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Not quite sure why people are saying that it is a dumpster fire this year. They were playing like crap and already have had tons of injuries but are only 2.5 outside a Wild Card spot having just won 3 straight series including 1 over the Nats and going 6-3 in that stretch. Sure the Harvey thing sucks but better to take care of that crap now and he is back for his next start.

If you want to look at teams going to crap right now, look at the SF Giants and the Blue Jays. Both supposed to be pretty strong and both have records that are horrible.
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bandl wrote:
tribe_pride wrote: Not quite sure why people are saying that it is a dumpster fire this year. They were playing like crap and already have had tons of injuries but are only 2.5 outside a Wild Card spot having just won 3 straight series including 1 over the Nats and going 6-3 in that stretch. Sure the Harvey thing sucks but better to take care of that crap now and he is back for his next start.
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I don't think it's a far stretch to call this team a dumpster fire when many people picked them to win the NL East.
Yeah but despite all of that, they are only 1 game under .500 and 2 games out of the WC spot having won 7 of their last 10 (and winning today's game 4-0 in the 1st inning).

Most people realistically had the Nats winning the NL East with the Mets as a WC team. I just briefly looked and didn't see any preseason picks having the Mets winning 90+ games this year. All mid-upper 80s wins which is still possible as they should be .500 after today. Teams like SF and Toronto who were predicted as playoff possibilities but are 11-22 and 12-20 are more dumpster fires.
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tribe_pride wrote:
bandl wrote:
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I don't think it's a far stretch to call this team a dumpster fire when many people picked them to win the NL East.
Yeah but despite all of that, they are only 1 game under .500 and 2 games out of the WC spot having won 7 of their last 10 (and winning today's game 4-0 in the 1st inning).

Most people realistically had the Nats winning the NL East with the Mets as a WC team. I just briefly looked and didn't see any preseason picks having the Mets winning 90+ games this year. All mid-upper 80s wins which is still possible as they should be .500 after today. Teams like SF and Toronto who were predicted as playoff possibilities but are 11-22 and 12-20 are more dumpster fires.
:lol:
The first link, literally the very FIRST link, I clicked on when I searched for 'MLB 2017 Predictions' had this to say:

"I think both teams will win 90 games or more and make the playoffs. However, I think the Mets will win the division because I like their starting pitching quality and depth. I think that both Noah Syndergaard and Jacob deGrom will be Cy Young Award candidates. I think Matt Harvey -- after four or five starts -- will get back to be being a premium pitcher. Steven Matz will be one of the top five left-handed starters in the league. At the back of the rotation, Robert Gsellman, Seth Lugo and eventually Zack Wheeler could be the difference-makers for the Mets to edge out the Nationals for the NL East title."

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/page/Se ... redictions

[Quick! Deflect! Hurry! Say you don't watch or read ESPN! That's why you didn't see that prediction!]

Let's not forget about the fact that the Mets apparently don't know how to properly withhold a player with a minor injury from further worsening that injury and ending up on the DL for an even longer stint...which is, of course, the reason why so many of their players are on the DL.

Not sure why you keep trying to deflect by bringing up SF and Toronto, unless you just like watching 3 dumpster fires. (Although I seriously doubt anyone here would mind watching the SF dumpster fire burn for several more years).

But hey, if the Mets get back on track for a while, great! It will make the summer a little more interesting. It would be a lot more enjoyable for everyone who watches baseball if the Mets were somewhat more competitive than they have been thus far this year. Division runaways are boring.
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Scherzer pitches a gem and then the bullpen blows another save. If the Nats had a bullpen, they'd be unbeatable.
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Mariners complete a quick-hitter sweep of the Phils to get to .500. On to the Blow Gays.
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89Hen wrote:Scherzer pitches a gem and then the bullpen blows another save. If the Nats had a bullpen, they'd be unbeatable.
This happens twice a month to him. It's either that or HE gives up a homer in the 7th or 8th to lose a lead.
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bandl wrote:
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Yeah but despite all of that, they are only 1 game under .500 and 2 games out of the WC spot having won 7 of their last 10 (and winning today's game 4-0 in the 1st inning).

Most people realistically had the Nats winning the NL East with the Mets as a WC team. I just briefly looked and didn't see any preseason picks having the Mets winning 90+ games this year. All mid-upper 80s wins which is still possible as they should be .500 after today. Teams like SF and Toronto who were predicted as playoff possibilities but are 11-22 and 12-20 are more dumpster fires.
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The first link, literally the very FIRST link, I clicked on when I searched for 'MLB 2017 Predictions' had this to say:

"I think both teams will win 90 games or more and make the playoffs. However, I think the Mets will win the division because I like their starting pitching quality and depth. I think that both Noah Syndergaard and Jacob deGrom will be Cy Young Award candidates. I think Matt Harvey -- after four or five starts -- will get back to be being a premium pitcher. Steven Matz will be one of the top five left-handed starters in the league. At the back of the rotation, Robert Gsellman, Seth Lugo and eventually Zack Wheeler could be the difference-makers for the Mets to edge out the Nationals for the NL East title."

