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Re: 2019 NFL Draft Official Thread

Postby UNI88 » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:30 am

Eagles pick up TJ Edwards. I coached against him when he was in 8th grade. Good kid & player, height probably held him back but he has the guts to make it.

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Re: 2019 NFL Draft Official Thread

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So has our coaching this decade.


Yet your program is light years ahead of Montanas, I guess you ECMFs have to have one thing worth a damn out there. :coffee:
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft Official Thread

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So has our coaching this decade.


Yet your program is light years ahead of Montanas, I guess you ECMFs have to have one thing worth a damn out there. :coffee:


If by "light years ahead of" you mean "equally as shitty as", I completely agree.

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Re: 2019 NFL Draft Official Thread

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Yet your program is light years ahead of Montanas, I guess you ECMFs have to have one thing worth a damn out there. :coffee:


If by "light years ahead of" you mean "equally as shitty as", I completely agree.


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Re: 2019 NFL Draft Official Thread

Postby dal4018 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:03 am

Quinton Bell and Joshua Miles were taken in the 7th round.

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Re: 2019 NFL Draft Official Thread

Postby BDKJMU » Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:51 pm

It might have been a lean year for I-AA, when in the pasts its been 15-20 draftees, but how would you like to be the Sun Belt..
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Postby dbackjon » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:15 pm

BDKJMU wrote:It might have been a lean year for I-AA, when in the pasts its been 15-20 draftees, but how would you like to be the Sun Belt..
CAA 3
MVFC 3
MEAC 2
OVC: 2
SWAC 2
Big Sky: 1
Sunbelt 1 (6th round) :lol:



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Re: 2019 NFL Draft Official Thread

Postby CAA Flagship » Wed May 01, 2019 7:38 am

The talented but underachieving (I blame coaches) senior class at Old Dominion:

2 drafted (3rd and 6th rounds)
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft Official Thread

Postby Ibanez » Wed May 01, 2019 7:45 am

BDKJMU wrote:It might have been a lean year for I-AA, when in the pasts its been 15-20 draftees, but how would you like to be the Sun Belt..
CAA 3
MVFC 3
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OVC: 2
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How many received an invite afterwards to a mini-camp? I think CCU had 2-3 players going.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft Official Thread

Postby BDKJMU » Wed May 01, 2019 9:15 am

Ibanez wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:It might have been a lean year for I-AA, when in the pasts its been 15-20 draftees, but how would you like to be the Sun Belt..
CAA 3
MVFC 3
MEAC 2
OVC: 2
SWAC 2
Big Sky: 1
Sunbelt 1 (6th round) :lol:

How many received an invite afterwards to a mini-camp? I think CCU had 2-3 players going.

Rookie minicamp invites don’t mean much. Most of those don’t even get UDFA contracts to get into camp. As I understand it:
-256ish drafted (7 rounds x 32 per round + around 32 supplemental)..
-500ish? UDFA (it seems to be around 15 a team give or take right after the draft..
-1,000ish? rookie minicamp invites. Its definitely way more than get a UDFA right after the draft, and only a fraction of those with rookie minicamp invites will get a UDFA to get into camp, and then only a fraction of them will make a roster..

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Re: 2019 NFL Draft Official Thread

Postby Ibanez » Wed May 01, 2019 9:28 am

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Ibanez wrote:How many received an invite afterwards to a mini-camp? I think CCU had 2-3 players going.

Rookie minicamp invites don’t mean much. Most of those don’t even get UDFA contracts to get into camp. As I understand it:
-256ish drafted (7 rounds x 32 per round + around 32 supplemental)..
-500ish? UDFA (it seems to be around 15 a team give or take right after the draft..
-1,000ish? rookie minicamp invites. Its definitely way more than get a UDFA right after the draft, and only a fraction of those with rookie minicamp invites will get a UDFA to get into camp, and then only a fraction of them will make a roster..

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Re: 2019 NFL Draft Official Thread

Postby JohnStOnge » Sat May 04, 2019 8:13 pm

BDKJMU wrote:It might have been a lean year for I-AA, when in the pasts its been 15-20 draftees, but how would you like to be the Sun Belt..
CAA 3
MVFC 3
MEAC 2
OVC: 2
SWAC 2
Big Sky: 1
Sunbelt 1 (6th round) :lol:


Louisiana Monroe had the only one. That is one School that had more talent as a I-AA than it's had as a I-A/FBS. During the drafts following the 12 years during which the school, then Northeast Louisiana, had I-AA teams it had 15 players drafted. One has to adjust because some where in the 8th round. But they had 10 drafted in the first 7 rounds. The last two I-AA years were 1992 and 1993. They had 2 players drafted from the 1992 team and 3 players drafted from the 1993 team in the first 7 rounds. The two running backs they had in 1992 both started in the NFL as rookies in 1993. One was drafted in the 8th round so he'd be a free agent today.

