2020 Baseball Hall of Fame Voting

[dbackjon]

Jeter and Walker elected

[CAA Flagship]

Jeter and Walker elected

Jeter was 1 vote shy of unanimous. That guy is gonna get torched.

[SuperHornet]

Jeter and Walker elected

Both are bologna picks. I'm still waiting for George Foster, Ken Griffey, Sr., and Pete Rose to get in....

[dbackjon]

Jeter and Walker elected

Both are bologna picks. I'm still waiting for George Foster, Ken Griffey, Sr., and Pete Rose to get in....

Jeter is a bologna pick? While he doesn't deserve 99.7% of the vote, he is a sure HOF.

[93henfan]

Larry Walker.

[Ivytalk]

Larry Walker.

Agreed. Deserves a big Coors Field asterisk.

[Gil Dobie]

Larry Walker.

Agreed. Deserves a big Coors Field asterisk.

What about Rolen, Rolen, Rolen?

[Ivytalk]

Agreed. Deserves a big Coors Field asterisk.

What about Rolen, Rolen, Rolen?

Done, done, done.

[Gil Dobie]

Larry Walker.

Agreed. Deserves a big Coors Field asterisk.

Vinny Castilla and Todd Helton next year.

[AZGrizFan]

Larry Walker.

No shit. Embarrassing.

[Ivytalk]

JoltinJoe comparison of Mattingly stats to Walker stats in 3-2-1...

[CAA Flagship]

Both are bologna picks. I'm still waiting for George Foster, Ken Griffey, Sr., and Pete Rose to get in....

Jeter is a bologna pick? While he doesn't deserve 99.7% of the vote, he is a sure HOF.

Are you saying the 99.7% is too low or too high?

[AZGrizFan]

Jeter is a bologna pick? While he doesn't deserve 99.7% of the vote, he is a sure HOF.

Are you saying the 99.7% is too low or too high?

Go look at Robin Yount's #'s. He got 77% of the vote.

[CAA Flagship]

Are you saying the 99.7% is too low or too high?

Go look at Robin Yount's #'s. He got 77% of the vote.

Take a look at that ballot. There were 9 eventual HOFers on that ballot.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/awar ... 1999.shtml

[GannonFan]

Jeter and Walker elected

Jeter was 1 vote shy of unanimous. That guy is gonna get torched.

I'd have left him off too, just to keep it from being unanimous. You can argue Mariano as a unanimous, at least he's likely the best ever at his particular position. No one has ever argued Jeter is the best SS of all time. Most agreed he should've stopped playing SS later in his career as his fielding skills dropped off with age. He's a definite HOF'er, no one is denying that. Just saying that unanimous should be saved for the very special.

[GannonFan]

Schilling should be a lock for next year now.

[CAA Flagship]

Jeter was 1 vote shy of unanimous. That guy is gonna get torched.

I'd have left him off too, just to keep it from being unanimous. You can argue Mariano as a unanimous, at least he's likely the best ever at his particular position. No one has ever argued Jeter is the best SS of all time. Most agreed he should've stopped playing SS later in his career as his fielding skills dropped off with age. He's a definite HOF'er, no one is denying that. Just saying that unanimous should be saved for the very special.

That's silly. You have a ballot and you choose. Why bring outside considerations into it? As a voter, you're not asked to solve the world's problems. Just choose the players that you think deserve to be in the HOF.
And considering the blemishes on the ballot, how do you not choose Jeter when you have 10 votes to give?

[tribe_pride]

Schilling should be a lock for next year now.

Yeah. And since Clemens and Bonds didn't get much of an improvement this year and only have 2 years left, they likely are out until Veterans Committee votes them in eventually I have to believe.

[GannonFan]

I'd have left him off too, just to keep it from being unanimous. You can argue Mariano as a unanimous, at least he's likely the best ever at his particular position. No one has ever argued Jeter is the best SS of all time. Most agreed he should've stopped playing SS later in his career as his fielding skills dropped off with age. He's a definite HOF'er, no one is denying that. Just saying that unanimous should be saved for the very special.

That's silly. You have a ballot and you choose. Why bring outside considerations into it? As a voter, you're not asked to solve the world's problems. Just choose the players that you think deserve to be in the HOF.
And considering the blemishes on the ballot, how do you not choose Jeter when you have 10 votes to give?

I don't need to use all my 10 and what's wrong with saying I want to honor the past when plenty of greats (really, all but Mariano) who didn't get in with a unanimous vote? Heck, I would've been the stick in the mud and I wouldn't have voted Mariano in unanimously, although his case for it was much stronger than Jeter's. And people using all of their 10 votes like they have to is why we have a flawed player like Scott Rolen actually be mentioned in the same breath as HOF.

[GannonFan]

Schilling should be a lock for next year now.

Yeah. And since Clemens and Bonds didn't get much of an improvement this year and only have 2 years left, they likely are out until Veterans Committee votes them in eventually I have to believe.

As it should be. Luckily the turnover in voters from old to young hasn't happened fast enough for people to brush away the rampant cheating that Clemens and Bonds participated in. Let them wait several more years and see if the Veteran's Committee is any more forgiving of their transgressions.

Pretty sparse next year after Schilling. He could be the only one. I'm not sure letting Schilling have the stage all to himself is a good idea. Look for maybe Omar Vizquel to have a crazy increase in votes to at least get someone else up there.

[dbackjon]

Jeter is a bologna pick? While he doesn't deserve 99.7% of the vote, he is a sure HOF.

Are you saying the 99.7% is too low or too high?

Too high.

If he wasn't a Yankee he'd likely get in first ballot, but around 80%. Similarly, the Best SS ever to play the game - Omar Vizquel - if he was a Yankee he'd be in the hall already.

Jeter was a negative value SS.

[AZGrizFan]

Go look at Robin Yount's #'s. He got 77% of the vote.

Take a look at that ballot. There were 9 eventual HOFers on that ballot.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/awar ... 1999.shtml

So?

[CAA Flagship]

Take a look at that ballot. There were 9 eventual HOFers on that ballot.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/awar ... 1999.shtml

So?

A lot of eye candy to spread the votes around, thus lowering the percentage.

[JoltinJoe]

Are you saying the 99.7% is too low or too high?

Too high.

If he wasn't a Yankee he'd likely get in first ballot, but around 80%. Similarly, the Best SS ever to play the game - Omar Vizquel - if he was a Yankee he'd be in the hall already.

Jeter was a negative value SS.

Jon has joined the pointy-hat nimrods in the Math League.

[CAA Flagship]

Are you saying the 99.7% is too low or too high?

Too high.

If he wasn't a Yankee he'd likely get in first ballot, but around 80%. Similarly, the Best SS ever to play the game - Omar Vizquel - if he was a Yankee he'd be in the hall already.

Jeter was a negative value SS.

Oh stop already. Vizquel batted .272. Jeter batted .308. That's a significant difference.
Jeter also batted over .300 in the postseason. And that's not from a small sample size. It was the equivalent of a full season.