Here we go again part ??

[Ibanez]

I have no problems with a cop roughing up a disorderly person a little. Happened all the time to my Irish ancestors and they seemed to have learned their lesson. Where do you think the term paddywagon" comes from?

Bottom line: you make a policeman's life more difficult, he's going to make yours difficult too, and I'm OK with that, yes.

THIS IS THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF HOW HITLER CAME TO POWER. PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO GIVE SOME OF THERE RIGHTS FOR A SO-CALLED PERCEIVED SAFETY OF THE NATION.

No. Hitler gave a voice to those that were disillusioned. He gave the people, angry with society, an escape goat. He gave them hope.

Remove your racial bias. Your prejudices do you a real disservice.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[mrklean]

THIS IS THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF HOW HITLER CAME TO POWER. PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO GIVE SOME OF THERE RIGHTS FOR A SO-CALLED PERCEIVED SAFETY OF THE NATION.

No. Hitler gave a voice to those that were disillusioned. He gave the people, angry with society, an escape goat. He gave them hope.

Remove your racial bias. Your prejudices do you a real disservice.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

There is not racial bias to this just fact. I have provided you with facts and you make excuses for the police.

[mrklean]

THIS IS THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF HOW HITLER CAME TO POWER. PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO GIVE SOME OF THERE RIGHTS FOR A SO-CALLED PERCEIVED SAFETY OF THE NATION.

No. Hitler gave a voice to those that were disillusioned. He gave the people, angry with society, an escape goat. He gave them hope.

Remove your racial bias. Your prejudices do you a real disservice.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sounds a lot like Trump.

[Ibanez]

Yes, as clearly demonstrated by how Hitler rose to power in the US in the mid-1800's when Irish were behaving badly and police would knock the occasional one over the head with a billy club. Sounds legit

What happens when they turn on you. What if this happened to your wife or sister?
People don't mind as long as it does not happen to them.

I'd be angry. But I'm not going to vandalize my community. I'm not going to cause civil unrest. If my family member was not complying with police orders, I'd be angry that they were so stupid. It's really that easy.


Btw, there's a stat that police kill more whites than blacks. Where are the whites protesting? Do you think The CLT Police Chief is a pasty? A liar? An Uncle Tom?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[mrklean]

What happens when they turn on you. What if this happened to your wife or sister?
People don't mind as long as it does not happen to them.

I'd be angry. But I'm not going to vandalize my community. I'm not going to cause civil unrest. If my family member was not complying with police orders, I'd be angry that they were so stupid. It's really that easy.


Btw, there's a stat that police kill more whites than blacks. Where are the whites protesting? Do you think The CLT Police Chief is a pasty? A liar? An Uncle Tom?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Vandalizing your community is wrong, but it happens. What kills me is that many of you look a criminology as a black experience. It happens all over the world. Remember, Ireland in the early to mid 80's they rioted almost every week burning their community up as well. I know if we had quality education in the inner city, much of this would not be happening.

[Ibanez]

I'd be angry. But I'm not going to vandalize my community. I'm not going to cause civil unrest. If my family member was not complying with police orders, I'd be angry that they were so stupid. It's really that easy.


Btw, there's a stat that police kill more whites than blacks. Where are the whites protesting? Do you think The CLT Police Chief is a pasty? A liar? An Uncle Tom?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Vandalizing your community is wrong, but it happens. What kills me is that many of you look a criminology as a black experience. It happens all over the world. Remember, Ireland in the early to mid 80's they rioted almost every week burning their community up as well. I know if we had quality education in the inner city, much of this would not be happening.

Don't tell me how I look at criminology. Honestly, white or black it doesn't matter. STOP BREAKING THE LAW, ASSHOLE! Comply with the orders. Every single one of them and live. When they go above and beyond, don't get hostile. That way you can sue the hell out of the PD afterwards. CLT is releasing all the videos, as of 15 minutes ago.

