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Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:59 am
by JoltinJoe
Rooting for Curt Schilling to get in this time. I think he deserves it, at least eventually. I admire his fight against cancer and the way he has tried to help fundraising activities for ALS and cancer and, while things look good for him now going forward, who knows? Vote him in. He deserves its and let him enjoy it while he's still here (hopefully for a long time).
But if Schilling goes in, I don't see how Mussina is left out. Overall, Moose has the better case.
Otherwise, too many big names for anyone else other than the obvious ones.
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:01 pm
by JoltinJoe
Results are in.
Biggio, Smoltz, P. Martinez, Johnson.
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:08 pm
by Grizalltheway
Congrats Big Unit. I offcially feel old.
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:27 pm
by Grizalltheway
And just because it never gets old
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:53 pm
by CAA Flagship
Grizalltheway wrote:And just because it never gets old
I had a dream about a week ago and Zimmer was in it. He was working at the service shop where I was getting an oil change.
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:04 pm
by AZGrizFan
Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, John Smoltz and Craig Biggio have reached baseball immortality. They will be inducted into the Hall of Fame in July, after the Baseball Writers Association of America announced Tuesday that the four of them earned the necessary votes for Cooperstown.
Johnson and Martinez, two dominant pitchers on the ballot for the first time, were elected easily, earning 97.3 percent of the vote and 91.1 percent, respectively. Smoltz, another first timer who was dominant as both a starting pitcher and a closer, received 82.9 percent. This was Biggio's third time on the ballot. He missed Cooperstown by two votes in 2014, but earned 82.7 percent of the vote this time, thanks in large part of those 3,000 hits he compiled.
Would love to talk to the couple of voters who left Randy Johnson off their ballot.
Fucking morons.
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:05 pm
by AZGrizFan
JoltinJoe wrote:Rooting for Curt Schilling to get in this time. I think he deserves it, at least eventually. I admire his fight against cancer and the way he has tried to help fundraising activities for ALS and cancer and, while things look good for him now going forward, who knows? Vote him in. He deserves its and let him enjoy it while he's still here (hopefully for a long time).
But if Schilling goes in, I don't see how Mussina is left out. Overall, Moose has the better case.
Otherwise, too many big names for anyone else other than the obvious ones.
This isn't a cancer hall of fame. It's a BASEBALL hall of fame. Schilling doesn't belong in it, and neither does Mussina.
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:05 pm
by dbackjon
Congrats Big Unit!! Will be first Dback in the Hall of Fame!!!
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:19 pm
by Gil Dobie
JoltinJoe wrote:Rooting for Curt Schilling to get in this time. I think he deserves it, at least eventually. I admire his fight against cancer and the way he has tried to help fundraising activities for ALS and cancer and, while things look good for him now going forward, who knows? Vote him in. He deserves its and let him enjoy it while he's still here (hopefully for a long time).
But if Schilling goes in, I don't see how Mussina is left out. Overall, Moose has the better case.
Otherwise, too many big names for anyone else other than the obvious ones.
Mussina is another Jack Morris with 118 less complete games.
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:47 pm
by Grizalltheway
dbackjon wrote:Congrats Big Unit!! Will be first Dback in the Hall of Fame!!!
We'll see about that.
Johnson, if he wears either an Arizona Diamondbacks or Seattle Mariners cap, would be the first player enshrined as a member of either team. He could go in to the Hall of Fame without a team-specific cap like Greg Maddux did.
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:55 pm
by kalm
This thread is almost as exciting as the regular season.
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:02 pm
by dbackjon
Grizalltheway wrote:dbackjon wrote:Congrats Big Unit!! Will be first Dback in the Hall of Fame!!!
We'll see about that.
Johnson, if he wears either an Arizona Diamondbacks or Seattle Mariners cap, would be the first player enshrined as a member of either team. He could go in to the Hall of Fame without a team-specific cap like Greg Maddux did.
You guys will get Griffey next year. he works for the Dbacks. He's an Arizonan. Not likely to see another Dback anytime soon. Randy likes to stand out and be unique. He wanted to be traded to Arizona in 1998, so he could be the first starter ever for the franchise.
