The Obama Legacy
The Obama Legacy
Couldn't have hit the ball any farther out of the park than this editorial. "Disappointment" will always be the word I associate with the Obama presidency.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-obama-legacy-1484006700
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-obama-legacy-1484006700
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Third term bro.Bronco wrote:
Greatest since FDR.
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houndawg wrote:Third term bro.Bronco wrote:
Greatest since FDR.
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Governed like a centrist conk. Pretended to cut the deficit while doimg very little to fix the systemic problems. No major FP blunders that hurt the mainland anymore than His predecessor and probably less, adopted a Republican healthcare plan. Yet...still despised????BDKJMU wrote:houndawg wrote:
Third term bro.
Greatest since FDR.
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There you go again with your Obama is a centrist conk nonsense.kalm wrote:Governed like a centrist conk. Pretended to cut the deficit while doimg very little to fix the systemic problems. No major FP blunders that hurt the mainland anymore than His predecessor and probably less, adopted a Republican healthcare plan. Yet...still despised????BDKJMU wrote:
-2 massive tax increases (fiscal cliff & Obamacare)
-1st 2 years in office when he was able too with a near donk supermajority massive spending increases (the 800 billion stimulus plan was loaded with social welfare spending). He look like a conk on spending in his last 6 years because he was constrained by a conk congress) (W was liberal on spending too)
-massive regulatory increases
-appointed liberal judges
-attempted amnesty by exec fiat
What else have I left off. Yeah, a centrist conk..
And just because Obamacare has some similarities to a plan Romney adopted in a small state doesn't make it a Republican plan. Obamacare, written 100% by Pelosi/Reid, with ZERO Republican input or votes, a Republican plan.
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fewer than centrist conks reagan and HWBush.BDKJMU wrote:There you go again with your Obama is a centrist conk nonsense.kalm wrote:
Governed like a centrist conk. Pretended to cut the deficit while doimg very little to fix the systemic problems. No major FP blunders that hurt the mainland anymore than His predecessor and probably less, adopted a Republican healthcare plan. Yet...still despised????
-2 massive tax increases (fiscal cliff & Obamacare)
-massive spending increases (the 800 billion stimulus plan was loaded with social welfare spending) (W was liberal on spending too)
-attempted amnesty by exec fiat
-massive regulatory increases
-appointed liberal judges
Yeah, a centrist conk..
And just because Obamacare has some similarities to a plan Romney adopted in a small state doesn't make it a Republican plan.
maybe he's the true conservative..
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Слушай.BDKJMU wrote:Damn it, I'm getting a "To read the full story, subscribe or Log In".
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* = Progtard wet dream issues.BDKJMU wrote:There you go again with your Obama is a centrist conk nonsense.kalm wrote:
Governed like a centrist conk. Pretended to cut the deficit while doimg very little to fix the systemic problems. No major FP blunders that hurt the mainland anymore than His predecessor and probably less, adopted a Republican healthcare plan. Yet...still despised????
*-2 massive tax increases (fiscal cliff & Obamacare)
*-1st 2 years in office when he was able too with a near donk supermajority massive spending increases (the 800 billion stimulus plan was loaded with social welfare spending). He look like a conk on spending in his last 6 years because he was constrained by a conk congress) (W was liberal on spending too)
*-massive regulatory increases
*-appointed liberal judges
*-attempted amnesty by exec fiat
What else have I left off. Yeah, a centrist conk..
**And just because Obamacare has some similarities to a plan Romney adopted in a small state doesn't make it a Republican plan. Obamacare, written 100% by Pelosi/Reid, with ZERO Republican input or votes, a Republican plan.
** = A "Republican Plan" (I lol'd a little) that received absolutely NO Conk votes.
kkkalm turning into a Palousian lilly white bread version of kkklean.
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Palousian or Pelosian?Baldy wrote:* = Progtard wet dream issues.BDKJMU wrote:
There you go again with your Obama is a centrist conk nonsense.
*-2 massive tax increases (fiscal cliff & Obamacare)
*-1st 2 years in office when he was able too with a near donk supermajority massive spending increases (the 800 billion stimulus plan was loaded with social welfare spending). He look like a conk on spending in his last 6 years because he was constrained by a conk congress) (W was liberal on spending too)
*-massive regulatory increases
*-appointed liberal judges
*-attempted amnesty by exec fiat
What else have I left off. Yeah, a centrist conk..
**And just because Obamacare has some similarities to a plan Romney adopted in a small state doesn't make it a Republican plan. Obamacare, written 100% by Pelosi/Reid, with ZERO Republican input or votes, a Republican plan.
** = A "Republican Plan" (I lol'd a little) that received absolutely NO Conk votes.
kkkalm turning into a Palousian lilly white bread version of kkklean.
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Ivytalk wrote:Palousian or Pelosian?Baldy wrote:
* = Progtard wet dream issues.
** = A "Republican Plan" (I lol'd a little) that received absolutely NO Conk votes.
kkkalm turning into a Palousian lilly white bread version of kkklean.
One in the same. He'd hit it.
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I always dug old broads with Botox, dyed hair, and a full set of dentures.Baldy wrote:Ivytalk wrote: Palousian or Pelosian?
One in the same. He'd hit it.
