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Who is better in their respective sport?

Michael Jordan - 6 Rings in 8 years, 6 x MVP, 6 x Finals MVP

Tom Brady - 6 Rings in 17 years, 3 x MVP, 4 x Super Bowl MVP

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Stupid comparison its much harder to win football games, they have 10 other failure points/people that can bring you down. Basketball has only 4.

Much easier for a good basketball player to win games than a QB.

That being said if you just compare greatness and ability to do the job its Brady hands down.

AZGrizFan wrote:Tiger Woods

You could make an argument for several other golfers too.

Gil Dobie wrote:Who is better in their respective sport?

Michael Jordan - 6 Rings in 8 years, 6 x MVP, 6 x Finals MVP

Tom Brady - 6 Rings in 17 years, 3 x MVP, 6 x Super Bowl MVP

Tom Brady is a 4 x Super Bowl MVP: 2002, 2004, 2015 & 2017

89Hen wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:Tiger Woods

You could make an argument for several other golfers too.

Like that Arnold Daly Garcia fella?

If Brady is so great, then why is it that the Pats are always so much better in December and January than September?

Why are guys like Julian Edelman fairly average during the season and put on pro-bowl performances in the playoffs?

Why do they shut down so many good offenses in the Super Bowl?

Brady is good, but come on. These are all signs of a management and coaching staff that does a good job of building schemes around their players.

Ibanez wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:Who is better in their respective sport?

Michael Jordan - 6 Rings in 8 years, 6 x MVP, 6 x Finals MVP

Tom Brady - 6 Rings in 17 years, 3 x MVP, 6 x Super Bowl MVP

Tom Brady is a 4 x Super Bowl MVP: 2002, 2004, 2015 & 2017

Updated, Thanks

89Hen wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:Tiger Woods

You could make an argument for several other golfers too.

I'd legitimately put Tiger above all three of those. But he's not at the top of the list.

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Stupid comparison its much harder to win football games, they have 10 other failure points/people that can bring you down. Basketball has only 4.

Much easier for a good basketball player to win games than a QB.

That being said if you just compare greatness and ability to do the job its Brady hands down.

Brady has about 6 minutes of action in a game, and controls most of it. Jordan had nearly 40 minutes of game action. Both relied on other players to help win. Football is one game and done, basketball is best of 7.

Jordan averaged 33 ppg during the playoffs.

Gil Dobie wrote:

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Stupid comparison its much harder to win football games, they have 10 other failure points/people that can bring you down. Basketball has only 4.

Much easier for a good basketball player to win games than a QB.

That being said if you just compare greatness and ability to do the job its Brady hands down.

Brady has about 6 minutes of action in a game, and controls most of it. Jordan had nearly 40 minutes of game action. Both relied on other players to help win. Football is one game and done, basketball is best of 7.

Jordan averaged 33 ppg during the playoffs.

I think what you were trying to say is the Brady can't sniff Jordans jock.

Jordan is simply the GOAT. He's the cock of the walk.

Ibanez wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:
Brady has about 6 minutes of action in a game, and controls most of it. Jordan had nearly 40 minutes of game action. Both relied on other players to help win. Football is one game and done, basketball is best of 7.

Jordan averaged 33 ppg during the playoffs.

I think what you were trying to say is the Brady can't sniff Jordans jock.

Jordan is simply the GOAT. He's the cock of the walk.

Yuppers. Brady gets a ton of help that goes unheralded. Seems to have really good offensive lines in front of him most of the time. Jordan left the Bulls to play baseball and the Bulls didn't win a title again until he came back. Just sayin.

GannonFan wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
I think what you were trying to say is the Brady can't sniff Jordans jock.

Jordan is simply the GOAT. He's the cock of the walk.

Yuppers. Brady gets a ton of help that goes unheralded. Seems to have really good offensive lines in front of him most of the time. Jordan left the Bulls to play baseball and the Bulls didn't win a title again until he came back. Just sayin.

You could insert any top-tier QB from the last 30 years and probably get the same results.

Gretzky

AshevilleApp wrote:Gretzky

What about Lemieux?

