The Biggest Surprise of the NFL season (2019)
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The Biggest Surprise of the NFL season (2019)
Can also be biggest let down...
So far:
This week for me it's the Oakland Raiders
No Amari Cooper / No Mack / still playing winning football
So far:
This week for me it's the Oakland Raiders
No Amari Cooper / No Mack / still playing winning football
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Re: The Biggest Surprise of the NFL season (2019)
The biggest non-surprise is the Redskins.
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Re: The Biggest Surprise of the NFL season (2019)
Hey. Whore mouth. Shut it.93henfan wrote:The biggest non-surprise is the Redskins.
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Re: The Biggest Surprise of the NFL season (2019)
CAA Flagship wrote:Hey. Whore mouth. Shut it.93henfan wrote:The biggest non-surprise is the Redskins.
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Broncos 1-4, should be no worse than 3-2.
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Re: The Biggest Surprise of the NFL season (2019)
Every team in the NFC Norse division has a winning record.
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Re: The Biggest Surprise of the NFL season (2019)
Gil Dobie wrote:Every team in the NFC Norse division has a winning record.
The Lions... (that is interesting)
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Re: The Biggest Surprise of the NFL season (2019)
So sad and yet so true!93henfan wrote:The biggest non-surprise is the Redskins.
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I truly wonder if they can ever seriously compete again under the current owner.TheDancinMonarch wrote:So sad and yet so true!93henfan wrote:The biggest non-surprise is the Redskins.
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Every once in a while they can get lucky when all the stars align. But hard to see them becoming consistently competitive any time soon.93henfan wrote:I truly wonder if they can ever seriously compete again under the current owner.TheDancinMonarch wrote:
So sad and yet so true!
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Patricia vs O'Brien, who will be the most successful Belichek disciple?Chizzang wrote:Gil Dobie wrote:Every team in the NFC Norse division has a winning record.
The Lions... (that is interesting)
And why does the maybe the greatest coach in NFL history have such a stunted coaching tree?
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During the '70s, people wondered that quite often about Tom Landry, quite possibly the best coach in NFL history, having only Dick Nolan as a "disciple-turned-head coach" at SF and then NO. It wasn't until later that guys like Dan Reeves and Danny White became head coaches (though in White's case, it was in the Arena League, founding the Arizona Rattlers and then the Utah Blaze; just like Landry, White got the royal screw job from ownership in Arizona, leading to his founding of the Blaze). There have probably been a few more since then, but it was falsely chalked up to the perception that "The Great Stone Face" didn't delegate authority well. That in and of itself is bogus, because he DID have a player-coach on his staff (Reeves), just as he himself was a player-coach (actually DC at age 29) with the NY Giants. A HC with power-control issues likely wouldn't trust a player to simultaneously serve as an assistant coach. (Actually, if I were Belichick, I would consider naming Brady player-coach in charge of QBs, and within a couple of years widen his scope to OC, to prepare him for life after playing. Even if Brady were to break George Blanda's longevity record, he's still going to have to do SOMETHING after. Forty-eight or forty-nine is WAY too young to just do NOTHING all day, and he's too competitive for that, anyway....)UNI88 wrote:And why does the maybe the greatest coach in NFL history have such a stunted coaching tree?
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Dude... seriouslySuperHornet wrote:During the '70s, people wondered that quite often about Tom Landry, quite possibly the best coach in NFL history, having only Dick Nolan as a "disciple-turned-head coach" at SF and then NO. It wasn't until later that guys like Dan Reeves and Danny White became head coaches (though in White's case, it was in the Arena League, founding the Arizona Rattlers and then the Utah Blaze; just like Landry, White got the royal screw job from ownership in Arizona, leading to his founding of the Blaze). There have probably been a few more since then, but it was falsely chalked up to the perception that "The Great Stone Face" didn't delegate authority well. That in and of itself is bogus, because he DID have a player-coach on his staff (Reeves), just as he himself was a player-coach (actually DC at age 29) with the NY Giants. A HC with power-control issues likely wouldn't trust a player to simultaneously serve as an assistant coach. (Actually, if I were Belichick, I would consider naming Brady player-coach in charge of QBs, and within a couple of years widen his scope to OC, to prepare him for life after playing. Even if Brady were to break George Blanda's longevity record, he's still going to have to do SOMETHING after. Forty-eight or forty-nine is WAY too young to just do NOTHING all day, and he's too competitive for that, anyway....)UNI88 wrote:And why does the maybe the greatest coach in NFL history have such a stunted coaching tree?
