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Agreed, game was almost over once it was 14-0. Can't start that way. Can't blame Carson for his though, Lane got burned.93henfan wrote:Can't win games when the Dakota boys fumble on the first two drives.
Absolutely. Carson's wasn't his fault, though he's not setting the world on fire either. The post-game presser suit he chose was his fault though. WTF?GannonFan wrote:Agreed, game was almost over once it was 14-0. Can't start that way. Can't blame Carson for his though, Lane got burned.93henfan wrote:Can't win games when the Dakota boys fumble on the first two drives.
Really?Chizzang wrote:Howie is not the problem...
Its not easy having depth and top quality starters
You win a superbowl and everybody wants to get paid
Meh. Graham did his job on that play, which is impressive for a defensive end 40 lbs heavier than Elliott. He turned him inside like he was supposed to.Chizzang wrote:This move is getting a lot of attention...
Playing those teams in the AFC East is like an extended pre-season. Heck, getting to play those teams three times every 4 years seems too much, I can't imagine when you are stuck playing that slop 6 times every year.93henfan wrote:Nothing like an AFC East cupcake team to get you right again.
Eagles just destroying the 5-1 Bills, 31-13 late.
Man, it must be nice playing the Bills, Jets, and Dolphins for six of your games every year. They're terrible.
It's all there for them, though. You don't have to leave the state for the entire month of November, and then your next road game is a layup in south Florida against the hapless Dolphins. And then you finish the season with 4 NFC East games. The Bears are stumbling, and you get two weeks to prep for the Pats. And the cowboys play a tougher schedule the rest of the way. It hasn't been pretty, and even a division title means a home game with no bye and having to win in either San Fran or New Orleans, or both, but it's better than not being in the hunt at all.Ivytalk wrote:Season saved, for now. Next up are Bears, bye, Pats, and Seahawks. All at home, but not an easy schedule.
The Cleveland Browns announced they have traded pass rusher Genard Avery to the Philadelphia Eagles in exchange for an undisclosed 2021 draft pick.
They picked an appropriate brewery. Mediocre beer for a mediocre team....UNI88 wrote:FlyPA
Eagles and Goose Island ...
https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news ... -champions
Trolling the Patriots with beer. Whatcha got Sam Adams?
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Stodgy is probably a better word than mediocre. But as 89 and I have discussed that's probably true of all successful craft breweries. They become successful and keep doing what got them there while the craft brewing world leaves them behind. Goose Island is a craft brewing pioneer and deserve a little respect though.Winterborn wrote:They picked an appropriate brewery. Mediocre beer for a mediocre team....UNI88 wrote:FlyPA
Eagles and Goose Island ...
https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news ... -champions
Trolling the Patriots with beer. Whatcha got Sam Adams?
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UNI88 wrote:Stodgy is probably a better word than mediocre. But as 89 and I have discussed that's probably true of all successful craft breweries. They become successful and keep doing what got them there while the craft brewing world leaves them behind. Goose Island is a craft brewing pioneer and deserve a little respect though.Winterborn wrote:
They picked an appropriate brewery. Mediocre beer for a mediocre team....
They have brewed some cutting edge beers. Their Bourbon County Stouts were excellent and I'm not a fan of Belgian beer but their Belgian ladies (Sofie, Matilda, etc.) were very popular.
They started the craft brewing movement in Chicago and Chicago has at least 2 things going for it. It has more breweries than any other city in the US (or did less than a year ago) and JBB thinks it's dirty and unsafe.
Goose Island was founded by John Hall, Northern Iowa class of 1964!
Goes with the full beard and wearing flannel. 
I had my first craft beer in the summer of 1985 and have been drinking them ever since.Winterborn wrote:UNI88 wrote:
Stodgy is probably a better word than mediocre. But as 89 and I have discussed that's probably true of all successful craft breweries. They become successful and keep doing what got them there while the craft brewing world leaves them behind. Goose Island is a craft brewing pioneer and deserve a little respect though.
They have brewed some cutting edge beers. Their Bourbon County Stouts were excellent and I'm not a fan of Belgian beer but their Belgian ladies (Sofie, Matilda, etc.) were very popular.
They started the craft brewing movement in Chicago and Chicago has at least 2 things going for it. It has more breweries than any other city in the US (or did less than a year ago) and JBB thinks it's dirty and unsafe.
Goose Island was founded by John Hall, Northern Iowa class of 1964!
If I had know that they were started by a UNI grad I would of said some other things.
