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AZGrizFan wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: Cities are certainly not perfect, but at least their governments make an effort to pull the poor out of poverty, whether through gentrification or providing free medical services, job opportunities, social services and welfare. Ultimately there's only so much you can do... poverty is a complicated issue...but statistics back up that the urban poor have a better chance of escaping poverty than the rural poor.
They’re not pulling the poor out of poverty. They’re pulling everyone ELSE down in the process. 60 years of a “war on poverty”, with virtually zero results. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result....
This. Trip seriously needs to take a look at some of the donk controlled cities around the country and see if they are better off now than they were 50 years ago. Absolutely delusional.
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As dangerous as Hillary - The Dagger - Clinton? :)
Moreso.
As dangerous as hipster millennial with a man-bun at a women’s march?
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SDHornet wrote:
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They’re not pulling the poor out of poverty. They’re pulling everyone ELSE down in the process. 60 years of a “war on poverty”, with virtually zero results. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result....
This. Trip seriously needs to take a look at some of the donk controlled cities around the country and see if they are better off now than they were 50 years ago. Absolutely delusional.
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Like I've said before, there are problems.

But cities are certainly way better off than rural America is doing. Let's just ignore the poverty and drug rates there, as well as the utter population declines. NYC, DC, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Houston, Dallas are just a few that are better off than they used to be.

Yes, Baltimore certainly is not, but it has a way better chance to reinvent itself than other communities. Like I've said many times, they key to staying relevant is adapting to a changing world (aka. progressiveness).

PS. I have a life, especially on weekends. Catching up on CS is low on the priority list. Very low.
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∞∞∞ wrote:Like I've said before, there are problems.

But cities are certainly way better off than rural America is doing. Let's just ignore the poverty and drug rates there, as well as the utter population declines.
Well, you surprised me by showing up. You cannot be serious about crime being higher in small towns. Inner cities are a mess. But keep voting Dem like they have for 60 years and enjoy.

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JohnStOnge wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: John,
Pleas list of all the negative things that have happened under the Trump Administration.
This is to elaborate on one of the items I listed above while breaking up what would've been an even longer post. Very soon after Trump started running for office, I could see that he had a conscious strategy of trying to discredit the free press. My conclusion at the time was that he is someone who lies a lot and has a lot of skeletons in his closet so he was trying to create an atmosphere whereby, when negative information came out about him, people would not believe it.

I think that's still going on and I think his level of success in that regard is disturbing. I think that having people buy his crap about "Fake News" is very dangerous. I think the free press is an important control on government and having a President who constantly attacks it in an effort to diminish or even neutralize its effectiveness in that regard is a very bad thing. It's more important, I think, than things like GDP growth, unemployment rates, and stock market trends. It is something that is important to the basic nature of the Republic.

A similar thing is going on with Federal Law Enforcement, though I didn't see that emerge until later.
The "fake news" stuff does not matter. If a news agency uncovers something that is wrong, it's not up to public opinion to determine what the punishment should be, it's up to the laws.
And there has never been a President with as many journalists and media figures trying to bury him. Honestly, I'm shocked they haven't come up with anything yet. You know damn well he is guilty of a lot of things in the past, but.............nothing. This should tell you how far the journalism profession has fallen. The anti-Trumpers are the most focused and well-funded group that ever opposed a President and they can't come up with anything worth a shit. :ohno: :ohno:
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CAA Flagship wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
This is to elaborate on one of the items I listed above while breaking up what would've been an even longer post. Very soon after Trump started running for office, I could see that he had a conscious strategy of trying to discredit the free press. My conclusion at the time was that he is someone who lies a lot and has a lot of skeletons in his closet so he was trying to create an atmosphere whereby, when negative information came out about him, people would not believe it.

I think that's still going on and I think his level of success in that regard is disturbing. I think that having people buy his crap about "Fake News" is very dangerous. I think the free press is an important control on government and having a President who constantly attacks it in an effort to diminish or even neutralize its effectiveness in that regard is a very bad thing. It's more important, I think, than things like GDP growth, unemployment rates, and stock market trends. It is something that is important to the basic nature of the Republic.

