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Aaron Rogers is 0-38 (updated)

Postby Chizzang » Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:07 pm

Aaron Rogers is 0-38 when trailing by at least 1 point in the 4th quarter to a team with a winning record

:shock:

The record now moves to Zero - for - 38
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Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-37

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Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-37

Postby AshevilleApp » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:12 pm

Who would think to even check for a state like that? :?

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Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-37

Postby Chizzang » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:33 pm

AshevilleApp wrote:Who would think to even check for a state like that? :?


Anybody who's been watching NFL football for a long time
and noticed...

Hmmm...
for a guy that gets called the greatest QB of all time
he doesn't seem to win many games coming from behind
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Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-37

Postby Gil Dobie » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:06 pm

One game I thought of right away was this one.

1/11/2015 - 13-5 Dallas leads Green Bay 21-20 going into the 4th. Green Bay wins on Rodgers Drive.
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Re: RE: Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-37

Postby clenz » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:15 pm

Gil Dobie wrote:One game I thought of right away was this one.

1/11/2015 - 13-5 Dallas leads Green Bay 21-20 going into the 4th. Green Bay wins on Rodgers Drive.
By more than 1 is the stat

Chiizy got it wrong

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Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-37

Postby UNI88 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:20 pm

I think that you could poke some serious holes in this stat with a little more research.

How many times has Rogers led a comeback to take a lead only to have the GB defense give up another to lose?
Why does it have to be more than a single point lead? That's cherry-picking.

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Re: RE: Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-37

Postby clenz » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:26 pm

UNI88 wrote:I think that you could poke some serious holes in this stat with a little more research.

How many times has Rogers led a comeback to take a lead only to have the GB defense give up another to lose?
Why does it have to be more than a single point lead? That's cherry-picking.
Wanna know how many Brady or Manning have?

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Re: RE: Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-37

Postby Gil Dobie » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:29 pm

clenz wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:One game I thought of right away was this one.

1/11/2015 - 13-5 Dallas leads Green Bay 21-20 going into the 4th. Green Bay wins on Rodgers Drive.
By more than 1 is the stat

Chiizy got it wrong

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Green Bay was actually down 21-13 at one point in the 3rd, a Rodgers drive pulled it to 1 with a couple minutes left in the 3rd.
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Re: RE: Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-37

Postby UNI88 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:42 pm

clenz wrote:
UNI88 wrote:I think that you could poke some serious holes in this stat with a little more research.

How many times has Rogers led a comeback to take a lead only to have the GB defense give up another to lose?
Why does it have to be more than a single point lead? That's cherry-picking.
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Nope. Seems to me like a bunch of jealous fans of other teams trying to pull down a great QB to make themselves feel better. And I'm not a Packer fan.

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-37

Postby clenz » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:53 pm

Which isn't meeting criteria
Gil Dobie wrote:
clenz wrote:By more than 1 is the stat

Chiizy got it wrong

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Green Bay was actually down 21-13 at one point in the 3rd, a Rodgers drive pulled it to 1 with a couple minutes left in the 3rd.


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Re: RE: Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-37

Postby Chizzang » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:43 pm

UNI88 wrote:
clenz wrote:Wanna know how many Brady or Manning have?

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Nope. Seems to me like a bunch of jealous fans of other teams trying to pull down a great QB to make themselves feel better. And I'm not a Packer fan.


oh come on... you drama queen
it's just a stat - it carries with it zero emotion - other than what you bring to it

:lol:

no matter how you want to slice the stat
Zero for 37 of anything football related is worthy of observation

BTW:
Kerry Collins of the NYG made the list (that got my attention)
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Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-37

Postby Gil Dobie » Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:22 am

There are a few time when a Rodgers drive pushed a team from a winning record to a .500 team, which should not count towards the 0-37, because the team had a winning record when Rodgers had the drive. Other cases, they beat the Bears twice in a season to keep them below .500. Even this season, the first game this season, they were down 20-3 to the Bears, to start the 4th. The Bears started the season 0-1, but are now leading the division. But it counts towards 0-37, because at the time the Bears were below or at .500 at that point of the season. If you really look, care and have the time, people can come up with statistical anomalies for anyone.

