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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:CNN is definitely sliding off into MSNBC territory-

Both networks are currently passing FOX in ratings

The fluctuation in ratings in all of these networks based on who is in power is yet another strong piece of evidence that they play to biases as a matter of policy

Also interesting that while Obama was in office, CNN and MSNBC toyed with moving slightly to the right to stop the ratings bleeding. Now its FOX contemplating these things

In the end, after years of fluctuating biases in "reporting" spanning from Bill Clinton to Trump- if there is anyone who thinks these networks have any real value left ..... the Sunday talking heads programs are about the only credible slots left. All else is Infowars TV
Which part of this ^ is based on the Alinsky playbook..?

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93henfan wrote:Does Kalm ever post sober anymore?
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:CNN is definitely sliding off into MSNBC territory-

Both networks are currently passing FOX in ratings

The fluctuation in ratings in all of these networks based on who is in power is yet another strong piece of evidence that they play to biases as a matter of policy

Also interesting that while Obama was in office, CNN and MSNBC toyed with moving slightly to the right to stop the ratings bleeding. Now its FOX contemplating these things

In the end, after years of fluctuating biases in "reporting" spanning from Bill Clinton to Trump- if there is anyone who thinks these networks have any real value left ..... the Sunday talking heads programs are about the only credible slots left. All else is Infowars TV
Which part of this ^ is based on the Alinsky playbook..?

:rofl:

Since he's still pulling all the strings apparently
I don't know, I've never read his "playbook"

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CID1990 wrote: The fluctuation in ratings in all of these networks based on who is in power is yet another strong piece of evidence that they play to biases as a matter of policy
Fox was doing great during Dubya's term. MSNBC was doing shitty.

Fox had a much easier time defending a competent Republican president.

It's much harder to basically ignore the top news stories of the day and manufacture stories like Seth Rich and attract viewers. The problem is that people into the Seth Rich-type stories aren't watching Fox - they're watching InfoWars or Cernovich Periscopes.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
CID1990 wrote: The fluctuation in ratings in all of these networks based on who is in power is yet another strong piece of evidence that they play to biases as a matter of policy
Fox was doing great during Dubya's term. MSNBC was doing shitty.

Fox had a much easier time defending a competent Republican president.

It's much harder to basically ignore the top news stories of the day and manufacture stories like Seth Rich and attract viewers. The problem is that people into the Seth Rich-type stories aren't watching Fox - they're watching InfoWars or Cernovich Periscopes.
InfoWars...what a crock. :lol:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
CID1990 wrote: The fluctuation in ratings in all of these networks based on who is in power is yet another strong piece of evidence that they play to biases as a matter of policy
Fox was doing great during Dubya's term. MSNBC was doing shitty.

Fox had a much easier time defending a competent Republican president.

It's much harder to basically ignore the top news stories of the day and manufacture stories like Seth Rich and attract viewers. The problem is that people into the Seth Rich-type stories aren't watching Fox - they're watching InfoWars or Cernovich Periscopes.
Oh I see

MSNBC and CNN aren't pure political infotainment like FOX then- gotcha

BTW the networks weren't completely berserk about Bush- but the liberal public used similar apocalyptic language when it came to Bush. The climate in those days made things much more of a wash- and as I was trying to imply- this is a gradual process, not an overnight one

FOX's ratings went up when Obama took office. CNN and MSNBC are now heading higher then they've been in a long time.... forever in the case of MSNBC

Let's not try to minimize that the left has its own biases shall we
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I'm not saying MSNBC and CNN aren't political infotainment. I was disagreeing with you implying that Fox isn't doing well because a Republican is in power and MSNBC and CNN are doing well because they get to play the opposition role.

I'm saying that didn't happen at all during GWB's presidency. Fox dominated the ratings.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:I'm not saying MSNBC and CNN aren't political infotainment. I was disagreeing with you implying that Fox isn't doing well because a Republican is in power and MSNBC and CNN are doing well because they get to play the opposition role.

I'm saying that didn't happen at all during GWB's presidency. Fox dominated the ratings.
FOX's ratings were better during Bush than they were during Obama?

MSNBC and CNN were worse during Bush but better during Obama?

This seems to be a very insignificant nit you are picking


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This is like watching two kids at a playground argue who's dad could beat up the other...
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Chizzang wrote:This is like watching two kids at a playground argue who's dad could beat up the other...
It reminds me of you and JoltinJoe
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:This is like watching two kids at a playground argue who's dad could beat up the other...
It reminds me of you and JoltinJoe
Pffft...
Joe will tell you I'm a pseudo intellectual hack with issues
He's never lost an argument about religion or faith or the meaning of life or God

he's literally undefeated (Just ask him)

Where as you and Jelly seem to take joy in prodding and poking
never really quite claiming victory - just rubbing the other guys nose in a valid point - seems to be enough

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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
It reminds me of you and JoltinJoe
Pffft...
Joe will tell you I'm a pseudo intellectual hack with issues
He's never lost an argument about religion or faith or the meaning of life or God

he's literally undefeated (Just ask him)

Where as you and Jelly seem to take joy in prodding and poking
never really quite claiming victory - just rubbing the other guys nose in a valid point - seems to be enough

:nod:
It's foreplay prior to 'jelly mounting him. :coffee:
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
It reminds me of you and JoltinJoe
Pffft...
Joe will tell you I'm a pseudo intellectual hack with issues
He's never lost an argument about religion or faith or the meaning of life or God

he's literally undefeated (Just ask him)

Where as you and Jelly seem to take joy in prodding and poking
never really quite claiming victory - just rubbing the other guys nose in a valid point - seems to be enough

:nod:
I don't have the need to claim victory (but Jelly is still desperately searching for one)

I just leave it as implied.... and leave the football spiking to AZ and BDK (and you.... see my sig)
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houndawg wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Pffft...
Joe will tell you I'm a pseudo intellectual hack with issues
He's never lost an argument about religion or faith or the meaning of life or God

he's literally undefeated (Just ask him)

Where as you and Jelly seem to take joy in prodding and poking
never really quite claiming victory - just rubbing the other guys nose in a valid point - seems to be enough

:nod:
It's foreplay prior to 'jelly mounting him. :coffee:
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