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And down goes Beltran

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:57 am
by tribe_pride
"Steps down" as the Mets manager after reports that he was heavily involved in the Astros cheating as a player

At least he can say that he is undefeated as a manager.

Re: And down goes Beltran

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:16 pm
by 93henfan
Awesome. Muck the Fets.

Re: And down goes Beltran

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:55 pm
by JoltinJoe
Yesterday's Wall Street Journal had a story about the sign stealing mess, with this line:

“It’s pos­si­ble Bel­trán could be punished, but ... he is go­ing to be man­aging the Mets, so that may suffice.”

Re: And down goes Beltran

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:26 pm
by GannonFan
JoltinJoe wrote:Yesterday's Wall Street Journal had a story about the sign stealing mess, with this line:

“It’s pos­si­ble Bel­trán could be punished, but ... he is go­ing to be man­aging the Mets, so that may suffice.”
Once again, cheaters avoid punishment. :rofl:

Re: And down goes Beltran

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:52 pm
by AZGrizFan
Shouldn't every player face a suspension as well? I mean, wasn't Beltran a player when this happened in '17?

Re: And down goes Beltran

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:10 am
by JoltinJoe
AZGrizFan wrote:Shouldn't every player face a suspension as well? I mean, wasn't Beltran a player when this happened in '17?
MLB granted the players clemency for truthful statements. So the only way a player will be disciplined is if it turns out the player lied.

Re: And down goes Beltran

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:42 am
by 93henfan
JoltinJoe wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Shouldn't every player face a suspension as well? I mean, wasn't Beltran a player when this happened in '17?
MLB granted the players clemency for truthful statements. So the only way a player will be disciplined is if it turns out the player lied.
MLB also doesn't want to penalize the franchises that didn't cheat.

Because so many of the players have moved to other teams, and those teams have budgeted their contracts into their overall salary strategy and talent evaluations, suspending those players now would impact franchises that had no involvement.

Granted, MLB could simply fine the players and let them play, but like you said, that's water under the bridge if clemency was granted.

Re: And down goes Beltran

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:41 am
by AZGrizFan
I'm not sure how the Astros EVER thought this would stay quiet. Waaaaay too many people knew, and those people eventually become employees of someone ELSE.

The stupidity was strong in this one.