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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

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AZGrizFan wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
The question isn't whether or not the current recovery is slow. It's whether the estimates indicate anything changed with Trump taking office. Here is a graph of annual real GDP growth from https://www.statista.com/statistics/188 ... ince-1990/:

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There's no indication there that things changed when Trump took office. Yes, 2017 was higher than 2016. But it was well within the range of variation since the "great recession." The growth rate for 2017 was 4th among the 8 years following the big dip in 2009.

You can also look at it quarterly. Here's a graph of that from https://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/glance.htm:

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I don't think that shows any big "upswing" from the pattern. In fact, I think the first five quarters indicated on the graph were on balance better than the last five quarters that are the quarters since Trump took office.

There just isn't any indication of the con Trump and his people are trying to establish. There is no support for believing that things were awful then all of a sudden they improved dramatically and things are "great again" now that Trump is in office.
And three of Trumps 5 quarters are higher than 8 of the 9 previous quarters heading into his presidency.
And Trump didn’t even enter office until almost a month into the 1st qtr 2017, so that chart only shows his 1st 4 full quarters. So really 3 of his 1st 4 full quarters are higher than 9 of the previous 10..
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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Watching JSO attempt to joust with Flaggy and AZ about economics is like watching a slow-mo replay of Pickett's Charge.
You disagree with JSO’s point? :suspicious:
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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
You disagree with JSO’s point? :suspicious:
Of course. I disagree with almost everything he says.
So we can't blame Carter for Reagan's first two years? :geek:
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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Of course. I disagree with almost everything he says.
So we can't blame Carter for Reagan's first two years? :geek:
Go back and read Flaggy’s post.
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CAA Flagship wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Watching JSO attempt to joust with Flaggy and AZ about economics is like watching a slow-mo replay of Pickett's Charge.
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
So we can't blame Carter for Reagan's first two years? :geek:
Go back and read Flaggy’s post.
JSO suggested that Trump is sustaining momentum. Flaggy thinks Trump deserves more credit.

UNI88 (your favorite moderate) has cautioned in the past against attributing economic conditions too soon.

I agree and I'd say 'we shall see'. :coffee:
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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Go back and read Flaggy’s post.
JSO suggested that Trump is sustaining momentum. Flaggy thinks Trump deserves more credit.

UNI88 (your favorite moderate) has cautioned in the past against attributing economic conditions too soon.

I agree and I'd say 'we shall see'. :coffee:
Fair enough.

But UNI88 isn’t my favorite moderate on this board.

You are! :luv:

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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
JSO suggested that Trump is sustaining momentum. Flaggy thinks Trump deserves more credit.

UNI88 (your favorite moderate) has cautioned in the past against attributing economic conditions too soon.

I agree and I'd say 'we shall see'. :coffee:
Fair enough.

But UNI88 isn’t my favorite moderate on this board.

You are! :luv:

No homo.
Ha! In your face Ganny!

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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Fair enough.

But UNI88 isn’t my favorite moderate on this board.

You are! :luv:

No homo.
Ha! In your face Ganny!

:mrgreen:
Ganny makes sense for awhile, until he goes off on his Mr. Know-it-all, all-but-dissertation-community-college-history-perfesser persona. 8-)
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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
JSO suggested that Trump is sustaining momentum. Flaggy thinks Trump deserves more credit.

UNI88 (your favorite moderate) has cautioned in the past against attributing economic conditions too soon.

I agree and I'd say 'we shall see'. :coffee:
Fair enough.

But UNI88 isn’t my favorite moderate on this board.

You are! :luv:

No homo.
Moderate?!?! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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89Hen wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Fair enough.

But UNI88 isn’t my favorite moderate on this board.

You are! :luv:

No homo.
Moderate?!?! :lol: :lol: :lol:
And ... there’s 89. Mr. Buzzkill. :roll:
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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Fair enough.

But UNI88 isn’t my favorite moderate on this board.

You are! :luv:

No homo.
Ha! In your face Ganny!

:mrgreen:
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Ivytalk wrote:
89Hen wrote: Moderate?!?! :lol: :lol: :lol:
And ... there’s 89. Mr. Buzzkill. :roll:
I believe he won Mr. Curmudgeon. Give him the respect he is due.


Sincerely,

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Ibanez wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:
And ... there’s 89. Mr. Buzzkill. :roll:
I believe he won Mr. Curmudgeon. Give him the respect he is due.


Sincerely,

Mr. Smart-Ass Non Contributor :thumb:
Smart ass implies intelligence...... :roll:
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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
Ha! In your face Ganny!

:mrgreen:
Ganny makes sense for awhile, until he goes off on his Mr. Know-it-all, all-but-dissertation-community-college-history-perfesser persona. 8-)
I get it, I understand it irks people when I'm habitually correct. Darn it. :rofl:
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kalm wrote:
Ibanez wrote: I believe he won Mr. Curmudgeon. Give him the respect he is due.


Sincerely,

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Ibanez wrote:
kalm wrote:
Smart ass implies intelligence...... :roll:
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I'M SMART!
You are no longer Raul.

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GannonFan wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Ganny makes sense for awhile, until he goes off on his Mr. Know-it-all, all-but-dissertation-community-college-history-perfesser persona. 8-)
I get it, I understand it irks people when I'm habitually correct. Darn it. :rofl:
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Ivytalk wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
I get it, I understand it irks people when I'm habitually correct. Darn it. :rofl:
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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Go back and read Flaggy’s post.
JSO suggested that Trump is sustaining momentum. Flaggy thinks Trump deserves more credit.

UNI88 (your favorite moderate) has cautioned in the past against attributing economic conditions too soon.

I agree and I'd say 'we shall see'. :coffee:
Hooooooold on there Babalouie. I didn't say anything about Trump deserving more credit. I'm saying that he has done the things that were needed to be done, but we won't see the results for a while down the road. Of course, we will never be able to compare alternative routes, but I don't see too many economists saying he is doing the wrong things. The only economists complaining are talking about the deficit. Fuck them. Where were they the last 6 years?
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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
JSO suggested that Trump is sustaining momentum. Flaggy thinks Trump deserves more credit.

UNI88 (your favorite moderate) has cautioned in the past against attributing economic conditions too soon.

I agree and I'd say 'we shall see'. :coffee:
Fair enough.

But UNI88 isn’t my favorite moderate on this board.

You are! :luv:

No homo.
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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
Ha! In your face Ganny!

:mrgreen:
Ganny makes sense for awhile, until he goes off on his Mr. Know-it-all, all-but-dissertation-community-college-history-perfesser persona. 8-)
I picture Ganny looking like Kent from Real Genius ...

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UNI88 wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Fair enough.

But UNI88 isn’t my favorite moderate on this board.

You are! :luv:

No homo.
I'm devastated! Ivy you told me that I was the one ... :crybaby:
Fear not, 88! You’re a solid center-striper! :thumb:

As is Pepe LePew :tiptoe:
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UNI88 wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Ganny makes sense for awhile, until he goes off on his Mr. Know-it-all, all-but-dissertation-community-college-history-perfesser persona. 8-)
I picture Ganny looking like Kent from Real Genius ...

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UNI88 wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Ganny makes sense for awhile, until he goes off on his Mr. Know-it-all, all-but-dissertation-community-college-history-perfesser persona. 8-)
I picture Ganny looking like Kent from Real Genius ...

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With a little more grey at the temples... :thumb:
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