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Re: 2017 MLB Thread

Postby CAA Flagship » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:18 pm

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CAA Flagship wrote:I agree with you on hockey. Can't sit and wait. But if you went to say 12 teams, one of the things you could do is include a round robin type format...

You lost me quickly on this post Flaggy... and a vast majority of hockey fans I'm guessing too. Round robin? :suspicious: This isn't gay soccer. :lol:

OK. 6 teams in each league. Play each team twice (10 games). Top 2 records in each group of 6 advance to final 4 and play traditional 7 game series from there. That is the only way to do the playoffs with something other than 8 or 16 team brackets, and not have someone sit and wait. But like I said, there would be great fan interest in more "other" games than just the "homer" games.

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Re: 2017 MLB Thread

Postby 89Hen » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:22 pm

CAA Flagship wrote:On basketball, I'm talking about two closely matched teams, pro or college. Even the RPI calculation recognizes the homecourt advantage. And I think oddsmakers give the biggest edge to home basketball teams than any other sport.

BTW, I know that I've seen the Cavaliers come to DC and not dress Lebron and Kyrie. NBA teams do that not infrequently and AFAIK, it's always on the road.
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Re: 2017 MLB Thread

Postby 89Hen » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:22 pm

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89Hen wrote:You lost me quickly on this post Flaggy... and a vast majority of hockey fans I'm guessing too. Round robin? :suspicious: This isn't gay soccer. :lol:

OK. 6 teams in each league. Play each team twice (10 games). Top 2 records in each group of 6 advance to final 4 and play traditional 7 game series from there. That is the only way to do the playoffs with something other than 8 or 16 team brackets, and not have someone sit and wait. But like I said, there would be great fan interest in more "other" games than just the "homer" games.

You would have already lost the regular fan.
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Re: 2017 MLB Thread

Postby bandl » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:26 pm

89Hen wrote:On the NBA How many #8's have beaten #1's? I think the answer is still none. Rest my case on that one.

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Re: 2017 MLB Thread

Postby CAA Flagship » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:36 pm

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CAA Flagship wrote:OK. 6 teams in each league. Play each team twice (10 games). Top 2 records in each group of 6 advance to final 4 and play traditional 7 game series from there. That is the only way to do the playoffs with something other than 8 or 16 team brackets, and not have someone sit and wait. But like I said, there would be great fan interest in more "other" games than just the "homer" games.

You would have already lost the regular fan.

The owners probably wouldn't go for it either. :lol:

But if you think about it, at most, there are 28 games in Round 1 of 8 teams and 14 games in Round 2 of 4 teams.
That's 42 games max to get to 2 teams. That's also as little as 24 games if all series go 4-0.
This format would guarantee 30 games between the six teams before the Conference Finals.

Yeah, it's out of the box thinking, but I think ratings would be better on a per game avg for those 30 games.

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Re: 2017 MLB Thread

Postby 89Hen » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:39 pm

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89Hen wrote:You would have already lost the regular fan.

The owners probably wouldn't go for it either. :lol:

But if you think about it, at most, there are 28 games in Round 1 of 8 teams and 14 games in Round 2 of 4 teams.
That's 42 games max to get to 2 teams. That's also as little as 24 games if all series go 4-0.
This format would guarantee 30 games between the six teams before the Conference Finals.

Yeah, it's out of the box thinking, but I think ratings would be better on a per game avg for those 30 games.

You keep typing, but I can't get past the first couple words. Olympics are fine for this. NHL, it's a hard no.
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Re: 2017 MLB Thread

Postby CAA Flagship » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:50 pm

89Hen wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote:The owners probably wouldn't go for it either. :lol:

But if you think about it, at most, there are 28 games in Round 1 of 8 teams and 14 games in Round 2 of 4 teams.
That's 42 games max to get to 2 teams. That's also as little as 24 games if all series go 4-0.
This format would guarantee 30 games between the six teams before the Conference Finals.

Yeah, it's out of the box thinking, but I think ratings would be better on a per game avg for those 30 games.

You keep typing, but I can't get past the first couple words. Olympics are fine for this. NHL, it's a hard no.

And another thing, :lol: , 10 games in 2 weeks. 2 rounds of 7 game series = 1 month. :tothehand:

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Re: 2017 MLB Thread

Postby 89Hen » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:01 pm

CAA Flagship wrote:
89Hen wrote:You keep typing, but I can't get past the first couple words. Olympics are fine for this. NHL, it's a hard no.

And another thing, :lol: , 10 games in 2 weeks. 2 rounds of 7 game series = 1 month. :tothehand:

Hockey is a tough sport. If you've never played it, you probably wouldn't get the need for pacing. FWIW, I think the NHL actually takes a day or two less for a series than the NBA. Last year the Caps/Pens 7 game set was over 14 days. Wiz/Celtics 7 game set went 15 days.
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Re: 2017 MLB Thread

Postby CAA Flagship » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:25 pm

89Hen wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote:And another thing, :lol: , 10 games in 2 weeks. 2 rounds of 7 game series = 1 month. :tothehand:

Hockey is a tough sport. If you've never played it, you probably wouldn't get the need for pacing. FWIW, I think the NHL actually takes a day or two less for a series than the NBA. Last year the Caps/Pens 7 game set was over 14 days. Wiz/Celtics 7 game set went 15 days.

I'm aware. Pretty sure my math is close enough, factoring in maximization of weekend dates for TV.