Tom Landry might not even be in the top ten in the history of NFL coaches
Nobody in their right mind suggests that Tom Landry is quite possibly be the best coach in NFL history
Hell they replaced him with a guy that almost immediately had more success
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True, now what about Hoody's stunted coaching tree?Chizzang wrote:Dude... seriouslySuperHornet wrote:
During the '70s, people wondered that quite often about Tom Landry, quite possibly the best coach in NFL history, having only Dick Nolan as a "disciple-turned-head coach" at SF and then NO. It wasn't until later that guys like Dan Reeves and Danny White became head coaches (though in White's case, it was in the Arena League, founding the Arizona Rattlers and then the Utah Blaze; just like Landry, White got the royal screw job from ownership in Arizona, leading to his founding of the Blaze). There have probably been a few more since then, but it was falsely chalked up to the perception that "The Great Stone Face" didn't delegate authority well. That in and of itself is bogus, because he DID have a player-coach on his staff (Reeves), just as he himself was a player-coach (actually DC at age 29) with the NY Giants. A HC with power-control issues likely wouldn't trust a player to simultaneously serve as an assistant coach. (Actually, if I were Belichick, I would consider naming Brady player-coach in charge of QBs, and within a couple of years widen his scope to OC, to prepare him for life after playing. Even if Brady were to break George Blanda's longevity record, he's still going to have to do SOMETHING after. Forty-eight or forty-nine is WAY too young to just do NOTHING all day, and he's too competitive for that, anyway....)
Tom Landry might not even be in the top ten in the history of NFL coaches
Nobody in their right mind suggests that Tom Landry is quite possibly be the best coach in NFL history
Hell they replaced him with a guy that almost immediately had more success
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I’m 48 and I’m perfectly willing to do nothing all day.SuperHornet wrote:During the '70s, people wondered that quite often about Tom Landry, quite possibly the best coach in NFL history, having only Dick Nolan as a "disciple-turned-head coach" at SF and then NO. It wasn't until later that guys like Dan Reeves and Danny White became head coaches (though in White's case, it was in the Arena League, founding the Arizona Rattlers and then the Utah Blaze; just like Landry, White got the royal screw job from ownership in Arizona, leading to his founding of the Blaze). There have probably been a few more since then, but it was falsely chalked up to the perception that "The Great Stone Face" didn't delegate authority well. That in and of itself is bogus, because he DID have a player-coach on his staff (Reeves), just as he himself was a player-coach (actually DC at age 29) with the NY Giants. A HC with power-control issues likely wouldn't trust a player to simultaneously serve as an assistant coach. (Actually, if I were Belichick, I would consider naming Brady player-coach in charge of QBs, and within a couple of years widen his scope to OC, to prepare him for life after playing. Even if Brady were to break George Blanda's longevity record, he's still going to have to do SOMETHING after. Forty-eight or forty-nine is WAY too young to just do NOTHING all day, and he's too competitive for that, anyway....)UNI88 wrote:And why does the maybe the greatest coach in NFL history have such a stunted coaching tree?
