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NFL Fires HCs too fast

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:28 am
by SuperHornet
Essentially what I've been saying for years....

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/1/4/10 ... ing-rumors

Re: NFL Fires HCs too fast

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:31 am
by 89Hen
In the case of Chip Kelly, not so much. He not only dug his own grave, he carved his own coffin and chiseled his headstone too.

Re: NFL Fires HCs too fast

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:51 am
by Chizzang
Owners need to have a dose of serious skepticism when regarding coaches as GM's and Personnel deciders
The list of successful Coach/GM's can be counted on one hand over the last 30 years

:nod:

Chip is a fine coach and an absolute horrid GM

:coffee:

Re: NFL Fires HCs too fast

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:58 am
by tribe_pride
I think the rumor was that in the meeting where he was fired, Chip insisted that he still maintain control of the personnel decisions (meaning stay GM) next year if he was to remain coach. If true, then they had no choice but to fire him since he is not cut out for both. Since then, Chip has said he does not need such control but that may have only come to him once he was fired.

Re: NFL Fires HCs too fast

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:52 pm
by SuperHornet
89Hen wrote:In the case of Chip Kelly, not so much. He not only dug his own grave, he carved his own coffin and chiseled his headstone too.
There are always exceptions to that rule.
tribe_pride wrote:I think the rumor was that in the meeting where he was fired, Chip insisted that he still maintain control of the personnel decisions (meaning stay GM) next year if he was to remain coach. If true, then they had no choice but to fire him since he is not cut out for both. Since then, Chip has said he does not need such control but that may have only come to him once he was fired.
This is as good a reason for Chip as any.

Re: NFL Fires HCs too fast

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:53 am
by andy7171
I don't think Tom Landry was given a fair shake either Casey.

Re: NFL Fires HCs too fast

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:30 am
by 89Hen
SuperHornet wrote:
89Hen wrote:In the case of Chip Kelly, not so much. He not only dug his own grave, he carved his own coffin and chiseled his headstone too.
There are always exceptions to that rule.
The article was citing Kelly as their number one example Horney, so... :coffee:

Re: NFL Fires HCs too fast

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:32 am
by Ibanez
Yet, the Cowboys are sticking with their man.

Re: NFL Fires HCs too fast

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:40 am
by Wedgebuster
Chip announced as new HC of the Fourty Whiners.

Re: NFL Fires HCs too fast

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:03 pm
by bluehenbillk
And the Eagles are wandering aimlessly through the forest with no HC because they haven't found anyone willing to work with Howie Roseman...

Re: NFL Fires HCs too fast

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:17 pm
by tribe_pride
bluehenbillk wrote:And the Eagles are wandering aimlessly through the forest with no HC because they haven't found anyone willing to work with Howie Roseman...
Waiting for a certain Defensive Coordinator of a playoff team? (Yeah - I know Coughlin just rejected them but he also has said he only has 2-3 years left and who wants to hire a head coach who says that)

Re: NFL Fires HCs too fast

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:31 pm
by SuperHornet
andy7171 wrote:I don't think Tom Landry was given a fair shake either Casey.
Agreed. And the way he reportedly found out that he was canned was deplorable if true. Supposedly, Jones didn't even bother to talk to him. Found out from a reporter looking for an interview....

Re: NFL Fires HCs too fast

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:21 pm
by Vidav
SuperHornet wrote:
andy7171 wrote:I don't think Tom Landry was given a fair shake either Casey.
Agreed. And the way he reportedly found out that he was canned was deplorable if true. Supposedly, Jones didn't even bother to talk to him. Found out from a reporter looking for an interview....
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Re: NFL Fires HCs too fast

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:02 pm
by Pwns
Coaches are fired in the NFL in hopes that fans will get a sense of a fresh start and go back to attending games and buying tickets.

Coaching is vastly overrated at the NFL level. Bill Parcells was 0.500 at New England. Bill Belichick had a losing record at Cleveland. Mike Ditka had a terrible record at New Orleans.

Compare that to college coaches like Urban Meyer, Bryan Kelly, and Nick Saban that win wherever they go.