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And as 93 pointed out in another thead, she has nice old girl cans.Ivytalk wrote:I always dug old broads with Botox, dyed hair, and a full set of dentures.Baldy wrote:
One in the same. He'd hit it.
Anyhoo...just glad we've survived our descent into a socialistic dystopia.
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His legacy will be one word "Obamacare".
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Much more useful than implants...Ivytalk wrote:I always dug old broads with Botox, dyed hair, and a full set of dentures.Baldy wrote:
One in the same. He'd hit it.
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I have to disagree on the foreign policy part.kalm wrote:Governed like a centrist conk. Pretended to cut the deficit while doimg very little to fix the systemic problems. No major FP blunders that hurt the mainland anymore than His predecessor and probably less, adopted a Republican healthcare plan. Yet...still despised????BDKJMU wrote:
Obama was just the latest president in a LONG line of Presidents who have cumulatively cemented the mindset that we must beat down every nail in the world, and that it is America's duty to use the military first.
We are so invested in this paradigm that although we disagree on what merits military force (right now, it is "protecting innocent civilians" ... before that it was "preempting WMD attacks on America") both left and right are more than willing to expend blood and treasure on things that have absolutely no effect on American interests.
Under Obama, we intentionally created a failed state and terrorist haven in Libya (I say intentionally because no same person could have predicted any other outcome) and we have greatly prolonged the rebellion in Syria. Both of these actions have involved direct force by the US, mostly from the air.
Anyone who believes that the United States should not be involved in foreign civil wars cannot say that Obama hasn't been a foreign policy failure in the same vein as Bush II (Iraq), and Clinton (Bosnia Herzogovinia, Kosovo- we laid the groundwork for the next civil war there which will happen within 10 years) and Reagan (Lebanon).
Additionally, Obama made it very clear that he was rarely prepared to back up his words with actions (words that never should have been uttered, BTW)- like with the red line in Syria and the rhetoric over Ukraine. Our issues with Russia are the fault of every President since Reagan, but Obama made them much worse by publicly showing weakness in situations that called for simply doing nothing.
I'll give Obama props on some things, and I personally like the guy (in spite of the politics I disagree with) but saying he has no major blunders in foreign policy is as laughable as saying W had none.
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Damn fine post and that's why I carefully applied the caveat "anymore than his predecessor".CID1990 wrote:I have to disagree on the foreign policy part.kalm wrote:
Governed like a centrist conk. Pretended to cut the deficit while doimg very little to fix the systemic problems. No major FP blunders that hurt the mainland anymore than His predecessor and probably less, adopted a Republican healthcare plan. Yet...still despised????
Obama was just the latest president in a LONG line of Presidents who have cumulatively cemented the mindset that we must beat down every nail in the world, and that it is America's duty to use the military first.
We are so invested in this paradigm that although we disagree on what merits military force (right now, it is "protecting innocent civilians" ... before that it was "preempting WMD attacks on America") both left and right are more than willing to expend blood and treasure on things that have absolutely no effect on American interests.
Under Obama, we intentionally created a failed state and terrorist haven in Libya (I say intentionally because no same person could have predicted any other outcome) and we have greatly prolonged the rebellion in Syria. Both of these actions have involved direct force by the US, mostly from the air.
Anyone who believes that the United States should not be involved in foreign civil wars cannot say that Obama hasn't been a foreign policy failure in the same vein as Bush II (Iraq), and Clinton (Bosnia Herzogovinia, Kosovo- we laid the groundwork for the next civil war there which will happen within 10 years) and Reagan (Lebanon).
Additionally, Obama made it very clear that he was rarely prepared to back up his words with actions (words that never should have been uttered, BTW)- like with the red line in Syria and the rhetoric over Ukraine. Our issues with Russia are the fault of every President since Reagan, but Obama made them much worse by publicly showing weakness in situations that called for simply doing nothing.
I'll give Obama props on some things, and I personally like the guy (in spite of the politics I disagree with) but saying he has no major blunders in foreign policy is as laughable as saying W had none.
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I'd fuck the hell out of Pelosi. Knock the dust off that box, smear some skjellyfetti on it, and go to town. Sue me.kalm wrote:And as 93 pointed out in another thead, she has nice old girl cans.Ivytalk wrote: I always dug old broads with Botox, dyed hair, and a full set of dentures.
Anyhoo...just glad we've survived our descent into a socialistic dystopia.
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JFK beat you to it.93henfan wrote:I'd **** the hell out of Pelosi. Knock the dust off that box, smear some skjellyfetti on it, and go to town. Sue me.kalm wrote:
And as 93 pointed out in another thead, she has nice old girl cans.
Anyhoo...just glad we've survived our descent into a socialistic dystopia.
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Gil Dobie wrote:JFK beat you to it. It was okay for Presidents to hang out with college coed's in the 60's.93henfan wrote:
I'd **** the hell out of Pelosi. Knock the dust off that box, smear some skjellyfetti on it, and go to town. Sue me.
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Black and white vintage cans, 93!Gil Dobie wrote:JFK beat you to it.93henfan wrote:
I'd **** the hell out of Pelosi. Knock the dust off that box, smear some skjellyfetti on it, and go to town. Sue me.