12/29/2013, 8-7 Bears were up 28-20, Packers had 2 4th Qtr drives to win 33-28, Bears record after the game was 8-8. The drive was against a team with a winning record, but the teams record was 8-8 after the game. Enough time on this.
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Re: RE: Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-37

Postby GannonFan » Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:20 pm

Chizzang wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
Nope. Seems to me like a bunch of jealous fans of other teams trying to pull down a great QB to make themselves feel better. And I'm not a Packer fan.


oh come on... you drama queen
it's just a stat - it carries with it zero emotion - other than what you bring to it

:lol:

no matter how you want to slice the stat
Zero for 37 of anything football related is worthy of observation


Uh, didn't you start this thread with a post that asked people to discuss the stat you threw out there? Seems like they are discussing it just fine, you just don't seem to like the slicing and dicing of the stat that seems to be undermining, or weakening at least, the apparent intent of why you started this thread to begin with. Drama queen indeed. :coffee:
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Re: RE: Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-37

Postby Chizzang » Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:04 pm

GannonFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
oh come on... you drama queen
it's just a stat - it carries with it zero emotion - other than what you bring to it

:lol:

no matter how you want to slice the stat
Zero for 37 of anything football related is worthy of observation


Uh, didn't you start this thread with a post that asked people to discuss the stat you threw out there? Seems like they are discussing it just fine, you just don't seem to like the slicing and dicing of the stat that seems to be undermining, or weakening at least, the apparent intent of why you started this thread to begin with. Drama queen indeed. :coffee:





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Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-38 (revised)

Postby Chizzang » Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:44 pm

With 1:45 left on the clock down by 3 points at home against a two win Cardinals team

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Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-38 (revised)

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Chizzang wrote:With 1:45 left on the clock down by 3 points at home against a two win Cardinals team

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Cardinals win. Former Fordham star Chase Edmonds had both Arizona touchdowns. :thumb:

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Me thinks Bobby Hauck must have become a McCarthy disciple....we were 10-1 after the third quarter this year. :lol:
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Me thinks Bobby Hauck must have become a McCarthy disciple....we were 10-1 after the third quarter this year. :lol:


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Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-38 (updated)

Postby Gil Dobie » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:14 am

Chizzang wrote:Aaron Rogers is 0-38 when trailing by at least 1 point in the 4th quarter to a team with a winning record

:shock:

The record now moves to Zero - for - 38


Arizona didn't have a winning record, why is there an update?
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Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-38 (updated)

Postby Chizzang » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:53 am

Gil Dobie wrote:
Chizzang wrote:Aaron Rogers is 0-38 when trailing by at least 1 point in the 4th quarter to a team with a winning record

:shock:

The record now moves to Zero - for - 38


Arizona didn't have a winning record, why is there an update?


BTW:
The Packers were favored by 13.5 at home in that game that cost McCarthy his job yesterday

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Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-38 (updated)

Postby Gil Dobie » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:15 am

Chizzang wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
Arizona didn't have a winning record, why is there an update?


BTW:
The Packers were favored by 13.5 at home in that game that cost McCarthy his job yesterday

:nod:


Disappointing game.
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Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-38 (updated)

Postby Gil Dobie » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:00 am

Despite Rodgers terrible stats in Green Bay, very few come from behind wins, only 1 Super Bowl victory. I was wondering how a Tom Brady, Russell Wilson, Payton Manning or Drew Brees would have performed statistically with what Rodgers has had to work with in Green Bay. I'm sure they would have some great QB statistics, but would they have won more games than Rodgers with McCarthy, if they played in Green Bay under the same curcumstances?
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Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-38 (updated)

Postby Mvemjsunpx » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:09 am

Aaron Rodgers is a very good quarterback, but he's not the Jesus-like figure that Packers fans & some national analysts like to claim he is. I find it comical how twitter erupts with "GOAT GOAT #GOAT" every time Rodgers completes a somewhat difficult pass.

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Re: Aaron Rogers is 0-38 (updated)

Postby Gil Dobie » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:14 am

Mvemjsunpx wrote:Aaron Rodgers is a very good quarterback, but he's not the Jesus-like figure that Packers fans & some national analysts like to claim he is. I find it comical how twitter erupts with "GOAT GOAT #GOAT" every time Rodgers completes a somewhat difficult pass.


I'm a Packer fan, but I've never said he was the greatest of all time. As we've seen over his career, as Rodgers goes, so do the Packers. That's not true about every QB, every team.
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