2020 Baseball Hall of Fame Voting

[Gil Dobie]

Looks like Jeter will make it, Larry Walker is looking good in his last year for voting. Schilling, Bonds and Clemens have a chance as 75% is needed with 113 of 412 ballots in.

Current Announced Voting According to Ryan Thibodaux's Baseball Hall of Fame Vote Tracker (as of 12/31/19 at 8:00 PM PST) (113 of approximately 412 ballots [110 publicly announced, 3 anonymously revealed to Ryan Thibodaux & his team], approximately 27.4% of the projected vote, will need at least approximately 309 votes to be elected to the Hall of Fame. Approximately at least 21 votes will be needed to appear on next year's ballot, provided candidate isn't elected or termed off.)[10]

Hall of Fame ballot for class of 2020
Player Votes Percent Change Year Net +/- from Returning Voters (announced) Class of 2019 votes
Derek Jeter 113 100.0 1st
Larry Walker 97 85.8% 10th 17 232
Curt Schilling 90 79.6% 8th 5 259
Roger Clemens 87 77.0% 8th -1 253
Barry Bonds 87 77.0% 8th 0 251
Scott Rolen 55 48.7% 3rd 30 73
Omar Vizquel 53 46.9% 3rd 10 182
Gary Sheffield 44 38.9% 6th 29 58
Manny Ramirez 42 37.2% 4th 7 97
Todd Helton 39 34.5% 2nd 19 70
Billy Wagner 36 31.9% 5th 21 71
Andruw Jones 32 28.3% 3rd 21 32
Jeff Kent 29 25.7% 7th 17 77
Sammy Sosa 22 19.5% 8th 5 36
Andy Pettitte 15 13.3% 2nd 5 42
Bobby Abreu 8 7.1% 1st
Josh Beckett 0 0.0% 1st
Heath Bell 0 0.0% 1st
Eric Chavez 0 0.0% 1st
Adam Dunn 0 0.0% 1st
Chone Figgins 0 0.0% 1st
Rafael Furcal 0 0.0% 1st
Jason Giambi 0 0.0% 1st
Raúl Ibañez 0 0.0% 1st
Paul Konerko 0 0.0% 1st
Cliff Lee 0 0.0% 1st
Carlos Peña 0 0.0% 1st
Brad Penny 0 0.0% 1st
J. J. Putz 0 0,0% 1st
Brian Roberts 0 0.0% 1st
Alfonso Soriano 0 0.0% 1st
José Valverde 0 0.0% 1st

[GannonFan]

I'll need to find a way to protest if Clemens and Bonds both end up getting in. Being a really great player shouldn't trump actually cheating in and around the course of the game.

I'm fine with Jeter, Walker, and Schilling getting in. Be a shame to tarnish their inductions with bringing in known cheats at the same time.

[89Hen]

I'll need to find a way to protest if Clemens and Bonds both end up getting in.

You could always vote for Jill Stein.

[CAA Flagship]

I'll need to find a way to protest if Clemens and Bonds both end up getting in. Being a really great player shouldn't trump actually cheating in and around the course of the game.

I'm fine with Jeter, Walker, and Schilling getting in. Be a shame to tarnish their inductions with bringing in known cheats at the same time.

I could argue that both Bonds and Clemens had HOFish careers before the steroid era. If they get in, I'd be OK with it. Sosa, on the other hand, never.

[AZGrizFan]

Larry Walker over Gary Sheffield. WAFJ

The first "Coors Field" HOF'er….dude was a fucking nobody until he started playing in that bandbox.

If we're going to start putting Colorado players in, we should start with Todd Helton.

[AZGrizFan]

And if Bonds is ok, why not Sosa?

[CAA Flagship]

And if Bonds is ok, why not Sosa?

I think it becomes fairly clear if you compare the careers prior to 1998.

[Ivytalk]

JoltinJoe lobbying furiously for Andy Pettitte.

[dbackjon]

This is a Travesty!

Raúl Ibañez 0 0.0% 1st

[AZGrizFan]

And if Bonds is ok, why not Sosa?

I think it becomes fairly clear if you compare the careers prior to 1998.

No, it's not clear.

93: Sammy 33/93, Barry 46/123
94: Sammy 25/70, Barry 38/81 (strike-shortened season)
95: Sammy 36/119, Barry 33/104
96: Sammy 40/100, Barry 42/129
97: Sammy 36/119, Barry 40/101
98: Sammy 66/158, Barry 37/124

Disclaimer: I'm not a Cubs, nor a Giants fan (and I despise Bonds and Sosa)….but I just don't get the differentiation.

[AZGrizFan]

This is a Travesty!

Raúl Ibañez 0 0.0% 1st

Lots of ex D-Backs polling at 0% there, Jonboy.

[dbackjon]

This is a Travesty!

Raúl Ibañez 0 0.0% 1st

Lots of ex D-Backs polling at 0% there, Jonboy.

Because they aren't worthy.

Anyone with 10 or more years of MLB service automatically gets put on the HOF ballot

[dbackjon]

So if Schilling gets in, whose Hat does he wear?

Jeter/Walker are no-brainers
Clemens has to be Boston
Bonds would be a HOF just with his Pittsburgh numbers, but the Giants are where he did his HR's

[AZGrizFan]

Lots of ex D-Backs polling at 0% there, Jonboy.

Because they aren't worthy.

