwittem
Why are dal and SH allowed to start threads?
Re: Broncos-Tide Odds
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:42 am
by grizzaholic
rkwittem wrote:Why are dal and SH allowed to start threads?
Because it is awesome!
Re: Broncos-Tide Odds
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:16 pm
by CAA Flagship
Ibanez wrote:What a stupid thread. Next you'll be suggesting that Tebow could beat any team is he played every position.
Wait.
Let's think about that for a minute.
Nevermind. That's just poopy talk.

Re: Broncos-Tide Odds
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:10 pm
by SuperHornet
Ibanez wrote:What a stupid thread. Next you'll be suggesting that Tebow could beat any team is he played every position.