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Re: 2017 MLB Thread

Postby 89Hen » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:34 pm

CAA Flagship wrote:
89Hen wrote:Hockey is a tough sport. If you've never played it, you probably wouldn't get the need for pacing. FWIW, I think the NHL actually takes a day or two less for a series than the NBA. Last year the Caps/Pens 7 game set was over 14 days. Wiz/Celtics 7 game set went 15 days.

I'm aware. Pretty sure my math is close enough, factoring in maximization of weekend dates for TV.

Not for the NHL really. The Caps/Pens series last year was: Thursday, Saturday, Monday, Wednesday, Saturday, Monday, Wednesday.
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Re: 2017 MLB Thread

Postby CAA Flagship » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:44 pm

89Hen wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote:I'm aware. Pretty sure my math is close enough, factoring in maximization of weekend dates for TV.

Not for the NHL really. The Caps/Pens series last year was: Thursday, Saturday, Monday, Wednesday, Saturday, Monday, Wednesday.


I said 10 games in 2 weeks (approx 14 days) not sure how that is much different.

What happens when one Round 1 series goes 4 games and the other goes 7. The first winner has to wait a week, maybe as much as 9 days, to play again. Pacing flies out the window.

This will all never happen because the SC Finals are locked into a certain part of the year. Can't cut off 2 weeks of playoffs and still play the SC Finals at that time of the year. This should have been done before expanding the playoffs. Too late now. Only way to do it would be to extend the season by 2 weeks with 14 extra days off sprinkled in throughout the season. Still, not gonna happen.

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Re: 2017 MLB Thread

Postby CAA Flagship » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:50 pm

Hold the phone. I am screwed up. I meant to say 10 games in 3 weeks, initially, but somehow typed 2. And I carried the error by saying 14 days. :facepalm:

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Re: 2017 MLB Thread

Postby dbackjon » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:21 am

Can you please get this fake sport stuff off a real sport thread?
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Re: 2017 MLB Thread

Postby AZGrizFan » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:28 am

dbackjon wrote:Can you please get this fake sport stuff off a real sport thread?


Seriously. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
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Re: 2017 MLB Thread

Postby 89Hen » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:01 am

AZGrizFan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Can you please get this fake sport stuff off a real sport thread?


Seriously. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

We probably should just let this sport thread die. :roll:
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Re: 2017 MLB Thread

Postby AshevilleApp » Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:33 am

89Hen wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Seriously. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

We probably should just let this sport thread die. :roll:


Or start your own thread about hockey or basketball. Just a thought.

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Re: 2017 MLB Thread

Postby 89Hen » Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:21 pm

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89Hen wrote:We probably should just let this sport thread die. :roll:


Or start your own thread about hockey or basketball. Just a thought.

Yeah, all the other threads on this board always stay on target. My bad.
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Re: 2017 MLB Thread

Postby Gil Dobie » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:15 pm

Twins go to NY or Bos
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Re: 2017 MLB Thread

Postby CAA Flagship » Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:49 pm

89Hen wrote:
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Or start your own thread about hockey or basketball. Just a thought.

Yeah, all the other threads on this board always stay on target. My bad.

Hopefully Boston.

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Postby Col Hogan » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:29 pm

Red Sox win the AL East
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2017 MLB Thread

Postby Jjoey52 » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:41 pm

Rockies are in. Never would of thought it in April. They also have no fear of Grienke and stand a decent chance of sending the snakes home. If wild card teams do not like the set up, then win your division.

Also good luck Twins.


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Twins vs Yankees

Postby Gil Dobie » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:23 am

American League Play-in Game

Twins @ Yankees

Pitching Even
Hitting - Slight Edge Twins
Fielding - Twins
Bullpen - Hugh edge Yankees

Twins win 5-4
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Re: Twins vs Yankees

Postby bandl » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:25 am

Gil Dobie wrote:American League Play-in Game

Twins @ Yankees

Pitching Even
Hitting - Slight Edge Twins
Fielding - Twins
Bullpen - Hugh edge Yankees

Twins win 5-4

I hope so.
And I hope Judge goes 0'fer so I don't have to hear about it for the next few months

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Re: Twins vs Yankees

Postby CAA Flagship » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:02 pm

Gil Dobie wrote:American League Play-in Game

Twins @ Yankees

Pitching Even
Hitting - Slight Edge Twins
Fielding - Twins
Bullpen - Hugh edge Yankees

Twins win 5-4

Who came up with those advantages?
Santana has never won in Yankee Stadium. Even?
Does "Hitting" include home runs?
I'll take my chances on the fielding.
Depends on the day. Bullpen can be as bad as good.

That said, Twins will win 4-1.

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Re: Twins vs Yankees

Postby Gil Dobie » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:24 pm

CAA Flagship wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:American League Play-in Game

Twins @ Yankees

Pitching Even
Hitting - Slight Edge Twins
Fielding - Twins
Bullpen - Hugh edge Yankees

Twins win 5-4

Who came up with those advantages?
Santana has never won in Yankee Stadium. Even?
Does "Hitting" include home runs?
I'll take my chances on the fielding.
Depends on the day. Bullpen can be as bad as good.

That said, Twins will win 4-1.


I think Santana will be ready tonight.

Twins have a lot of young bats, that have raised their averages from the beginning of the season. They do have 9 players in double figures for homers, in a pitcher friendly stadium.

Defense has 2 possible gold gloves in Mauer and Buxton. Buxton has the speed to cover most of the outfield and can catch and throw. Hicks is great, but not at Bucks level. He has saved many runs for the Twins this year.

Bullpen, Twins have nuttin, need to get lucky.
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