Stodgy is a good word to describe their approach. Another word I would use is staid.
Their Bourbon County Stouts were very good. I still have a bottle or two I think somewhere. And their Belgian's are nice and solid examples of the style. Sofia is one I probably enjoy the most out of their Belgium offerings. And I am a big Belgian fan.
Their Pale Ale (Green LIne) and IPA's are pretty average IMHO. Out of a brewery that can make a good Belgium and that understands the process, I was not really impressed with them. Maybe I had too high of expectations. I still drink them every now and then to see if my tastes/opinion will change.
My impression of the brewery is that they are content to produce a good average product that sells well. Which there is nothing wrong with that and I do not have a issue recommending their beer to people getting started with the craft side of things. Both the IPA, 312, and Green Line are nice low key versions of their respective styles. I think the sale to AB/InBev really hurt their creative process and which is why they haven't came out with anything really new in quite some time.
A good brewery is like a good football team. You need to have a few things that you do well and keep in your playbook, but you also have to be able to throw some new stuff in the mix every now and then, otherwise you fall by the wayside.
New Belgium and Rogue are two breweries that I think are good examples of the above. They still put out innovative products while maintaining their core beers.
In full disclosure I am a massive beer snob.
I would be down for that party anytime, anywhere. Would be happy to bring a beer or three to share.UNI88 wrote:
I had my first craft beer in the summer of 1985 and have been drinking them ever since.
You, Pols, 89, Ibanez and I (and a few others that I'm missing) need to get together and bring our favorite beers.
Staid is also a good word and I agree on their IPAs. I think Goose Island was started in 88 so they hit that wall earlier than a lot of brewers but almost all of the successful ones seem to hit it. I remember loving Bell's Two-Hearted when it first came out because it was one of the hoppiest beers around now it barely registers. Dogfish Head was cutting edge for longer than most but they seem to have slipped into complacency. My favorite beers are IPAs and creamy porters/stouts so I'm not a fan of New Belgium and Rogue is ok. Stone has probably stayed at the edge the longest in recent memory.
Correct me if I'm wrong here...GannonFan wrote:Playing those teams in the AFC East is like an extended pre-season. Heck, getting to play those teams three times every 4 years seems too much, I can't imagine when you are stuck playing that slop 6 times every year.93henfan wrote:Nothing like an AFC East cupcake team to get you right again.
Eagles just destroying the 5-1 Bills, 31-13 late.
Man, it must be nice playing the Bills, Jets, and Dolphins for six of your games every year. They're terrible.
I can only call the games I watch, and the Eagles just breezed through the Jets and 5-1 Bills like it was a scrimmage with a local junior college. You know, kind of like the Patriots do six times per year. It's a great situation for them.Chizzang wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong here...GannonFan wrote:
Playing those teams in the AFC East is like an extended pre-season. Heck, getting to play those teams three times every 4 years seems too much, I can't imagine when you are stuck playing that slop 6 times every year.
but aren't the AFC East and the NFC East 4 and 4 against each other this season..?
So I'm going to need you to explain more about how that works
Seems like a great situation for the Eagles as well93henfan wrote:I can only call the games I watch, and the Eagles just breezed through the Jets and 5-1 Bills like it was a scrimmage with a local junior college. You know, kind of like the Patriots do six times per year. It's a great situation for them.Chizzang wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong here...
but aren't the AFC East and the NFC East 4 and 4 against each other this season..?
So I'm going to need you to explain more about how that works
Chizzang wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong here...GannonFan wrote:
Playing those teams in the AFC East is like an extended pre-season. Heck, getting to play those teams three times every 4 years seems too much, I can't imagine when you are stuck playing that slop 6 times every year.
but aren't the AFC East and the NFC East 4 and 4 against each other this season..?
So I'm going to need you to explain more about how that works
and while you're at it
explain why the AFC east has won more games that any other division since the realignment
That is not true, the AFC West is the only division with all 4 teams over.500 all time. The NFC East has the best total playoff record.
css75 wrote:So you're saying Chizzy might be wrong? I mean, this topic doesn't involve Comcast, so it is likely Chizzy doesn't know what he's talking about.Chizzang wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong here...
but aren't the AFC East and the NFC East 4 and 4 against each other this season..?
So I'm going to need you to explain more about how that works
and while you're at it
explain why the AFC east has won more games that any other division since the realignment
That is not true, the AFC West is the only division with all 4 teams over.500 all time. The NFC East has the best total playoff record.
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