4 Cy Youngs in Arizona, only one in Seattle
1 World Series MVP and ring in Arizona - NONE in Seattle
1 Perfect Game in Arizona
He's been pitcher of the month 8 times - 5 in Arizona, 2 in Seattle, 1 in Houston
His best years were in Arizona
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:14 pm
by tribe_pride
dbackjon wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:
We'll see about that.
You guys will get Griffey next year. he works for the Dbacks. He's an Arizonan. Not likely to see another Dback anytime soon. Randy likes to stand out and be unique. He wanted to be traded to Arizona in 1998, so he could be the first starter ever for the franchise.
4 Cy Youngs in Arizona, only one in Seattle
1 World Series MVP and ring in Arizona - NONE in Seattle
1 Perfect Game in Arizona
He's been pitcher of the month 8 times - 5 in Arizona, 2 in Seattle, 1 in Houston
His best years were in Arizona
Though the game he will be best remembered for will be as a Mariner as a relief pitcher against the Yankees in the playoffs.
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:20 pm
by Grizalltheway
dbackjon wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:
We'll see about that.
You guys will get Griffey next year. he works for the Dbacks. He's an Arizonan. Not likely to see another Dback anytime soon. Randy likes to stand out and be unique. He wanted to be traded to Arizona in 1998, so he could be the first starter ever for the franchise.
4 Cy Youngs in Arizona, only one in Seattle
1 World Series MVP and ring
* in Arizona - NONE in Seattle
1 Perfect Game in Arizona
He's been pitcher of the month 8 times - 5 in Arizona, 2 in Seattle, 1 in Houston
His best years were in Arizona
For Joe.
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:22 pm
by dbackjon
tribe_pride wrote:dbackjon wrote:
You guys will get Griffey next year. he works for the Dbacks. He's an Arizonan. Not likely to see another Dback anytime soon. Randy likes to stand out and be unique. He wanted to be traded to Arizona in 1998, so he could be the first starter ever for the franchise.
4 Cy Youngs in Arizona, only one in Seattle
1 World Series MVP and ring in Arizona - NONE in Seattle
1 Perfect Game in Arizona
He's been pitcher of the month 8 times - 5 in Arizona, 2 in Seattle, 1 in Houston
His best years were in Arizona
Though the game he will be best remembered for will be as a Mariner as a relief pitcher against the Yankees in the playoffs.
LOL - not even close
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:06 pm
by JoltinJoe
Grizalltheway wrote:dbackjon wrote:
You guys will get Griffey next year. he works for the Dbacks. He's an Arizonan. Not likely to see another Dback anytime soon. Randy likes to stand out and be unique. He wanted to be traded to Arizona in 1998, so he could be the first starter ever for the franchise.
4 Cy Youngs in Arizona, only one in Seattle
1 World Series MVP and ring
* in Arizona - NONE in Seattle
1 Perfect Game in Arizona
He's been pitcher of the month 8 times - 5 in Arizona, 2 in Seattle, 1 in Houston
His best years were in Arizona
For Joe.
For all his purported greatness, he couldn't cut in the major leagues, i.e., when he was promoted to the Yankees for the 2005 and 2006 seasons.
After two seasons, we demoted him back to the Diamondbacks, and he finished his career in the bush leagues.
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:13 am
by GannonFan
JoltinJoe wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:
For Joe.
For all his purported greatness, he couldn't cut in the major leagues, i.e., when he was promoted to the Yankees for the 2005 and 2006 seasons.
After two seasons, we demoted him back to the Diamondbacks, and he finished his career in the bush leagues.
The Yankees lost to a bush league team in the 2001 World Series? Mariano Rivera blew a save in the ninth inning of a World Series Game 7 to a bunch of bush leaguers? Say it ain't so, Joe!
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:29 am
by JoltinJoe
The purported results of the 2001 World Series have been nullified due Luis Gonzalez's PED use.
