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How do you think this plays out?

A-Rod will stroke the MLB, IMO.

I bet he doesn't even get a single game suspension.

danefan wrote:I bet he doesn't even get a single game suspension.

I hope so!

Wins his suit against the Yankees, plays and gets paid another $120 Million by the Yankmes

dbackjon wrote:

danefan wrote:I bet he doesn't even get a single game suspension.

I hope so!

Wins his suit against the Yankees, plays and gets paid another $120 Million by the Yankmes

Why are you sticking up for a cheater?

Grizalltheway wrote:

dbackjon wrote:

I hope so!

Wins his suit against the Yankees, plays and gets paid another $120 Million by the Yankmes

Why are you sticking up for a cheater?

1) He's cute
2) No more a cheater than many
3) Because he is going after the MLB/Selig hypocrisy on PED's

Cure?

andy7171 wrote:Cure?

No idea what you are talking about

Selig will go down as the WORST commissioner that MLB has ever had

Should be banned for life along with all the other roid users, and their stats should be removed from the books.

Gil Dobie wrote:Should be banned for life along with all the other roid users, and their stats should be removed from the books.

So that would leave, what 5 players?

What about all the amphetimine users in the 50's, 60's etc. Boot their asses too

Ty Cobb - racist prick - GONE.

Babe Ruth - womanizing drunk - gone.

dbackjon wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:Should be banned for life along with all the other roid users, and their stats should be removed from the books.

So that would leave, what 5 players?

What about all the amphetimine users in the 50's, 60's etc. Boot their asses too

Ty Cobb - racist prick - GONE.

Babe Ruth - womanizing drunk - gone.

Haven't you learned yet? IF you are good at sports, an actor, or someone famous, you will always be forgiven...if you are a common joe you will be egged, jailed, and sued.

dbackjon wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:Should be banned for life along with all the other roid users, and their stats should be removed from the books.

So that would leave, what 5 players?

What about all the amphetimine users in the 50's, 60's etc. Boot their asses too

Ty Cobb - racist prick - GONE.

Babe Ruth - womanizing drunk - gone.

Yeah, racism and excessive drinking are the same as doping up to improve your game.

dbackjon wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:Should be banned for life along with all the other roid users, and their stats should be removed from the books.

So that would leave, what 5 players?

What about all the amphetimine users in the 50's, 60's etc. Boot their asses too

Ty Cobb - racist prick - GONE.

Babe Ruth - womanizing drunk - gone.

Most players from Ty Cobb's era were racist, as was commissioner Landis for failing to integrate baseball. Cap Anson was the biggest racist as he was partially responsible to keeping African American players out of baseball. That is a different topic though. Steriod users cheated. What happens in Vegas when you get caught cheating the house. You are gone.

Gil Dobie wrote:

dbackjon wrote:
So that would leave, what 5 players?

What about all the amphetimine users in the 50's, 60's etc. Boot their asses too

Ty Cobb - racist prick - GONE.

Babe Ruth - womanizing drunk - gone.

Most players from Ty Cobb's era were racist, as was commissioner Landis for failing to integrate baseball. Cap Anson was the biggest racist as he was partially responsible to keeping African American players out of baseball. That is a different topic though. Steriod users cheated. What happens in Vegas when you get caught cheating the house. You are gone.

Depends on your definition of "gone." The Commish got pissed that he didn't get his way in court during the Black Sox Scandal, so he banished guys who were acquitted of throwing the Series. But a later Commish reinstated two guys banned for life for having casino jobs. A still later Commish not only banished a guy for seeing a bookie, he got an ex post facto rule passed keeping him out of the HOF, despite the fact that he never would have made it for managing (what he was doing when he got caught) anyway. Three different outcomes to three incidents similar in that they at least touched gambling.

The insidious thing about dealing with steroids, though, is that because testing technology changes and what is seen as a PED changes over time, a guy can be using stuff that's legal at the time he starts using it, but if it's banned and/or test can detect it later, he's branded a cheat despite the fact that it was previously illegal. It's better to just not do anything other than food, weights, and conditioning so as to not even open the door to claims you cheated....

SuperHornet wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:
Most players from Ty Cobb's era were racist, as was commissioner Landis for failing to integrate baseball. Cap Anson was the biggest racist as he was partially responsible to keeping African American players out of baseball. That is a different topic though. Steriod users cheated. What happens in Vegas when you get caught cheating the house. You are gone.

Depends on your definition of "gone." The Commish got pissed that he didn't get his way in court during the Black Sox Scandal, so he banished guys who were acquitted of throwing the Series. But a later Commish reinstated two guys banned for life for having casino jobs. A still later Commish not only banished a guy for seeing a bookie, he got an ex post facto rule passed keeping him out of the HOF, despite the fact that he never would have made it for managing (what he was doing when he got caught) anyway. Three different outcomes to three incidents similar in that they at least touched gambling.

The insidious thing about dealing with steroids, though, is that because testing technology changes and what is seen as a PED changes over time, a guy can be using stuff that's legal at the time he starts using it, but if it's banned and/or test can detect it later, he's branded a cheat despite the fact that it was previously illegal. It's better to just not do anything other than food, weights, and conditioning so as to not even open the door to claims you cheated....

Bleacher Link Link

In 1990, Congress cracked down on anabolic steroids with the Anabolic Steroids Control Act, which effectively made them an illegal drug. The next year in 1991, MLB Commissioner Fay Vincent made it clear in a memo that this was very much relevant to baseball.

Via ESPN.com:

The possession, sale or use of any illegal drug or controlled substance by Major League players and personnel is strictly prohibited. Major League players or personnel involved in the possession, sale or use of any illegal drug or controlled substance are subject to discipline by the Commissioner and risk permanent expulsion from the game…

This prohibition applies to all illegal drugs and controlled substances, including steroids or prescription drugs for which the individual in possession of the drug does not have a prescription.

SuperHornet wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:
Most players from Ty Cobb's era were racist, as was commissioner Landis for failing to integrate baseball. Cap Anson was the biggest racist as he was partially responsible to keeping African American players out of baseball. That is a different topic though. Steriod users cheated. What happens in Vegas when you get caught cheating the house. You are gone.

Depends on your definition of "gone." The Commish got pissed that he didn't get his way in court during the Black Sox Scandal, so he banished guys who were acquitted of throwing the Series. But a later Commish reinstated two guys banned for life for having casino jobs. A still later Commish not only banished a guy for seeing a bookie, he got an ex post facto rule passed keeping him out of the HOF, despite the fact that he never would have made it for managing (what he was doing when he got caught) anyway. Three different outcomes to three incidents similar in that they at least touched gambling.

The insidious thing about dealing with steroids, though, is that because testing technology changes and what is seen as a PED changes over time, a guy can be using stuff that's legal at the time he starts using it, but if it's banned and/or test can detect it later, he's branded a cheat despite the fact that it was previously illegal. It's better to just not do anything other than food, weights, and conditioning so as to not even open the door to claims you cheated....

Cheaters like Pete Rose and A-Rod desecrate the integrity of the game.

Spoiler: show

I know...Rose just gambled.

Mark: If that's true re Rose, then why are others who got mixed up with casinos re-instated? I think it goes a bit deeper than that amid the secrecy that is the Office of the Commish....

Gil: That leaves the door wide open because what gets classified as a "controlled substance" changes over time.