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Who's most deserving?

I'm pulling for Chris Coghlan of the Florida Marlins.

.311 BA 74 Runs and 42 RBI from the leadoff spot in less than a full season.

Chris is the best friend of a guy's son who I work with (a local kid). He says the kid practically lived at his house in HS. With that, I'm really rooting for the guy. His numbers seem deserving...

What say you?

Tommy Hanson or J.A.Happ

Gerrardo Parra, Arizona Diamondbacks
111 games
430 At Bats
56 Runs
126 Hits
19 Doubles
8 Triples
5 HR's
58 RBI's
5 SB's
.293 Average
.328 OBP
.409 Slugging

Coghlan/Parra
118/111 games
460/430 At Bats
75/56 Runs
144/126 Hits
25/19 Doubles
6/8 Triples
9/5 HR's
42/58 RBI's
7/5 SB's
.313/.293 Average
.384/.328 OBP
.452/.409 Slugging

I think Coghlan's numbers, overall, are just a tad better.

hanson, ftw...

on the AL side... they'll probably give it to that Beckham twerp from Chicago...

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:hanson, ftw...

Hanson and Happ have very similar numbers - I couldn't disagree with either one as ROTY in the NL.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:hanson, ftw...

on the AL side... they'll probably give it to that Beckham twerp from Chicago...

That's what I'm thinking, Hanson and Beckham.... though Happ and Hanson are virtually identical stat wise.

This guy is sure to get some votes.

20 HR is less then 300 AB and batting over .300



In the AL if you guys were voters would you give Nick Adenhart the last spot on you ROY ballot?

SunCoastBlueHen wrote:Coghlan/Parra
118/111 games
460/430 At Bats
75/56 Runs
144/126 Hits
25/19 Doubles
6/8 Triples
9/5 HR's
42/58 RBI's
7/5 SB's
.313/.293 Average
.384/.328 OBP
.452/.409 Slugging

I think Coghlan's numbers, overall, are just a tad better.

Actually, more than just a tad.

AZGrizFan wrote:

SunCoastBlueHen wrote:Coghlan/Parra
118/111 games
460/430 At Bats
75/56 Runs
144/126 Hits
25/19 Doubles
6/8 Triples
9/5 HR's
42/58 RBI's
7/5 SB's
.313/.293 Average
.384/.328 OBP
.452/.409 Slugging

I think Coghlan's numbers, overall, are just a tad better.

Actually, more than just a tad.

he was being nice

hanson has done it in a lot less time than happ......Tommy Hanson is the N.L. rookie of the year

citdog wrote:hanson has done it in a lot less time than happ......Tommy Hanson is the N.L. rookie of the year

Happ/Hanson

10/10 W
4/4 L
2.77/2.85 ERA
32/19 G
20/19 GS
3/0 CG
2/0 SHO
152.2/113.2 IP
105/100 SO
52/43 BB
.234/.230 AVG
1.19/1.22 WHIP

I'm not sure how time factors into this at all, but these stats are almost identical and, if anything, favor Happ. It can't hurt that Happ is pitching for a division winner, either.

SunCoastBlueHen wrote:

citdog wrote:hanson has done it in a lot less time than happ......Tommy Hanson is the N.L. rookie of the year

Happ/Hanson

10/10 W
4/4 L
2.77/2.85 ERA
20/19 GS
3/0 CG
2/0 SHO
152.2/113.2 IP
105/100 SO
52/43 BB
.234/.230 AVG
1.19/1.22 WHIP

I'm not sure how time factors into this at all, but these stats are almost identical and, if anything, favor Happ. It can't hurt that Happ is pitching for a division winner, either.

Happ also has 13 relief appearances covering 21.2 innings

UNHWildCats wrote:Happ also has 13 relief appearances covering 21.2 innings

Yes he did, but that has little meaning when doing a side by side comparison of the two.

SunCoastBlueHen wrote:

citdog wrote:hanson has done it in a lot less time than happ......Tommy Hanson is the N.L. rookie of the year

Happ/Hanson

10/10 W
4/4 L
2.77/2.85 ERA
20/19 GS
3/0 CG
2/0 SHO
152.2/113.2 IP
105/100 SO
52/43 BB
.234/.230 AVG
1.19/1.22 WHIP

I'm not sure how time factors into this at all, but these stats are almost identical and, if anything, favor Happ. It can't hurt that Happ is pitching for a division winner, either.

My money is on Happ given all these statistics.

SunCoastBlueHen wrote:

UNHWildCats wrote:Happ also has 13 relief appearances covering 21.2 innings

Yes he did, but that has little meaning when doing a side by side comparison of the two.

not really... by leaving that out your stats suggest he pitched more innings per start then Hanson by a wide margin and thats misleading..

UNHWildCats wrote:

SunCoastBlueHen wrote:
Yes he did, but that has little meaning when doing a side by side comparison of the two.

not really... by leaving that out your stats suggest he pitched more innings per start then Hanson by a wide margin and thats misleading..

OK - I suppose I'll concede that one (it wasn't omitted to try to skew anything). I edited the original post to include games.

SunCoastBlueHen wrote:

UNHWildCats wrote: not really... by leaving that out your stats suggest he pitched more innings per start then Hanson by a wide margin and thats misleading..

OK - I suppose I'll concede that one (it wasn't omitted to try to skew anything). I edited the original post to include games.

I still say Happ wins it.

AZGrizFan wrote:

SunCoastBlueHen wrote:
OK - I suppose I'll concede that one (it wasn't omitted to try to skew anything). I edited the original post to include games.

I still say Happ wins it.

I forgot to include the link earlier but this guy will surely make noise on the balloting.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8024

UNHWildCats wrote:I forgot to include the link earlier but this guy will surely make noise on the balloting.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8024

Wow, a 28 year old rookie who bummed around the minors for the better part of a decade. 20 dingers in 70 some games is very impressive! Something must have gotten into that guy and I think a piss test may be warranted to figure out what.

SunCoastBlueHen wrote:

UNHWildCats wrote:I forgot to include the link earlier but this guy will surely make noise on the balloting.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8024

Wow, a 28 year old rookie who bummed around the minors for the better part of a decade. 20 dingers in 70 some games is very impressive! Something must have gotten into that guy and I think a piss test may be warranted to figure out what.

if 10 year veterans of japanese baseball can win it, then a 28 year old career minor leaguer can too...

UNHWildCats wrote:

SunCoastBlueHen wrote:
Wow, a 28 year old rookie who bummed around the minors for the better part of a decade. 20 dingers in 70 some games is very impressive! Something must have gotten into that guy and I think a piss test may be warranted to figure out what.

if 10 year veterans of japanese baseball can win it, then a 28 year old career minor leaguer can too...

Apples and oranges.

A Japanese player already reached the pinnacle of the baseball world in their country and then only the best of their "major leagues" get offered contracts here in the States. I also assume you are referring to Ichiro, and he was one of the first to set the standard for Japenese players in this country. A trailblazer, if you will. A guy who spent 10 years in the minors here in the U.S. was, for years, deemed to be not good enough. Not many players spend that many years in the minors and then find great success in the majors.

After reading into it... I'm gonna have to go with SCBH's original pick Chris Coghlan