A similar thing is going on with Federal Law Enforcement, though I didn't see that emerge until later.
The "fake news" stuff does not matter. If a news agency uncovers something that is wrong, it's not up to public opinion to determine what the punishment should be, it's up to the laws.
And there has never been a President with as many journalists and media figures trying to bury him. Honestly, I'm shocked they haven't come up with anything yet. You know damn well he is guilty of a lot of things in the past, but.............nothing. This should tell you how far the journalism profession has fallen. The anti-Trumpers are the most focused and well-funded group that ever opposed a President and they can't come up with anything worth a shit. :ohno: :ohno:
Hey now, Mueller is looking at Trumps tweets now, surely they'll find something now. :rofl:
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Densedawg, typical leftist gone full retard TDS who thinks that Trump supporters are Nazis :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: You wouldn’t know what a Nazi was if your life depended on it.. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: But like the rest of your leftist ilk, please keep lebeling Trump
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We saw your true colors at Charlottesville, BDKKK. :coffee:
Wrong again Densedawg, was 200+ miles away. Sucks for you being too old and senile to join your comrades at Antifa protests.. :lol:
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BDKJMU wrote:
houndawg wrote:
We saw your true colors at Charlottesville, BDKKK. :coffee:
Wrong again Densedawg, was 200+ miles away. Sucks for you being too old and senile to join your comrades at Antifa protests.. :lol:
You were there in spirit, still are. :coffee:


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CAA Flagship wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
This is to elaborate on one of the items I listed above while breaking up what would've been an even longer post. Very soon after Trump started running for office, I could see that he had a conscious strategy of trying to discredit the free press. My conclusion at the time was that he is someone who lies a lot and has a lot of skeletons in his closet so he was trying to create an atmosphere whereby, when negative information came out about him, people would not believe it.

I think that's still going on and I think his level of success in that regard is disturbing. I think that having people buy his crap about "Fake News" is very dangerous. I think the free press is an important control on government and having a President who constantly attacks it in an effort to diminish or even neutralize its effectiveness in that regard is a very bad thing. It's more important, I think, than things like GDP growth, unemployment rates, and stock market trends. It is something that is important to the basic nature of the Republic.

A similar thing is going on with Federal Law Enforcement, though I didn't see that emerge until later.
The "fake news" stuff does not matter. If a news agency uncovers something that is wrong, it's not up to public opinion to determine what the punishment should be, it's up to the laws.
And there has never been a President with as many journalists and media figures trying to bury him. Honestly, I'm shocked they haven't come up with anything yet. You know damn well he is guilty of a lot of things in the past, but.............nothing. This should tell you how far the journalism profession has fallen. The anti-Trumpers are the most focused and well-funded group that ever opposed a President and they can't come up with anything worth a ****. :ohno: :ohno:

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css75 wrote:
SDHornet wrote: This. Trip seriously needs to take a look at some of the donk controlled cities around the country and see if they are better off now than they were 50 years ago. Absolutely delusional.
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You don't know shit about 50 years ago. :coffee:
Violent crime in cities has been trending down for 30 years from its peak after...you guessed it...the Reagan Revolution.

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kalm wrote:
houndawg wrote:
You don't know **** about 50 years ago. :coffee:
Violent crime in cities has been trending down for 30 years from its peak after...you guessed it...the Reagan Revolution.

:mrgreen: :lol: :clap:
Ouch!

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∞∞∞ wrote:Like I've said before, there are problems.

But cities are certainly way better off than rural America is doing. Let's just ignore the poverty and drug rates there, as well as the utter population declines. NYC, DC, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Houston, Dallas are just a few that are better off than they used to be.
I still haven't seen evidence of cities being way better of than rural America is doing. I have many relatives that live in rural America, and they appear to be doing just a well, if not better than most of the people I know in urban America.
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kalm wrote:
houndawg wrote:
You don't know shit about 50 years ago. :coffee:
Violent crime in cities has been trending down for 30 years from its peak after...you guessed it...the Reagan Revolution.

:mrgreen: :lol: :clap:
Thank you again, President Reagan. Good to know that initiatives instituted during the Reagan Revolution has had a lasting effect on lowering crime rates. :thumb:
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∞∞∞ wrote:Like I've said before, there are problems.