Nobody in the Sun Belt now has that kind of talent relative to the rest of college football. And since Northeast Louisiana/Louisiana Monroe went I-A/FBS it's had 10 players drafted from 25 years worth of teams. Another indicator it that as a I-AA Northeast Louisiana had three teams with multiple players drafted from them during 7 rounds. They were 1987 (2), 1992 (2), and 1993 (3). Since they've gone I-A/FBS it's only happened once. That was the 1998 team (2).
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft Official Thread

Postby BDKJMU » Sun May 05, 2019 9:39 am

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BDKJMU wrote:It might have been a lean year for I-AA, when in the pasts its been 15-20 draftees, but how would you like to be the Sun Belt..
CAA 3
MVFC 3
MEAC 2
OVC: 2
SWAC 2
Big Sky: 1
Sunbelt 1 (6th round) :lol:


Louisiana Monroe had the only one. That is one School that had more talent as a I-AA than it's had as a I-A/FBS. During the drafts following the 12 years during which the school, then Northeast Louisiana, had I-AA teams it had 15 players drafted. One has to adjust because some where in the 8th round. But they had 10 drafted in the first 7 rounds. The last two I-AA years were 1992 and 1993. They had 2 players drafted from the 1992 team and 3 players drafted from the 1993 team in the first 7 rounds. The two running backs they had in 1992 both started in the NFL as rookies in 1993. One was drafted in the 8th round so he'd be a free agent today.

Nobody in the Sun Belt now has that kind of talent relative to the rest of college football. And since Northeast Louisiana/Louisiana Monroe went I-A/FBS it's had 10 players drafted from 25 years worth of teams. Another indicator it that as a I-AA Northeast Louisiana had three teams with multiple players drafted from them during 7 rounds. They were 1987 (2), 1992 (2), and 1993 (3). Since they've gone I-A/FBS it's only happened once. That was the 1998 team (2).


The NE LA player taken in the 8th round of the 1993 draft was taken with the 197th pick.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_
The 197th pick last week was a 6th rounder. So no, that NE LA player wouldn’t have been a free agent today.

1992, the last year of a 12 round draft (was at 7 rounds 1994) had 252 player selected in the 1st 9 rounds.
2019 draft had 256 players selected in 7 rounds. You had 32 supplemental picks, which you didn’t have back then, which is like having an extra round (8 rounds x 32 teams = 256 picks. Then add the fact that you have 4 more teams than back then, and the 7th round draft now = about 9 rounds from back when it was a 12 round draft.

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Postby JohnStOnge » Sun May 05, 2019 7:52 pm

BDKJMU wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
Louisiana Monroe had the only one. That is one School that had more talent as a I-AA than it's had as a I-A/FBS. During the drafts following the 12 years during which the school, then Northeast Louisiana, had I-AA teams it had 15 players drafted. One has to adjust because some where in the 8th round. But they had 10 drafted in the first 7 rounds. The last two I-AA years were 1992 and 1993. They had 2 players drafted from the 1992 team and 3 players drafted from the 1993 team in the first 7 rounds. The two running backs they had in 1992 both started in the NFL as rookies in 1993. One was drafted in the 8th round so he'd be a free agent today.

Nobody in the Sun Belt now has that kind of talent relative to the rest of college football. And since Northeast Louisiana/Louisiana Monroe went I-A/FBS it's had 10 players drafted from 25 years worth of teams. Another indicator it that as a I-AA Northeast Louisiana had three teams with multiple players drafted from them during 7 rounds. They were 1987 (2), 1992 (2), and 1993 (3). Since they've gone I-A/FBS it's only happened once. That was the 1998 team (2).


The NE LA player taken in the 8th round of the 1993 draft was taken with the 197th pick.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_
The 197th pick last week was a 6th rounder. So no, that NE LA player wouldn’t have been a free agent today.

1992, the last year of a 12 round draft (was at 7 rounds 1994) had 252 player selected in the 1st 9 rounds.
2019 draft had 256 players selected in 7 rounds. You had 32 supplemental picks, which you didn’t have back then, which is like having an extra round (8 rounds x 32 teams = 256 picks. Then add the fact that you have 4 more teams than back then, and the 7th round draft now = about 9 rounds from back when it was a 12 round draft.


Interesting. Well, they were I-AA 1982 through 1993. So that means the 1983 through 1994 NFL drafts. During those drafts they had 14 players drafted in the first 8 rounds and one more drafted in the 10th. They had four drafted in the top 8 rounds in 1993 and three in the top 8 rounds in 1994.

