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This happened in the Korean pro league. Catcher blew it. Had the runner dead to rights and let him get away....

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsSZSD0sw4Y[/youtube]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-l ... 53336.html

It was 5-0 before that run scored, making it 6-0. Why does anyone care?


And why am I posting in a SH thread!?!?!


Must be the booze....

how far outside the baseline is a runner allowed to go before he or she is considered "outside the baseline"?

It really isn't that crazy.

Probably should have been called out for leaving the baseline

That's what happens when you let women play baseball. Stupid female catcher.

Had this "baseline" issue come up in my son's games a couple of times.

The baseline rule is pretty much what most people think it is. It is an area within 3 feet of the "baseline". But the common misconception of "baseline" is that it is the direct line between bases. It is actually the direct line between the runner and the base he is trying to reach. The line is established when the fielder gets the ball. So if a runner is rounding second (and is clearly outside the line between second and third) and the ball is thrown to the third baseman, the baseline is the straight line distance between the runner and third base at the time the third baseman catches the ball. The runner can move 3 feet to either side of that line. That video showed the runner to be clearly more than 3 feet from the established baseline at the time the catcher caught the ball. The ump screwed up.

In a situation like that, it should be an automatic "out" call by the ump unless the runner slides under the tag or leaps over the fielder untagged. 3 feet is nothing more than an arm/glove length. The only time a runner can truly avoid a tag by moving 3 feet to one side of the line is when a throw is offline and the fielder is trying to tag the runner by moving in a direction that is 90 degrees to the line.

I believe he would've been ruled safe by 99% of umps in America too.

CAA Flagship wrote:Had this "baseline" issue come up in my son's games a couple of times.

The baseline rule is pretty much what most people think it is. It is an area within 3 feet of the "baseline". But the common misconception of "baseline" is that it is the direct line between bases. It is actually the direct line between the runner and the base he is trying to reach. The line is established when the fielder gets the ball. So if a runner is rounding second (and is clearly outside the line between second and third) and the ball is thrown to the third baseman, the baseline is the straight line distance between the runner and third base at the time the third baseman catches the ball. The runner can move 3 feet to either side of that line. That video showed the runner to be clearly more than 3 feet from the established baseline at the time the catcher caught the ball. The ump screwed up.

In a situation like that, it should be an automatic "out" call by the ump unless the runner slides under the tag or leaps over the fielder untagged. 3 feet is nothing more than an arm/glove length. The only time a runner can truly avoid a tag by moving 3 feet to one side of the line is when a throw is offline and the fielder is trying to tag the runner by moving in a direction that is 90 degrees to the line.

Absolutely correct.

I can't tell you how many times I delt with this when I was working games from fans and coaches. No matter how many times I explained the rule to the same coach they would never get it.

bluehenbillk wrote:I believe he would've been ruled safe by 99% of umps in America too.

Sadly this