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NFL PAT rule changed

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 10:29 pm
by bonarae

Re: NFL PAT rule changed

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 6:39 am
by GannonFan
Call me a skeptic, but I don't see this changing much of anything. Coaches will still go for the kick, they'll still make an extremely high percentage, and the play will continue to be boring. Now, if they move the spot for the 2 point conversion in, say even half a yard, and then you might have something. Luckily, they only made this a one year change so they can improve on it next year when they realize this current change didn't do much of anything.

Re: NFL PAT rule changed

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 10:33 am
by CAA Flagship
Well that wipes out the possibility of a fake kick for a two point conversion.
Unnecessary rule change.

Re: NFL PAT rule changed

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 6:48 pm
by YoUDeeMan
CAA Flagship wrote:Well that wipes out the possibility of a fake kick for a two point conversion.
Unnecessary rule change.
Same thing I thought. Odd decision.

Re: NFL PAT rule changed

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 7:29 pm
by Vidav
It was pretty boring before. Now more teams will go for two.

Re: NFL PAT rule changed

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 8:10 pm
by AZGrizFan
Vidav wrote:It was pretty boring before. Now more teams will go for two.
But now the defense will KNOW they're going for two.

Re: NFL PAT rule changed

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 8:25 pm
by Vidav
AZGrizFan wrote:
Vidav wrote:It was pretty boring before. Now more teams will go for two.
But now the defense will KNOW they're going for two.
Meh.

Re: NFL PAT rule changed

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 10:38 pm
by SuperHornet
CAA Flagship wrote:Well that wipes out the possibility of a fake kick for a two point conversion.
Unnecessary rule change.
Not completely. Sure, a fake from the 15 might be a bit harder, but it's certainly doable. The point that the 2 from the 2 is obvious to the defense makes the surprise of the fake for 2 from the 15 viable, particularly if one is dealing with a weak defense. All you have to do is shift out of kick formation into a spread, and the defense is caught short....

Re: NFL PAT rule changed

Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 6:58 am
by GannonFan
Vidav wrote:It was pretty boring before. Now more teams will go for two.
Not by any large margin, hence why the change is silly. If you really wanted more teams to eschew the extra point and go for two, move the line of scrimmage in a little bit (no more than the 1.5 yard line) and let them snap it from there. This change is like saying that things need to change, and then do nothing about it.

Re: NFL PAT rule changed

Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 9:12 am
by tribe_pride
CAA Flagship wrote:Well that wipes out the possibility of a fake kick for a two point conversion.
Unnecessary rule change.
How many fake XPs for a 2 point conversion have their been anyway? I'd be surprised if there were more than 5 and that may be a lot.

Re: NFL PAT rule changed

Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 9:23 am
by dbackjon
This chart shows the reason for the change. It used to NOT be automatic, and they are just trying to restore a bit of uncertainity to the XP. Good change.

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Re: NFL PAT rule changed

Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 9:56 am
by GannonFan
dbackjon wrote:This chart shows the reason for the change. It used to NOT be automatic, and they are just trying to restore a bit of uncertainity to the XP. Good change.

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Yup, going from 98% success to 96% success will just keep people on their edge of their seats when it comes time to kick the XP. There's probably a 99% chance that they'll change this again next year since they've essentially done very little now.

Re: NFL PAT rule changed

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 6:14 am
by Willie
If you're moving the kick back, move the line back for two point conversions too. That'd make shit interesting. Otherwise sense make none.

Re: NFL PAT rule changed

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 6:48 am
by GannonFan
Willie wrote:If you're moving the kick back, move the line back for two point conversions too. That'd make **** interesting. Otherwise sense make none.
Why would you move the line backwards for the two point conversion, i.e. why would you make it harder and less likely for people to try for the two point conversion? Did you mean move it forward?

Re: NFL PAT rule changed

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 7:30 am
by Willie
No, I didn't.

It means, stop messing with the damn rules. The game is just fine as it is.