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Lost their trademark today hitting the team & the NFL squarely in the wallet. That doesn't necessarily dictate change but may go a long way to forcing Snyder to come up with a new name.

Great decision. Now anyone can sell Redskin stuff

Technically the Redskins can appeal & retain trademark until appeal process is ruled on.

Washington Crack Smoking Mayors?

Washington Gang Ties? (DeSean Jackson's favorite)

Washington Deficits? (Snyder's direct shot back at the government)

Washington Gridlock?

Washington Partisanship?

dbackjon wrote:Great decision. Now anyone can sell Redskin stuff

bluehenbillk wrote:Technically the Redskins can appeal & retain trademark until appeal process is ruled on.

Washington Crack Smoking Mayors?

Washington Gang Ties? (DeSean Jackson's favorite)

Washington Deficits? (Snyder's direct shot back at the government)

Washington Gridlock?

Washington Partisanship?

So, the Patent Office can cancel anything it deems Offensive? Thanks Obama.

Ibanez wrote:So, the Patent Office can cancel anything it deems Offensive? Thanks Obama.

1946 law that prohibits the trademarks of logos that disparage a group.

Sponsored by Fritz Lanham of Texas and signed by Harry S. Truman.

Skjellyfetti wrote:

Ibanez wrote:So, the Patent Office can cancel anything it deems Offensive? Thanks Obama.

1946 law that prohibits the trademarks of logos that disparage a group.

Sponsored by Fritz Lanham of Texas and signed by Harry S. Truman.

It took them 68 years to determine it was disparaging? That's efficient government for ya!

Think I read that the USPTO ruled the same way in the 1990s but it was overturned by an appeals court. The team will obviously appeal the ruling.

DSUrocks07 wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:
1946 law that prohibits the trademarks of logos that disparage a group.

Sponsored by Fritz Lanham of Texas and signed by Harry S. Truman.

It took them 68 years to determine it was disparaging? That's efficient government for ya!

How "convenient."

Ibanez wrote:So, the Patent Office can cancel anything it deems Offensive? Thanks Obama.

Always could. It is in the law. Written before any of us other than Grizo was born.

dbackjon wrote:

Ibanez wrote:So, the Patent Office can cancel anything it deems Offensive? Thanks Obama.

Always could. It is in the law. Written before any of us other than Grizo was born.

I've been on CS.com for a long time, and have read/seen about every type of racism there is.

The only racism that was missing was the racism aimed at old people. Racism wise, I think I've now read/seen it all!

Thanks, jon...you complete me!

New Logo:

dbackjon wrote:Great decision. Now anyone can sell Redskin stuff

How progressive of you. They paid for a trademark so they could sell stuff, but now it's given to "the people".

Nevermind that it's still regarded as offensive.

LeadBolt wrote:New Logo:

Now THIS logo is truly offensive (albeit quite humorous) and is so to a much higher percentage of the population than the current one. With this I might have to become a Cowboy fan.

TheDancinMonarch wrote:

LeadBolt wrote:New Logo:

Now THIS logo is truly offensive (albeit quite humorous) and is so to a much higher percentage of the population than the current one. With this I might have to become a Cowboy fan.

I agree with you that this logo can be seen as both humorous and offensive. I hope those who take offense are not taking offense by picking out a portion of the President's heritage and identifying with that portion of his heritage, but rather those who pattern his actions of thin-skinned behavior, which we have not seen to this degree in any US President since Richard Nixon.

dbackjon wrote:

Ibanez wrote:So, the Patent Office can cancel anything it deems Offensive? Thanks Obama.

Always could. It is in the law. Written before any of us other than Grizo was born.

You don't understand sarcasm, do you?

andy7171 wrote:

See, here's my gripe with this whole "Oklahoma" thing. Oklahoma was a name that was given to the territory by the Choctaw Indians who lived there, not by a bunch of white dudes sitting in D.C. or some state house. This is a name that Native Americans chose, not us.

This is about all I'm going to say on this subject. The meaning of words change throughout history. Take the word "Faggot." In the 1300's up until the early 1900's, it was a word that referenced a bundle of sticks, an old woman, or cigarettes. Clearly, the meaning of that word has changed and is not OK to use. The name Redskin does have an offensive connotation starting in either the late 1700's or 1800's, no matter how it was originally derived. However, it is a name that is and has been used as a self identifier by Native Americans and in polling results through the end of the last century up to now, 70% don't find it offensive. But that begs the question, what percentage do you need to offend? Is is OK to offend 30%? Is it OK for the majority to offend the minority population/opinion?