Anyone with 10 or more years of MLB service automatically gets put on the HOF ballot

I know, not arguing that. Just found it hilarious how many ex D-Backs there are on the list, and all (except Schilling) polling at or near 0%.

[Gil Dobie]

Putting Barry Steroid and Misremember Clemens in the HOF is going to happen at some point. Too bad Baseball couldn't wash their records from the time they used. Hank Aaron and Roger Maris should be the official HR record holders. At least Maris still holds the AL record of 61 in 61.

[GannonFan]

Putting Barry Steroid and Misremember Clemens in the HOF is going to happen at some point. Too bad Baseball couldn't wash their records from the time they used. Hank Aaron and Roger Maris should be the official HR record holders. At least Maris still holds the AL record of 61 in 61.

It doesn't have to happen. They're getting close to the time limit of being on the ballot, just let them expire and them let the veterans committee handle it. There's no equivalent for the amount of cheating they did, and there's no doubt that they did cheat. No sense in rewarding it.

[GannonFan]

So if Schilling gets in, whose Hat does he wear?

Jeter/Walker are no-brainers
Clemens has to be Boston
Bonds would be a HOF just with his Pittsburgh numbers, but the Giants are where he did his HR's

Schilling would be a tough one - he might go in without a specific one (a blank one). He spent the longest time in Philly and is still active around here, and won an NLCS here. He won WS titles in Arizona and Boston but both weren't necessarily long tenures. He has the bloody sock thing from Boston but I think he also moved out of the area post career because he didn't care for the Boston area later in life.

[dbackjon]

So if Schilling gets in, whose Hat does he wear?

Jeter/Walker are no-brainers
Clemens has to be Boston
Bonds would be a HOF just with his Pittsburgh numbers, but the Giants are where he did his HR's

Schilling would be a tough one - he might go in without a specific one (a blank one). He spent the longest time in Philly and is still active around here, and won an NLCS here. He won WS titles in Arizona and Boston but both weren't necessarily long tenures. He has the bloody sock thing from Boston but I think he also moved out of the area post career because he didn't care for the Boston area later in life.

He is a tough one. Longer tenure in PHIL, but reputation was made in Arizona and Boston - his performance especially in the 2001 WS was one for the ages. He grew up in Arizona, and has talked about running for Congress from here, but his wife's skin cancers make living in AZ tough.

[CAA Flagship]

I think it becomes fairly clear if you compare the careers prior to 1998.

No, it's not clear.

93: Sammy 33/93, Barry 46/123
94: Sammy 25/70, Barry 38/81 (strike-shortened season)
95: Sammy 36/119, Barry 33/104
96: Sammy 40/100, Barry 42/129
97: Sammy 36/119, Barry 40/101
98: Sammy 66/158, Barry 37/124

Disclaimer: I'm not a Cubs, nor a Giants fan (and I despise Bonds and Sosa)….but I just don't get the differentiation.

Look at things like AS games, MVP awards, Gold Gloves, Silver Slugger awards. That will tell you who was considered the better player of the era.

[CAA Flagship]

JoltinJoe lobbying furiously for Andy Pettitte.

There is not much difference between Schilling and Pettitte.

Side Note: Every pitcher that had more than 100 wins than losses made the HoF.

[Chizzang]

if Andy Pettitte doesn't make it - then I don't understand what the HoF is for..?



the guy won 19 post season games
That's going to stand for 75 years

[CAA Flagship]

if Andy Pettitte doesn't make it - then I don't understand what the HoF is for..?



the guy won 19 post season games
That's going to stand for 75 years

Honestly, I'm on the fence regarding Pettitte. I just don't think Schilling deserves much more consideration than Pettitte.

[Chizzang]

if Andy Pettitte doesn't make it - then I don't understand what the HoF is for..?



the guy won 19 post season games
That's going to stand for 75 years

Honestly, I'm on the fence regarding Pettitte. I just don't think Schilling deserves much more consideration than Pettitte.

For me it's simple...
if you hold a record regarding wins in a 150 year old sport - you go to the HoF



He is the all-time leader in post season victories with 19
and is 7-1 in ALCS play
and has 6 series clinching victories which is also a record



Jeezus Titty Fucking Christ !!!
what is the HoF for if that guy isn't in there ?

[89Hen]

For me it's simple...
if you hold a record regarding wins in a 150 year old sport - you go to the HoF



He is the all-time leader in post season victories with 19
and is 7-1 in ALCS play
and has 6 series clinching victories which is also a record



Jeezus Titty Fucking Christ !!!
what is the HoF for if that guy isn't in there ?

I don't really care, but propping up a record for post season wins for 150 years when for the first 100 years there was only one best of 7 requires an awfully large asterisk IMO.

[Chizzang]

For me it's simple...
if you hold a record regarding wins in a 150 year old sport - you go to the HoF



He is the all-time leader in post season victories with 19
and is 7-1 in ALCS play
and has 6 series clinching victories which is also a record



Jeezus Titty Fucking Christ !!!
what is the HoF for if that guy isn't in there ?

I don't really care, but propping up a record for post season wins for 150 years when for the first 100 years there was only one best of 7 requires an awfully large asterisk IMO.

strong point
it's kinda the inverse argument about Bigfoot
before everybody had a phone on their camera - there were a lot of sightings - now days - not so much

Before their were 3 rounds of playoffs
a playoff win had more significant value

agreed...