All of these could be in the conversation, in no particular order:

Tom Brady
Michael Jordan
Tiger Woods
Jack Nicklaus
Wayne Gretzky
Roger Federer
Greg Maddux
Babe Ruth
Hussein Bolt
Joe Montana
Terry Bradshaw
Bill Russell
Kobe Bryant
Pele
Jim Brown
Walter Payton

I mean, the list goes on and on. And like music, beer or anything else, there is no right or wrong answer.

Some other greats:

Michael Phelps (23 gold, 3 silver, 2 bronze)
Floyd Mayweather Jr. (50-0, 27 KO)
Rocky Marciano (49-0, 43 KO)
Richard Petty (200 wins, 7 full-season championships)

As far as 4 major sport GOATS, I go:
1. Jordan
2. Ruth
3. Gretzky
4. Brady

Curious how you would compare Brady to Bart Starr. Both played for great teams and both had great coaches. Starr won 5 rings in 7 years. It was a different game back then, but Starr was good at what he did. Many would say Johnny Unitas was the best QB during that time, he did win 3 titles. Do you judge players by their ability or how many championships they've won. Bill Russell led the Celtics to more championship than any of them, but played in the shadows of Wilt Chamberlain.

Grizalltheway wrote:

AshevilleApp wrote:Gretzky

What about Lemieux?

LeWHO?

Gretsky, is the single greatest player in any team sport ever. Its not even arguable how dominant he was.

93henfan wrote:Some other greats:

Michael Phelps (23 gold, 3 silver, 2 bronze)
Floyd Mayweather Jr. (50-0, 27 KO)
Rocky Marciano (49-0, 43 KO)
Richard Petty (200 wins, 7 full-season championships)

As far as 4 major sport GOATS, I go:
1. Jordan
2. Ruth
3. Gretzky
4. Brady

You got half of that right with Gretzky and Brady

93henfan wrote:Some other greats:

Michael Phelps (23 gold, 3 silver, 2 bronze)
Floyd Mayweather Jr. (50-0, 27 KO)
Rocky Marciano (49-0, 43 KO)
Richard Petty (200 wins, 7 full-season championships)

As far as 4 major sport GOATS, I go:
1. Jordan
2. Ruth
3. Gretzky
4. Brady

Yep. 4 more great names.

Grizalltheway wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
Yuppers. Brady gets a ton of help that goes unheralded. Seems to have really good offensive lines in front of him most of the time. Jordan left the Bulls to play baseball and the Bulls didn't win a title again until he came back. Just sayin.

You could insert any top-tier QB from the last 30 years and probably get the same results.

I wouldn't go that far. I'm convinced that Brett Favre was wildly overrated. I'm sure he would've found some way to force a pass and turn the ball over in a critical spot and not win nearly as many as Brady did.

AZGrizFan wrote:All of these could be in the conversation, in no particular order:

Tom Brady
Michael Jordan
Tiger Woods
Jack Nicklaus
Wayne Gretzky
Roger Federer
Greg Maddux
Babe Ruth
Hussein Bolt
Joe Montana
Terry Bradshaw
Bill Russell
Kobe Bryant
Pele
Jim Brown
Walter Payton

I mean, the list goes on and on. And like music, beer or anything else, there is no right or wrong answer.

Slow day at the Credit Union?

GannonFan wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote: You could insert any top-tier QB from the last 30 years and probably get the same results.

I wouldn't go that far. I'm convinced that Brett Favre was wildly overrated. I'm sure he would've found some way to force a pass and turn the ball over in a critical spot and not win nearly as many as Brady did.

He was who we thought he was. He will win you a bunch of games, but throw away a few and break your heart. Without Favre the Packers are luck to get to 8-8 during his years.

AZGrizFan wrote:All of these could be in the conversation, in no particular order:

Tom Brady
Michael Jordan
Tiger Woods
Jack Nicklaus
Wayne Gretzky
Roger Federer
Greg Maddux
Babe Ruth
Hussein Bolt
Joe Montana
Terry Bradshaw
Bill Russell
Kobe Bryant
Pele
Jim Brown
Walter Payton

I mean, the list goes on and on. And like music, beer or anything else, there is no right or wrong answer.

Usain Bolt...