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Did not realize there was almost an average of 25 seconds between pitches. That's just nuts.

Of course the baseball purists will complain baseball isn't baseball unless the batter has the opportunity to contemplate the meaning of the universe between every pitch.

Pwns wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 0e392f0d07

Did not realize there was almost an average of 25 seconds between pitches. That's just nuts.

Of course the baseball purists will complain baseball isn't baseball unless the batter has the opportunity to contemplate the meaning of the universe between every pitch.

The article points out that the issue isn't so much the length of an MLB game, but rather the growing infrequency of batted balls (due to bigger/more effective pitchers getting more Ks/game) and basehits (due to analytics-driven defensive shifts) - more time goes by between interesting baseball plays.

If MLB wants more offense then they'll need to reduce the spin on balls (knuckle-ballers aside) - which will require flatter stitching. Pretty simple fix.

Rob Iola wrote:

Pwns wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 0e392f0d07

Did not realize there was almost an average of 25 seconds between pitches. That's just nuts.

Of course the baseball purists will complain baseball isn't baseball unless the batter has the opportunity to contemplate the meaning of the universe between every pitch.

The article points out that the issue isn't so much the length of an MLB game, but rather the growing infrequency of batted balls (due to bigger/more effective pitchers getting more Ks/game) and basehits (due to analytics-driven defensive shifts) - more time goes by between interesting baseball plays.

If MLB wants more offense then they'll need to reduce the spin on balls (knuckle-ballers aside) - which will require flatter stitching. Pretty simple fix.

Well, I can only speak for myself, but I can deal with the lack of hitting better than having individual at-bats dragging on for so long.

Some pitchers do move really quickly in between pitches, and use it to their advantage to keep batters on edge. Chris Sales comes to mind.
I do think they should implement a pitch clock though. There really isn't any need for anything beyond 15-20 seconds between pitches.

Pwns wrote:

Rob Iola wrote: The article points out that the issue isn't so much the length of an MLB game, but rather the growing infrequency of batted balls (due to bigger/more effective pitchers getting more Ks/game) and basehits (due to analytics-driven defensive shifts) - more time goes by between interesting baseball plays.

If MLB wants more offense then they'll need to reduce the spin on balls (knuckle-ballers aside) - which will require flatter stitching. Pretty simple fix.

Well, I can only speak for myself, but I can deal with the lack of hitting better than having individual at-bats dragging on for so long.

Not for me, I think the bigger issue is the lack of balls put in play per pitch. Way too many strikeouts now and little actual action. Going to the ballpark is great for the ambiance, but the game itself is getting devoid of things to watch.

GannonFan wrote:

Pwns wrote:
Well, I can only speak for myself, but I can deal with the lack of hitting better than having individual at-bats dragging on for so long.

Not for me, I think the bigger issue is the lack of balls put in play per pitch. Way too many strikeouts now and little actual action. Going to the ballpark is great for the ambiance, but the game itself is getting devoid of things to watch.

Aren't home runs on a record pace right now?

Grizalltheway wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
Not for me, I think the bigger issue is the lack of balls put in play per pitch. Way too many strikeouts now and little actual action. Going to the ballpark is great for the ambiance, but the game itself is getting devoid of things to watch.

Aren't home runs on a record pace right now?

Sure, but balls in play I believe are down. Guys are just sitting back and swinging for the fences. It's either a home run or a strikeout these days, from everyone, not just the power hitters.

I love the old slow game. Enjoying a nice afternoon or evening with friends.

Grizalltheway wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
Not for me, I think the bigger issue is the lack of balls put in play per pitch. Way too many strikeouts now and little actual action. Going to the ballpark is great for the ambiance, but the game itself is getting devoid of things to watch.

Aren't home runs on a record pace right now?

I think it has something to do with the team he's watching. Orioles and gNats games are pretty good entertainment.

How much time is spent in the 16 commercial breaks? I'm leaving out the middle of the ninth as the home team does win periodically.

The pitch clock could be an idea with investigating...but what has gotten me is the at-bats that go 10-12 pitches due to the number of fouls...

I watched a game the other day that had 6 at-bats that went over 8 pitches...

In the purist's defense, there is a ton of strategy to calculate between each pitch.

I remember reading Men at Work by George Will probably 30 years ago (or close to it) and he talked about how Tony LaRussa went over hit distribution charts and the pitches they resulted from on every batter in the opposing lineup before games with his pitchers. There really is a whole lot of probability calculation going on between both pitcher (and his catcher and coaches) and hitter (and his coaches) between every pitch.

andy7171 wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote: Aren't home runs on a record pace right now?

I think it has something to do with the team he's watching. Orioles and gNats games are pretty good entertainment.

I would talk shit about the Phillies but they just took 2 off the Mariners at home.

Grizalltheway wrote:

andy7171 wrote: I think it has something to do with the team he's watching. Orioles and gNats games are pretty good entertainment.

I would talk shit about the Phillies but they just took 2 off the Mariners at home.

IN YOUR FACE, WEETAG!!!!

The Phillies will be back, probably by 2030!

The Phillies are the only pro team I root for that's won a championship since McDonalds introduced the Chicken McNugget. I cannot be too hard on them.

93henfan wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote: I would talk shit about the Phillies but they just took 2 off the Mariners at home.

IN YOUR FACE, WEETAG!!!!

The Phillies will be back, probably by 2030!

No thanks, it clogs my pores!

TheDancinMonarch wrote:How much time is spent in the 16 commercial breaks? I'm leaving out the middle of the ninth as the home team does win periodically.

This right here.

When the final out is recorded, there is absolutely no urgency for a team to take the field because there is too much time allotted.

93henfan wrote:In the purist's defense, there is a ton of strategy to calculate between each pitch.

I remember reading Men at Work by George Will probably 30 years ago (or close to it) and he talked about how Tony LaRussa went over hit distribution charts and the pitches they resulted from on every batter in the opposing lineup before games with his pitchers. There really is a whole lot of probability calculation going on between both pitcher (and his catcher and coaches) and hitter (and his coaches) between every pitch.

LaRussa was a primo douchebag. I miss him.

Col Hogan wrote:The pitch clock could be an idea with investigating...but what has gotten me is the at-bats that go 10-12 pitches due to the number of fouls...

I watched a game the other day that had 6 at-bats that went over 8 pitches...

Yeah. It's called "Baseball".

AZGrizFan wrote:

Col Hogan wrote:The pitch clock could be an idea with investigating...but what has gotten me is the at-bats that go 10-12 pitches due to the number of fouls...

I watched a game the other day that had 6 at-bats that went over 8 pitches...

Yeah. It's called "Baseball".

No shit. What are they going to do, 2 fouls and you're out like some slow pitch softball beer league?