This Logo:

Was created by a Native American. He created it in collaboration with the Redskins because he wanted to bring pride to Native Americans and the team. The old logo was just an "R" with feathers. There should be no problem with this logo.

If the name is offensive, change it to something that would bring pride. If "Redskins" doesn't do that, find something else that will. Check Florida St Seminoles.

There was never any doubt where the Seminole Tribe of Florida stood on Florida State University's nickname. The tribe helped university boosters create the costume for the Chief Osceola mascot, approving the face paint, flaming spear and Appaloosa horse that have no connection to Seminole history.

....

"The N.C.A.A. executive committee continues to believe the stereotyping of Native Americans is wrong," Bernard Franklin, the association's senior vice president for governance and membership, said in a statement. "However, in its review of the particular circumstances regarding Florida State, the staff review committee noted the unique relationship between the university and the Seminole Tribe of Florida as a significant factor."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/24/sport ... d=all&_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This isn't something for you and I to discuss or figure out. It's not up to us. If Dan Snyder is really out there performing outreach to the tribes of America, he should consult them about the name and no one else. If they don't like it, change it. Period.


#EaglesFan

andy7171 wrote:

You have to take anything Andy posts on this topic with a grain of salt. He's a dyed in the wool racist.

JMU DJ wrote:

andy7171 wrote:

See, here's my gripe with this whole "Oklahoma" thing. Oklahoma was a name that was given to the territory by the Choctaw Indians who lived there, not by a bunch of white dudes sitting in D.C. or some state house. This is a name that Native Americans chose, not us.

This is about all I'm going to say on this subject. The meaning of words change throughout history. Take the word "Faggot." In the 1300's up until the early 1900's, it was a word that referenced a bundle of sticks, an old woman, or cigarettes. Clearly, the meaning of that word has changed and is not OK to use. The name Redskin does have an offensive connotation starting in either the late 1700's or 1800's, no matter how it was originally derived. However, it is a name that is and has been used as a self identifier by Native Americans and in polling results through the end of the last century up to now, 70% don't find it offensive. But that begs the question, what percentage do you need to offend? Is is OK to offend 30%? Is it OK for the majority to offend the minority population/opinion?

This Logo:

Was created by a Native American. He created it in collaboration with the Redskins because he wanted to bring pride to Native Americans and the team. The old logo was just an "R" with feathers. There should be no problem with this logo.

If the name is offensive, change it to something that would bring pride. If "Redskins" doesn't do that, find something else that will. Check Florida St Seminoles.

There was never any doubt where the Seminole Tribe of Florida stood on Florida State University's nickname. The tribe helped university boosters create the costume for the Chief Osceola mascot, approving the face paint, flaming spear and Appaloosa horse that have no connection to Seminole history.

....

"The N.C.A.A. executive committee continues to believe the stereotyping of Native Americans is wrong," Bernard Franklin, the association's senior vice president for governance and membership, said in a statement. "However, in its review of the particular circumstances regarding Florida State, the staff review committee noted the unique relationship between the university and the Seminole Tribe of Florida as a significant factor."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/24/sport ... d=all&_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This isn't something for you and I to discuss or figure out. It's not up to us. If Dan Snyder is really out there performing outreach to the tribes of America, he should consult them about the name and no one else. If they don't like it, change it. Period.


#EaglesFan

Great post.

http://news.yahoo.com/california-govern ... 11865.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Four California high schools will be forced to change mascots after Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation making the state the first to bar public schools from using the Redskins name for sports teams.

It was one of three sports-related bills approved by Brown in the last week. He also signed a measure that bans players and coaches from using smokeless tobacco at professional baseball parks and another that recognizes competitive cheerleading as a high school sport.

The mascot legislation signed Sunday will prevent public schools from using a term that American Indians regard as offensive. The law, which goes into effect in 2017, is unique to California.

Yeah, it is not like California has no other issues like the budget, water shortages and mass congestion. Good ole Gov Moonbeam has his priorities in order, sure glad I moved out if that craphole.