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/page/Se ... redictions

[Quick! Deflect! Hurry! Say you don't watch or read ESPN! That's why you didn't see that prediction!]

Let's not forget about the fact that the Mets apparently don't know how to properly withhold a player with a minor injury from further worsening that injury and ending up on the DL for an even longer stint...which is, of course, the reason why so many of their players are on the DL.

Not sure why you keep trying to deflect by bringing up SF and Toronto, unless you just like watching 3 dumpster fires. (Although I seriously doubt anyone here would mind watching the SF dumpster fire burn for several more years).

But hey, if the Mets get back on track for a while, great! It will make the summer a little more interesting. It would be a lot more enjoyable for everyone who watches baseball if the Mets were somewhat more competitive than they have been thus far this year. Division runaways are boring.
My major point is that they have about a .500 record with only about 20% of the games over and are now 2 games out of a wild card spot. I don't really ever hear of teams being dumpster fires when teams are like that. We just must have different definitions or you must be including other teams as dumpster fires such as the Cubs who are only at .500 themselves.You just don't like NY teams.

As for you finding ESPN prediction, they may have it at 90 but I looked at 3 or 4 that had <90. When I didn't see projected standings with win-loss records as predictions in articles for all teams, I ignored because that is more just pulling predictions out of the air which is why I probably overlooked the ESPN one. Either way, I think 90 was more than should have been as high as could have been expected if they were healthy. Last year they made the playoffs with 87 wins, year before were very hot and won 90, and no where close anytime before that.
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So far so good for my Rockies, the rookie starters have done great so far. Bettie and Gray should be back in a month or so, Though Bettie may take a lot longer depending on results. Do you guys think the highly improbable can happen with this team with a 22-13 record so far?


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Have the Nats won a playoff series yet? You know, ever? Just checking.
They haven't even won the manufactured "Battle of the Beltways" series yet.

The question is when the Nats play the Yankees, does he sit out or even throw the game?
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tribe_pride wrote:
bandl wrote:
:lol:
The first link, literally the very FIRST link, I clicked on when I searched for 'MLB 2017 Predictions' had this to say:

"I think both teams will win 90 games or more and make the playoffs. However, I think the Mets will win the division because I like their starting pitching quality and depth. I think that both Noah Syndergaard and Jacob deGrom will be Cy Young Award candidates. I think Matt Harvey -- after four or five starts -- will get back to be being a premium pitcher. Steven Matz will be one of the top five left-handed starters in the league. At the back of the rotation, Robert Gsellman, Seth Lugo and eventually Zack Wheeler could be the difference-makers for the Mets to edge out the Nationals for the NL East title."

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/page/Se ... redictions

[Quick! Deflect! Hurry! Say you don't watch or read ESPN! That's why you didn't see that prediction!]

Let's not forget about the fact that the Mets apparently don't know how to properly withhold a player with a minor injury from further worsening that injury and ending up on the DL for an even longer stint...which is, of course, the reason why so many of their players are on the DL.

Not sure why you keep trying to deflect by bringing up SF and Toronto, unless you just like watching 3 dumpster fires. (Although I seriously doubt anyone here would mind watching the SF dumpster fire burn for several more years).

But hey, if the Mets get back on track for a while, great! It will make the summer a little more interesting. It would be a lot more enjoyable for everyone who watches baseball if the Mets were somewhat more competitive than they have been thus far this year. Division runaways are boring.
My major point is that they have about a .500 record with only about 20% of the games over and are now 2 games out of a wild card spot. I don't really ever hear of teams being dumpster fires when teams are like that. We just must have different definitions or you must be including other teams as dumpster fires such as the Cubs who are only at .500 themselves.You just don't like NY teams.

As for you finding ESPN prediction, they may have it at 90 but I looked at 3 or 4 that had <90. When I didn't see projected standings with win-loss records as predictions in articles for all teams, I ignored because that is more just pulling predictions out of the air which is why I probably overlooked the ESPN one. Either way, I think 90 was more than should have been as high as could have been expected if they were healthy. Last year they made the playoffs with 87 wins, year before were very hot and won 90, and no where close anytime before that.
First of all) I think you're drunk because you're a little all over the place. Leave it to the experts around her like 89, StickyAss, 93 and myself on how to properly and coherently post when drunk. You're not good at it.
2) For a team that has been picked to win the division, being under .500 is not good 1/5th of the way through the season, no matter how you spin it. I like to call them a dumpster fire for several reasons, but mostly because I knew calling them a dumpster fire would immediately snag you.
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bandl wrote:
tribe_pride wrote:
My major point is that they have about a .500 record with only about 20% of the games over and are now 2 games out of a wild card spot. I don't really ever hear of teams being dumpster fires when teams are like that. We just must have different definitions or you must be including other teams as dumpster fires such as the Cubs who are only at .500 themselves.You just don't like NY teams.

