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Baseball Contract Insanity

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:07 pm
by AZGrizFan
Homer Bailey has agreed to a six-year, $105 million contract with the Cincinnati Reds, a source tells ESPN's Jim Bowden.

According to the source, Bailey's agreement includes a mutual option for a seventh year. The right-hander, who was 11-12 with a 3.49 ERA last season, has an arbitration hearing scheduled for Thursday. Bailey asked for $11.6 million while the Reds have offered $8.7 million. Bailey avoided arbitration last season with a one-year, $5.35 million deal.

The Cleveland Plain Dealer reported Sunday night that Bailey was nearing a six-year, $100 million contract with the Reds.

The 27-year-old Bailey is 49-45 in his career with a 4.25 ERA. He set career bests in innings pitched (209) and strikeouts (199) last season. He also threw his second no-hitter in two seasons.
So, it's bad enough that a career .500 pitcher with an ERA over 4.00 could get a $100+ Million deal. What I REALLY don't understand is this: Why give him a SIX year deal averaging over $17 mil PER YEAR, when he was only asking for $11.6 mil in arbitration?

Re: Baseball Contract Insanity

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:41 pm
by Chizzang
AZGrizFan wrote:
Homer Bailey has agreed to a six-year, $105 million contract with the Cincinnati Reds, a source tells ESPN's Jim Bowden.

According to the source, Bailey's agreement includes a mutual option for a seventh year. The right-hander, who was 11-12 with a 3.49 ERA last season, has an arbitration hearing scheduled for Thursday. Bailey asked for $11.6 million while the Reds have offered $8.7 million. Bailey avoided arbitration last season with a one-year, $5.35 million deal.

The Cleveland Plain Dealer reported Sunday night that Bailey was nearing a six-year, $100 million contract with the Reds.

The 27-year-old Bailey is 49-45 in his career with a 4.25 ERA. He set career bests in innings pitched (209) and strikeouts (199) last season. He also threw his second no-hitter in two seasons.
So, it's bad enough that a career .500 pitcher with an ERA over 4.00 could get a $100+ Million deal. What I REALLY don't understand is this: Why give him a SIX year deal averaging over $17 mil PER YEAR, when he was only asking for $11.6 mil in arbitration?
How does Jacoby Ellsbury go from $9 Mil a year to $21 mil
he's a career .297 hitter - which is great - but he's played 700 games in 7 seasons
and simple math tells me that's 100 games a year for $21 Mil

:tothehand: too much !!!

Re: Baseball Contract Insanity

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:21 pm
by LeadBolt
AZGrizFan wrote:
Homer Bailey has agreed to a six-year, $105 million contract with the Cincinnati Reds, a source tells ESPN's Jim Bowden.

According to the source, Bailey's agreement includes a mutual option for a seventh year. The right-hander, who was 11-12 with a 3.49 ERA last season, has an arbitration hearing scheduled for Thursday. Bailey asked for $11.6 million while the Reds have offered $8.7 million. Bailey avoided arbitration last season with a one-year, $5.35 million deal.

The Cleveland Plain Dealer reported Sunday night that Bailey was nearing a six-year, $100 million contract with the Reds.

The 27-year-old Bailey is 49-45 in his career with a 4.25 ERA. He set career bests in innings pitched (209) and strikeouts (199) last season. He also threw his second no-hitter in two seasons.
So, it's bad enough that a career .500 pitcher with an ERA over 4.00 could get a $100+ Million deal. What I REALLY don't understand is this: Why give him a SIX year deal averaging over $17 mil PER YEAR, when he was only asking for $11.6 mil in arbitration?
Some one in the front office needs a remedial math course? The Reds are afraid of 500 pitchers with 4+ ERA's getting away? They have a trade on the works to get rid of this guy and bring in someone they really need? :ohno:

Re: Baseball Contract Insanity

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:54 pm
by Chizzang
The Free Market has been good to Baseball Players...
As they like to point out - if the money wasn't there - the owners wouldn't pay those salaries

It's like when I complain about some CEO getting a 20 million dollar bonus running a company that lost money
It's a complete head scratcher

Re: Baseball Contract Insanity

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:00 pm
by Seahawks08
The Free Market has been good to Baseball Players...
As they like to point out - if the money wasn't there - the owners wouldn't pay those salaries
That's true enough, but there are simply some deals that are horrible. This is one of them. Bailey does not have a good track record save for one year, and he will be making $19M in 2017, 21M in 2018, and 23M in 2019. First, Votto, now this. :ohno:

Re: Baseball Contract Insanity

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:53 am
by Ivytalk
The latest Phillies example is Kyle Kendrick, a career mediocrity who just signed a one-year deal for $7.6 million to "avoid arbitration." 2013 stats: 10-13, 4.70 ERA. :dunce: :thumbdown: :ohno:

Re: Baseball Contract Insanity

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:08 am
by andy7171
Just wait for Trout to get his next contract. It ain't slowing down anytime soon.

Re: Baseball Contract Insanity

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:11 am
by ASUG8
I've been to one company sponsored game at Wrigley a few years back and I haven't been to any game above single A since I was a kid and i obviously wasn't paying for them then either. I had heard it's pretty expensive for a family to go to a single game, so I looked it up. This really isn't something the average Joe can do 5-6 times a month during the season:
The Fan Cost Index comprises the prices of four adult average-price tickets, two small draft beers, four small soft drinks, four regular-size hot dogs, parking for one car, two game programs and two least expensive, adult-size adjustable caps. Costs were determined by telephone calls with representatives of the teams, venues and concessionaires. Identical questions were asked in all interviews.
http://www.kshb.com/sports/baseball/mlb ... ball-teams" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

But it looks like attendance has remained pretty constant historically across the board:

http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/2010 ... ndance.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Personally, I'd rather go to our local park a half mile from my house, pay $5 to park, get a couple of $8 tickets and a few $4 beers and not feel bad when I get bored in the 6th inning and go to a bar across the street. :nod:

Re: Baseball Contract Insanity

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:08 pm
by Baldy
The Braves could teach all of MLB how to manage a team.
Just this off season they signed the entire core of their young players to long term extensions.
Freddie Freeman
Craig Kimbrell
Juilo Teheran
Jason Heyward
Andrelton Simmons

Sorry, NL East. ;)

Re: Baseball Contract Insanity

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:11 pm
by ASUG8
Baldy wrote:The Braves could teach all of MLB how to manage a team.
Just this off season they signed the entire core of their young players to long term extensions.
Freddie Freeman
Craig Kimbrell
Juilo Teheran
Jason Heyward
Andrelton Simmons

Sorry, NL East. ;)
....and are saying buh-bye to Turner field to get out of the hood and move to Gwinnett.