Given that the doping Gonzalez "muscled" (cough, cough) Rivera's pitch about 120 feet for the most lame "hit" in baseball history, the scoring decision on the game's final play is now PO-6.
Yankees awarded their fourth straight title.
It is regrettable that this event happened and ushered in the shameful period of "Steroid Champions" from 2001 through 2008.
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:48 am
by dbackjon
JoltinJoe wrote:The purported results of the 2001 World Series have been nullified due Luis Gonzalez's PED use.
Given that the doping Gonzalez "muscled" (cough, cough) Rivera's pitch about 120 feet for the most lame "hit" in baseball history, the scoring decision on the game's final play is now PO-6.
Yankees awarded their fourth straight title.
It is regrettable that this event happened and ushered in the shameful period of "Steroid Champions" from 2001 through 2008.
Lol Miss Cleo
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:02 pm
by CAA Flagship
JoltinJoe wrote:The purported results of the 2001 World Series have been nullified due Luis Gonzalez's PED use.
Given that the doping Gonzalez "muscled" (cough, cough) Rivera's pitch about 120 feet for the most lame "hit" in baseball history, the scoring decision on the game's final play is now PO-6.
Yankees awarded their fourth straight title.
It is regrettable that this event happened and ushered in the shameful period of "Steroid Champions" from 2001 through 2008.
Truer words were never spoken.
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:25 pm
by GannonFan
JoltinJoe wrote:The purported results of the 2001 World Series have been nullified due Luis Gonzalez's PED use.
Given that the doping Gonzalez "muscled" (cough, cough) Rivera's pitch about 120 feet for the most lame "hit" in baseball history, the scoring decision on the game's final play is now PO-6.
Yankees awarded their fourth straight title.
It is regrettable that this event happened and ushered in the shameful period of "Steroid Champions" from 2001 through 2008.
Any chance Luis Gonzalez got the PED's from Andy Petite or Roger Clemens during the series? And sorry, the Biogenisis scandal that finally pulled down that Yankee cheater A-Rod even throws the Yanks title in '09 into doubt as well. Bunch of cheaters - Jeter might have been the only clean one in the clubhouse. For shame. net to Bill Bellichick's video-taping cheating, Yankee steroid abuse over the past 20 years is probably one of the biggest stains in sports.
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:31 pm
by SuperHornet
OK. I "get" inducting Johnson, Smoltz, and Martinez. They're that good, and then some.
But Biggio?!? He's a VERY nice guy, and a pretty good catcher/second baseman, one of those kinds of guys that anyone would want on their team for chemistry purposes. But HOF material?!? Heck, no. Joe Morgan, he ain't....
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:44 pm
by AZGrizFan
SuperHornet wrote:OK. I "get" inducting Johnson, Smoltz, and Martinez. They're that good, and then some.
But Biggio?!? He's a VERY nice guy, and a pretty good catcher/second baseman, one of those kinds of guys that anyone would want on their team for chemistry purposes. But HOF material?!? Heck, no. Joe Morgan, he ain't....
You're right. He ain't Joe Morgan. He's got more hits, more HR's, more RBI's, a higher career batting average, scored more runs, and more doubles. About the ONLY thing Morgan has over Biggio is 2 MVP trophies, and that's really only because he happened to be lucky enough to be on The Big Red Machine in the 70's.
Biggio is MORE deserving than Morgan.
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:55 am
by JoltinJoe
GannonFan wrote:For shame. net to Bill Bellichick's video-taping cheating, Yankee steroid abuse over the past 20 years is probably one of the biggest stains in sports.
Funny stuff there. No team was actually hurt more by rampant PED use than the Yankees.
Re: Hall of Fame voting announced at 2 EST
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:57 am
by Gil Dobie
JoltinJoe wrote:GannonFan wrote:For shame. net to Bill Bellichick's video-taping cheating, Yankee steroid abuse over the past 20 years is probably one of the biggest stains in sports.
Funny stuff there. No team was actually hurt more by rampant PED use than the Yankees.
First Chuck Knoblauch 1998 tainted, then Clemens 1999 tainted tainted.