As for you finding ESPN prediction, they may have it at 90 but I looked at 3 or 4 that had <90. When I didn't see projected standings with win-loss records as predictions in articles for all teams, I ignored because that is more just pulling predictions out of the air which is why I probably overlooked the ESPN one. Either way, I think 90 was more than should have been as high as could have been expected if they were healthy. Last year they made the playoffs with 87 wins, year before were very hot and won 90, and no where close anytime before that.
First of all) I think you're drunk because you're a little all over the place. Leave it to the experts around her like 89, StickyAss, 93 and myself on how to properly and coherently post when drunk. You're not good at it.
2) For a team that has been picked to win the division, being under .500 is not good 1/5th of the way through the season, no matter how you spin it. I like to call them a dumpster fire for several reasons, but mostly because I knew calling them a dumpster fire would immediately snag you.
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If you want to say that they have been disappointing this season so far, I'll agree with that. I just disagree with the dumpster fire comment.
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tribe_pride wrote:
bandl wrote: First of all) I think you're drunk because you're a little all over the place. Leave it to the experts around her like 89, StickyAss, 93 and myself on how to properly and coherently post when drunk. You're not good at it.
2) For a team that has been picked to win the division, being under .500 is not good 1/5th of the way through the season, no matter how you spin it. I like to call them a dumpster fire for several reasons, but mostly because I knew calling them a dumpster fire would immediately snag you.
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If you want to say that they have been disappointing this season so far, I'll agree with that. I just disagree with the dumpster fire comment.
Maybe you're right..maybe dumpster fire isn't the right description. How about dumper fire?
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bandl wrote:
tribe_pride wrote:
If you want to say that they have been disappointing this season so far, I'll agree with that. I just disagree with the dumpster fire comment.
Maybe you're right..maybe dumpster fire isn't the right description. How about dumper fire?
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Mets ERA - 5.07 (30th out of 30 teams)
Mets BAA - .271 (29th out of 30 teams)

Isn't the Mets pitching supposed to be their bedrock? :?
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Dont look now, the Braves have a winning streak going...........one in a row baby!

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Dont look now, the Braves have a winning streak going...........one in a row baby!

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Angles will struggle to be 500 again this year which is what happens when you have no pitching to speak of...But on a side note, Mike Trout missed 5 games last week with a tender hamstring but he's back now and has homered in 4 straight games....
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Trout has now homered in last 5 of 6 games.....
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VictorG wrote:Trout has now homered in last 5 of 6 games.....
Poor shmuck is wasting his prime....
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The Giants and the Blue Jays have more wins than the Mets.

Mets = Dumpster Fire

That is all.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
VictorG wrote:Trout has now homered in last 5 of 6 games.....
Poor shmuck is wasting his prime....

I know...It's killing me......but, he's in his what, 3rd year of a 100 million+ contract and is or will be 25 this year. He's going to break the bank in a couple years...
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Yea!!!!

Freddie Freeman got hit by a pitch last night and has a broken wrist..............
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VictorG wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Poor shmuck is wasting his prime....

I know...It's killing me......but, he's in his what, 3rd year of a 100 million+ contract and is or will be 25 this year. He's going to break the bank in a couple years...
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bandl wrote:The Giants and the Blue Jays have more wins than the Mets.

Mets = Dumpster Fire

That is all.
If the Mets are a dumpster fire, then the Phillies are on their way to the seventh circle of hell. :ohno: :fuel:
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Ivytalk wrote:
bandl wrote:The Giants and the Blue Jays have more wins than the Mets.

Mets = Dumpster Fire

That is all.
If the Mets are a dumpster fire, then the Phillies are on their way to the seventh circle of hell. :ohno: :fuel:
Well, the Phillies are doing exactly what is expected of them, as they are in rebuilding mode this season and beyond. Nothing wrong with that, as the Phillies have shown in the past that they know how to rebuild.
The Mets are doing exactly the opposite of what most expected of them, as they were picked to win the division or get into the playoffs as a wild card. 7 games under .500 and 6.5 games out of a wild card? Luckily for them we're only a quarter of the way through the season, so they have plenty of time to recover.
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