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barry ties hank

No, Barry B.S. (before 'roids) + Barry A.S. = tied Hammerin' Hank. This is nothing but bull shit.

All this glory.....


....for smaller testicles. Way to prioritize!

Hurry up ARod

take off the asterisk, if the MLB didn't want roids in the 90's and 2000's they would have tested for it. They wanted the homers and the HR chase. If Barry wasn't suspended for it, it counts. PS I'm a Braves fan. I would like to see A-Rod break Barrys record in the future, I love to see records fall

Barry who?
Barry Sanders?
Barry Switzer?
Dave Barry?

Fresno St. Alum wrote:take off the asterisk, if the MLB didn't want roids in the 90's and 2000's they would have tested for it. They wanted the homers and the HR chase. If Barry wasn't suspended for it, it counts. PS I'm a Braves fan. I would like to see A-Rod break Barrys record in the future, I love to see records fall

Heard a great "No Asterisk" argument on the radio the other day: If baseball is going to put an asterisk on this record, perhaps they should put an asterisk on all records pre Jackie Robinson, since all the white guys in the league didn't have to face the best players in the world, only the best WHITE players in the world. Maybe they should asterisk all the records from the live ball era, since guys in the olden days had to deal with inferior equipment. Maybe they should asterisk all the records from the early 90's on, since all the new ballparks are bandboxes compared to the old ones. The fact of the matter is: Hitting a round object (traveling towards you @ 90 mph) with another round object and getting the first round object to go a long ways in the proper direction is the most difficult action in sports. Period.

I hate Barry Bonds, but I'd have a real difficult time determining if HIS issues have had any more or less effect on the baseball record books than those listed above.

Besides, in 10 years, it'll all be moot as A-Rod blows by him, and then Ryan Howard....

AZGrizFan wrote:

Fresno St. Alum wrote:take off the asterisk, if the MLB didn't want roids in the 90's and 2000's they would have tested for it. They wanted the homers and the HR chase. If Barry wasn't suspended for it, it counts. PS I'm a Braves fan. I would like to see A-Rod break Barrys record in the future, I love to see records fall

Heard a great "No Asterisk" argument on the radio the other day: If baseball is going to put an asterisk on this record, perhaps they should put an asterisk on all records pre Jackie Robinson, since all the white guys in the league didn't have to face the best players in the world, only the best WHITE players in the world. Maybe they should asterisk all the records from the live ball era, since guys in the olden days had to deal with inferior equipment. Maybe they should asterisk all the records from the early 90's on, since all the new ballparks are bandboxes compared to the old ones. The fact of the matter is: Hitting a round object (traveling towards you @ 90 mph) with another round object and getting the first round object to go a long ways in the proper direction is the most difficult action in sports. Period.

I hate Barry Bonds, but I'd have a real difficult time determining if HIS issues have had any more or less effect on the baseball record books than those listed above.

Besides, in 10 years, it'll all be moot as A-Rod blows by him, and then Ryan Howard....

The flaw in that argument is that all of things you mentioned were/are beyond the control of the individual player - dead ball era, pre-Jackie Robinson era, size of ballparks, etc. The players can only play the hand they are dealt at their respective points in history in regard to those types of things. On the other hand, use/non-use of steroids or HGH are personal choices made by each individual player and are therefore completely within each players' control.

I agree with you on A-Rod, though. He'll break the record within 10 years

lifesapuntreturn wrote:Barry who?
Barry Sanders?
Barry Switzer?
Dave Barry?

Barry Goldwater

lifesapuntreturn wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote: Heard a great "No Asterisk" argument on the radio the other day: If baseball is going to put an asterisk on this record, perhaps they should put an asterisk on all records pre Jackie Robinson, since all the white guys in the league didn't have to face the best players in the world, only the best WHITE players in the world. Maybe they should asterisk all the records from the live ball era, since guys in the olden days had to deal with inferior equipment. Maybe they should asterisk all the records from the early 90's on, since all the new ballparks are bandboxes compared to the old ones. The fact of the matter is: Hitting a round object (traveling towards you @ 90 mph) with another round object and getting the first round object to go a long ways in the proper direction is the most difficult action in sports. Period.

I hate Barry Bonds, but I'd have a real difficult time determining if HIS issues have had any more or less effect on the baseball record books than those listed above.

Besides, in 10 years, it'll all be moot as A-Rod blows by him, and then Ryan Howard....

The flaw in that argument is that all of things you mentioned were/are beyond the control of the individual player - dead ball era, pre-Jackie Robinson era, size of ballparks, etc. The players can only play the hand they are dealt at their respective points in history in regard to those types of things. On the other hand, use/non-use of steroids or HGH are personal choices made by each individual player and are therefore completely within each players' control.

I agree with you on A-Rod, though. He'll break the record within 10 years

Point being, however, that there is always SOME external force acting upon the record books. This is now forever known as the "steroid era", much like the "dead ball era" and the "segregation era" (Ok, I made that last one up, but you know what I mean).

Why are we making such a big deal about this? Bonds hasn't done anything yet. He just passed up a so-called record that is meaningless. The REAL record is 868 career home runs, held by the immortal Sadaharu Oh.