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This!kalm wrote:I’m 48 and I’m perfectly willing to do nothing all day.SuperHornet wrote:
During the '70s, people wondered that quite often about Tom Landry, quite possibly the best coach in NFL history, having only Dick Nolan as a "disciple-turned-head coach" at SF and then NO. It wasn't until later that guys like Dan Reeves and Danny White became head coaches (though in White's case, it was in the Arena League, founding the Arizona Rattlers and then the Utah Blaze; just like Landry, White got the royal screw job from ownership in Arizona, leading to his founding of the Blaze). There have probably been a few more since then, but it was falsely chalked up to the perception that "The Great Stone Face" didn't delegate authority well. That in and of itself is bogus, because he DID have a player-coach on his staff (Reeves), just as he himself was a player-coach (actually DC at age 29) with the NY Giants. A HC with power-control issues likely wouldn't trust a player to simultaneously serve as an assistant coach. (Actually, if I were Belichick, I would consider naming Brady player-coach in charge of QBs, and within a couple of years widen his scope to OC, to prepare him for life after playing. Even if Brady were to break George Blanda's longevity record, he's still going to have to do SOMETHING after. Forty-eight or forty-nine is WAY too young to just do NOTHING all day, and he's too competitive for that, anyway....)
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Those.93henfan wrote:This!kalm wrote:
I’m 48 and I’m perfectly willing to do nothing all day.
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Heck if I know...UNI88 wrote:True, now what about Hoody's stunted coaching tree?Chizzang wrote:
Dude... seriously
Tom Landry might not even be in the top ten in the history of NFL coaches
Nobody in their right mind suggests that Tom Landry is quite possibly be the best coach in NFL history
Hell they replaced him with a guy that almost immediately had more success
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It's the biggest knock on his legacy so it's fun to keep pointing it out.Chizzang wrote:Heck if I know...UNI88 wrote:True, now what about Hoody's stunted coaching tree?
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Why is it a knock on him..?UNI88 wrote:It's the biggest knock on his legacy so it's fun to keep pointing it out.Chizzang wrote:
Heck if I know...
A great example of Bilichick is Dean Pees
Pees was a coach for years bouncing around - then he spends 5 years with the Patriots
Learns their defensive system and is still running it today
and he handed it - on a silver platter - to the Baltimore Ravens 8 years ago
and Harbaugh still runs that defensive system to this day
and now Pees is in Tennessee
and they have adopted the Bilichick defensive system
and pees showed that same system to Matt leFleur
now LeFleaur in Green bay runs that defensive system this year
Check the Titans / Ravens / and Green Bay defenses
as well as the Patriots defense
what do they all have in common ?
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So he's spun off one successful assistant coach? How many successful head coaches?Chizzang wrote:Why is it a knock on him..?UNI88 wrote:
It's the biggest knock on his legacy so it's fun to keep pointing it out.
A great example of Bilichick is Dean Pees
Pees was a coach for years bouncing around - then he spends 5 years with the Patriots
Learns their defensive system and is still running it today
and he handed it - on a silver platter - to the Baltimore Ravens 8 years ago
and Harbaugh still runs that defensive system to this day
and now Pees is in Tennessee
and they have adopted the Bilichick defensive system
and pees showed that same system to Matt leFleur
now LeFleaur in Green bay runs that defensive system this year
Check the Titans / Ravens / and Green Bay defenses
as well as the Patriots defense
what do they all have in common ?
How does the Belichek tree compare to Bill Walsh's?
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Andy Reid's coaching tree has two more Super Bowls than Andy Reid.
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Andy Reid isn't as good of a coach but he's a better mentor than Belichek. Questions to consider:93henfan wrote:Andy Reid's coaching tree has two more Super Bowls than Andy Reid.
- If your team was in the market for a new head coach, who would be a better candidate? Josh McDaniel or Eric Bieniemy?
- If your kid was going into coaching who would you rather he worked for?
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You might want to read up on Andy Reid's sons. One OD'ed on smack at Eagles training camp. One rammed am old lady on the street and took off while the other got in a road rage incident and pulled a gun on some guy. Both were high as a kite and were major druggies.UNI88 wrote:Andy Reid isn't as good of a coach but he's a better mentor than Belichek. Questions to consider:93henfan wrote:Andy Reid's coaching tree has two more Super Bowls than Andy Reid.
- If your team was in the market for a new head coach, who would be a better candidate? Josh McDaniel or Eric Bieniemy?
- If your kid was going into coaching who would you rather he worked for?
He knows how to raise kids!
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