[Ibanez]

klean, the other effect of the riots was that people that live in those neighborhoods, students, etc.... who worked in that area were essentially isolated while those thugs were running around stealing cash registers, shoes and whatever else could grab. I have no sympathy for their cause.

[YoUDeeMan]

You can't kill someone because you perceived a threat. That's not what the policy states. If this was so, they would shoot anyone who gave them a dirty look.

Yeah, because those dirty looks can be REAL dangerous.

Jesus you're a retard.

Yup, kkklean is a retard...and one of the dumber ones.

[YoUDeeMan]

I have no problems with a cop roughing up a disorderly person a little. Happened all the time to my Irish ancestors and they seemed to have learned their lesson. Where do you think the term paddywagon" comes from?

Bottom line: you make a policeman's life more difficult, he's going to make yours difficult too, and I'm OK with that, yes.

THIS IS THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF HOW HITLER CAME TO POWER. PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO GIVE SOME OF THERE RIGHTS FOR A SO-CALLED PERCEIVED SAFETY OF THE NATION.

Not only is kkklean a retard, he is also a drama queen.

Lots of homo tendencies as well.

[YoUDeeMan]

Remember, Ireland in the early to mid 80's they rioted almost every week burning their community up as well. I know if we had quality education in the inner city, much of this would not be happening.

Holy shit...YOU need a quality education.

[SeattleGriz]

Klean. I have to ask this. Is there something about showing deference to our Police that is insulting to African Americans?

We tried that before. Then we got Jim Crow. The United States Justice system does not have a favorable track record with the minority community.

I said police, not general public. I show the police a level of respect and agreement that I don't to anyone else. Is doing this frowned upon by African-Americans?

[mrklean]

klean, the other effect of the riots was that people that live in those neighborhoods, students, etc.... who worked in that area were essentially isolated while those thugs were running around stealing cash registers, shoes and whatever else could grab. I have no sympathy for their cause.

I man, I agree with you 1000% on all of this. Tearing up your shit would solve the problem. But when is enough , enough. Right or wrong a large % of the population feels that law enforcement has targeted the black community to collect fines and fees to fund public Safety. That is wrong.

[Ibanez]

klean, the other effect of the riots was that people that live in those neighborhoods, students, etc.... who worked in that area were essentially isolated while those thugs were running around stealing cash registers, shoes and whatever else could grab. I have no sympathy for their cause.

I man, I agree with you 1000% on all of this. Tearing up your shit would solve the problem. But when is enough , enough. Right or wrong a large % of the population feels that law enforcement has targeted the black community to collect fines and fees to fund public Safety. That is wrong.

Perhaps that % of the population should look within and ask what they are doing to contribute to the problem. It's not one sided.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[mrklean]

I man, I agree with you 1000% on all of this. Tearing up your **** would solve the problem. But when is enough , enough. Right or wrong a large % of the population feels that law enforcement has targeted the black community to collect fines and fees to fund public Safety. That is wrong.

Perhaps that % of the population should look within and ask what they are doing to contribute to the problem. It's not one sided.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Enough blame to go all the way around. We all have failed. People think, well its not my community so fuck it. But that's the American way.

[mrklean]

I just saw the video on CNN. I did not see a freaking gun. He was backing up when they shot him and the guy in the red shirt shot him not the black cop.

[Gil Dobie]

I man, I agree with you 1000% on all of this. Tearing up your **** would solve the problem. But when is enough , enough. Right or wrong a large % of the population feels that law enforcement has targeted the black community to collect fines and fees to fund public Safety. That is wrong.

Perhaps that % of the population should look within and ask what they are doing to contribute to the problem. It's not one sided.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

What have our leaders done to resolve the problem?

[mrklean]

Perhaps that % of the population should look within and ask what they are doing to contribute to the problem. It's not one sided.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

What have our leaders done to resolve the problem?

Leaders can't solve this problem. This has to start from the local level. I man is right about that. Parents have to take more responsibility for their kids education. Teachers can only do so much. But this does mean police can become firing squads and shoot people because they did not follow a command. This is not what Law Enforcement is about.