Actually I think they were kind of an underachieving program. Like people think of Marshall as having been a very talented I-AA program but they had 4 players drafted during the same period. Georgia Southern had 5. Youngstown State had 5. Montana had 5. But except for 1987 Northeast Louisiana tended to lay eggs during the playoffs.
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Packers signed NDSU's Darius Shepherd out of Mini-camp. The next Randall Cobb, well maybe.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
The NE LA player taken in the 8th round of the 1993 draft was taken with the 197th pick.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_
The 197th pick last week was a 6th rounder. So no, that NE LA player wouldn’t have been a free agent today.

1992, the last year of a 12 round draft (was at 7 rounds 1994) had 252 player selected in the 1st 9 rounds.
2019 draft had 256 players selected in 7 rounds. You had 32 supplemental picks, which you didn’t have back then, which is like having an extra round (8 rounds x 32 teams = 256 picks. Then add the fact that you have 4 more teams than back then, and the 7th round draft now = about 9 rounds from back when it was a 12 round draft.


Interesting. Well, they were I-AA 1982 through 1993. So that means the 1983 through 1994 NFL drafts. During those drafts they had 14 players drafted in the first 8 rounds and one more drafted in the 10th. They had four drafted in the top 8 rounds in 1993 and three in the top 8 rounds in 1994.

Actually I think they were kind of an underachieving program. Like people think of Marshall as having been a very talented I-AA program but they had 4 players drafted during the same period. Georgia Southern had 5. Youngstown State had 5. Montana had 5. But except for 1987 Northeast Louisiana tended to lay eggs during the playoffs.


Delaware laid a whooping on them back in '92 down there when they had Roosevelt Potts and another good RB. They had never seen the Wing-T and it killed them. Those NE La teams always had holes that got exposed in the playoffs. But that was a tough era for the Southland (and the Yankee too so not just picking on the Southland)- the Southern was in their heyday, Montana was just coming on the scene with Dickenson, and you still had some good indies out there like YSU.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft Official Thread

Postby BDKJMU » Mon May 06, 2019 2:52 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
Interesting. Well, they were I-AA 1982 through 1993. So that means the 1983 through 1994 NFL drafts. During those drafts they had 14 players drafted in the first 8 rounds and one more drafted in the 10th. They had four drafted in the top 8 rounds in 1993 and three in the top 8 rounds in 1994.

Actually I think they were kind of an underachieving program. Like people think of Marshall as having been a very talented I-AA program but they had 4 players drafted during the same period. Georgia Southern had 5. Youngstown State had 5. Montana had 5. But except for 1987 Northeast Louisiana tended to lay eggs during the playoffs.

Marshall‘s heyday wasn‘t 1982-1993 though. It was 1991-1996. That‘s when they made the NC game 5 x in 6 seasons, winning 2. The only season of those 6 they didn’t make it, 1994, they made the semis. 6 straight seasons of making at least the semis was the record until NDSU broke it. BTW Marshall’s DC back then (1990-1995) was former JMU HC Mickey Matthews.

Only 4 Marshall players were drafted who played at Marshall during that 1991-1996 heyday, but 3 were 1st rounders, and all 4, + 2 UDFA, had big time NFL careers.
-Troy Vincent: WR, 1993 8th Rd, 15 seasons NFL, 2001 Pro Bowl, 2001 All Pro, played 3 Super Bowls.
-Mike Bartrum, Long Snapper/TE, 1993 UDFA, 13 seasons NFL, made 1 Pro Bowl
-John Wade: Center, 1998 5th Rd, 12 seasons NFL.
-Randy Moss: 1998 1st Rd, 15 seasons. FL, 6x Pro Bowl, 4x 1st team All Pro, NFL Offensive Rookie of Yr, Most Receiving TDs by Rookie, Most Receiving TDs in a season, 5 seasons led NFL in receiving TDs, NFL All Decade Team, etc, etc.
-Chris Hanson, Punter, 1999 UDFA, 11 seasons NFL, 2002 Pro Bowl & All Pro.
-Chad Pennington, 2000 1st Rd (started 1995 NC season, redshirted 1996), 11 seasons NFL.
They had a couple others from 1991-1996 who made teams as UDFA, and had brief stints in the NFL.

I think that 1996 Marshall team, their last in I-AA, was the best ever at the I-AA level. LOADED. Not only did they go 15-0, but they DESTROYED almost every team they played, and Moss was a MAN AMONG BOYS out there. Was almost comical. And in 1997, their 1st year in I-A, with those same I-AA players, went 10-3.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft Official Thread

Postby JohnStOnge » Mon May 06, 2019 6:28 pm

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Delaware laid a whooping on them back in '92 down there when they had Roosevelt Potts and another good RB. They had never seen the Wing-T and it killed them. Those NE La teams always had holes that got exposed in the playoffs. But that was a tough era for the Southland (and the Yankee too so not just picking on the Southland)-


That was actually a relatively good era for the Southland. Northeast Louisiana was the only one that won a national title but during 1984 through 1989 the Southland had four different programs make the championship game.
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