[93henfan]

I just saw the video on CNN. I did not see a freaking gun. He was backing up when they shot him and the guy in the red shirt shot him not the black cop.

The video isn't really definitive on what is in his hands. It does look pretty definitive that he didn't try to point a gun at the cops. Also, the officer in the red shirt that I see in the video didn't fire a single shot. He just sort of flinched from the other cop(s) shooting, and you can't really see the shooter(s) very clearly.

My initial thoughts: this video doesn't clear anything up other than the guy didn't look to be pointing a weapon and he looked like he was walking backward and not trying to make an aggressive move.

This video will probably keep the riots going because the armchair quarterbacks will draw the unfounded conclusion that there is no gun in his hand. There might not be, but this video isn't clear enough to determine that. It also doesn't show any sort of aggressive move, although it does show a man who looks like he is not complying with instructions and possibly being evasive to get out of the triangle of fire he is obviously in while sitting in the SUV. Public opinion-wise, this video is bad for the police because there is no obviously offensive move by the eventual dead guy.

[mrklean]

I just saw the video on CNN. I did not see a freaking gun. He was backing up when they shot him and the guy in the red shirt shot him not the black cop.

The video isn't really definitive on what is in his hands. It does look pretty definitive that he didn't try to point a gun at the cops. Also, the officer in the red shirt that I see in the video didn't fire a single shot. He just sort of flinched from the other cop(s) shooting, and you can't really see the shooter(s) very clearly.

My initial thoughts: this video doesn't clear anything up other than the guy didn't look to be pointing a weapon and he looked like he was walking backward and not trying to make an aggressive move.

This video will probably keep the riots going because the armchair quarterbacks will draw the unfounded conclusion that there is no gun in his hand. There might not be, but this video isn't clear enough to determine that. It also doesn't show any sort of aggressive move, although it does show a man who looks like he is not complying with instructions and possibly being evasive to get out of the triangle of fire he is obviously in while sitting in the SUV. Public opinion-wise, this video is bad for the police because there is no obviously offensive move by the eventual dead guy.

If we keep this up, we are moving closer to destroying this country. I guess we have to learn the hard way. It's 2016 and we can't find a way to treat each other like humans.

[93henfan]

The video isn't really definitive on what is in his hands. It does look pretty definitive that he didn't try to point a gun at the cops. Also, the officer in the red shirt that I see in the video didn't fire a single shot. He just sort of flinched from the other cop(s) shooting, and you can't really see the shooter(s) very clearly.

My initial thoughts: this video doesn't clear anything up other than the guy didn't look to be pointing a weapon and he looked like he was walking backward and not trying to make an aggressive move.

This video will probably keep the riots going because the armchair quarterbacks will draw the unfounded conclusion that there is no gun in his hand. There might not be, but this video isn't clear enough to determine that. It also doesn't show any sort of aggressive move, although it does show a man who looks like he is not complying with instructions and possibly being evasive to get out of the triangle of fire he is obviously in while sitting in the SUV. Public opinion-wise, this video is bad for the police because there is no obviously offensive move by the eventual dead guy.

If we keep this up, we are moving closer to destroying this country. I guess we have to learn the hard way. It's 2016 and we can't find a way to treat each other like humans.

It sucks man. No doubt about it.

I talk to several black friends from high school and we wonder if time has given us rose-colored glasses on growing up in the late 70s and 80s in school together, but we don't remember race relations ever being this bad in our lifetimes.

[mrklean]

If we keep this up, we are moving closer to destroying this country. I guess we have to learn the hard way. It's 2016 and we can't find a way to treat each other like humans.

It sucks man. No doubt about it.

I talk to several black friends from high school and we wonder if time has given us rose-colored glasses on growing up in the late 70s and 80s in school together, but we don't remember race relations ever being this bad in our lifetimes.

It's always been like this, now we have video. I have a 13 year old son and I have had several talks with him about dealing with police. ALL of my friends have had to talk to their sons about police interaction. To be honest, I don't want my son driving. He will be 14 next year and hes already talking about driving. We have never really gotten over the Civil war. But its time to have a honest and heart felt talk about how we treat people in this country.

[93henfan]

It sucks man. No doubt about it.

I talk to several black friends from high school and we wonder if time has given us rose-colored glasses on growing up in the late 70s and 80s in school together, but we don't remember race relations ever being this bad in our lifetimes.

It's always been like this, now we have video. I have a 13 year old son and I have had several talks with him about dealing with police. ALL of my friends have had to talk to their sons about police interaction. To be honest, I don't want my son driving. He will be 14 next year and hes already talking about driving. We have never really gotten over the Civil war. But its time to have a honest and heart felt talk about how we treat people in this country.

I will have talks with my sons as well. White people get killed by cops too. There's no special hate for black people by law enforcement. There might be extra fear and tension based on the five-times higher rate of violent crime by blacks I referenced in FBI statistics, but I don't think cops are out hunting negros. I think black folks will be a lot better off once they realize that and stop being so resistant to law enforcement. It's a vicious cycle.

[CAA Flagship]

I'd be angry. But I'm not going to vandalize my community. I'm not going to cause civil unrest. If my family member was not complying with police orders, I'd be angry that they were so stupid. It's really that easy.


Btw, there's a stat that police kill more whites than blacks. Where are the whites protesting? Do you think The CLT Police Chief is a pasty? A liar? An Uncle Tom?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Vandalizing your community is wrong, but it happens. What kills me is that many of you look a criminology as a black experience. It happens all over the world. Remember, Ireland in the early to mid 80's they rioted almost every week burning their community up as well. I know if we had quality education in the inner city, much of this would not be happening.

The definition of "quality" and the assessment of what is currently being provided can be debated without conclusion. I love root cause analyses. One of the simplest is the 5 Whys where you state a problem and ask why, and continue until you get to the root cause.

Inner city students are not getting a quality education.
Why? A lot of money is poured into these schools with little effect. Maybe some blame can go towards the educators. Maybe to the administrations, too. But no matter what is going on, students are not working up to the level of education services provided.
Why? No push from home.
Why? Inner city families are broken.
Why? 1. They follow a historical pattern of family life, and 2. Economic struggles.
Why? 1. It's what they know, and 2. Governing by Democrats.

It's time that inner-city residents look at Democrats for what they are. They give small handouts for their vote, but the lives of the residents don't improve. All they want is their vote. They really don't care about them.
It's time to wake up and break the chains.

[93henfan]

And no, Klean, it hasn't always been like this. Thirty years ago, packs of black kids weren't going around playing knockout games with white kids and homeless people. There wasn't the general thugishness that you see so often now. Maybe it's because more black kids had parents raising them right back then. I think the black family situation and so many absentee fathers in the black community really sets them up for failure.

[mrklean]

It's always been like this, now we have video. I have a 13 year old son and I have had several talks with him about dealing with police. ALL of my friends have had to talk to their sons about police interaction. To be honest, I don't want my son driving. He will be 14 next year and hes already talking about driving. We have never really gotten over the Civil war. But its time to have a honest and heart felt talk about how we treat people in this country.

I will have talks with my sons as well. White people get killed by cops too. There's no special hate for black people by law enforcement. There might be extra fear and tension based on the five-times higher rate of violent crime by blacks I referenced in FBI statistics, but I don't think cops are out hunting negros. I think black folks will be a lot better off once they realize that and stop being so resistant to law enforcement. It's a vicious cycle.

I guess we have to agree to disagree. I know all of my friends have been stopped by police for bullshit reasons. I'm former LE myself and have thought use of force training in the Army. As far as Negros being shot, well i just go by the facts. It's men who look like me that are being killed for no reason.

BTW, the FBI did an investigation on white supremacist joining law enforcement. Look it up on google, its a long but good read.