But cities are certainly way better off than rural America is doing.
The top states in quality of life appear to have a lot of rural residents, compared to the bottom of the list, which have or are near some of the largest cities in the USA.

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#1 North Dakota 2 3
#2 Minnesota 12 4
#3 Wisconsin 20 5
#4 New Hampshire 13 7
#5 South Dakota 6 14
#6 Mississippi 9 17
#7 Arkansas 5 21
#8 New Mexico 17 11
#9 Iowa 18 10
#10 Colorado 8 20

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#40 Ohio 48 29
#41 Virginia 39 44
#42 Louisiana 49 31
#43 Nevada 30 50
#44 Pennsylvania 45 41
#45 West Virginia 47 40
#46 Texas 38 46
#47 Illinois 50 35
#48 Indiana 46 43
#49 New Jersey 32 49
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∞∞∞ wrote:Like I've said before, there are problems.

But cities are certainly way better off than rural America is doing. Let's just ignore the poverty and drug rates there, as well as the utter population declines. NYC, DC, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Houston, Dallas are just a few that are better off than they used to be.

Yes, Baltimore certainly is not, but it has a way better chance to reinvent itself than other communities. Like I've said many times, they key to staying relevant is adapting to a changing world (aka. progressiveness).

PS. I have a life, especially on weekends. Catching up on CS is low on the priority list. Very low.

How much time have you spent in rural America?
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HI54UNI wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:Like I've said before, there are problems.

But cities are certainly way better off than rural America is doing. Let's just ignore the poverty and drug rates there, as well as the utter population declines. NYC, DC, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Houston, Dallas are just a few that are better off than they used to be.

Yes, Baltimore certainly is not, but it has a way better chance to reinvent itself than other communities. Like I've said many times, they key to staying relevant is adapting to a changing world (aka. progressiveness).

PS. I have a life, especially on weekends. Catching up on CS is low on the priority list. Very low.

How much time have you spent in rural America?
I lived in West Virginia a long time ago (and that sucked). The most recent trip I took was two weeks between Minnesota, South Dakota, Iowa, Wyoming, and North Dakota...stayed in Sioux Falls, SD; Rapid City, SD; Lemmon, SD, and finished up in Minneapolis.

That part of rural America is certainly beautiful, if not completely gorgeous. The people are awesome, but damn is it boring and everything is falling apart. I totally understand their anger, but as great as the people were (and we discussed politics), no one wanted to actually do anything new.

Minneapolis was amazing though; it's one of the greatest American cities I've ever visited. Lively, progressive, multicultural, great food, cares for nature, new developments, etc.

On the other hand, Lemmon was surprisingly charming for a small town in the middle of nowhere. Not a place I'd stay for more than 2-3 days, but it had a bit going for it for its size. Plus I was there for the Boss Cowman Rodeo, so they fed the entire town and all visitors a free steak dinner which was sweet.
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HI54UNI wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:Like I've said before, there are problems.

But cities are certainly way better off than rural America is doing. Let's just ignore the poverty and drug rates there, as well as the utter population declines. NYC, DC, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Houston, Dallas are just a few that are better off than they used to be.

Yes, Baltimore certainly is not, but it has a way better chance to reinvent itself than other communities. Like I've said many times, they key to staying relevant is adapting to a changing world (aka. progressiveness).

PS. I have a life, especially on weekends. Catching up on CS is low on the priority list. Very low.

How much time have you spent in rural America?
He knows and sees all from his perch in rural Washington, DC. :lol: :lol:
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Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
Violent crime in cities has been trending down for 30 years from its peak after...you guessed it...the Reagan Revolution.

:mrgreen: :lol: :clap:
Thank you again, President Reagan. Good to know that initiatives instituted during the Reagan Revolution has had a lasting effect on lowering crime rates. :thumb:
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How much time have you spent in rural America?
I lived in West Virginia a long time ago (and that sucked). The most recent trip I took was two weeks between Minnesota, South Dakota, Iowa, Wyoming, and North Dakota...stayed in Sioux Falls, SD; Rapid City, SD; Lemmon, SD, and finished up in Minneapolis.

That part of rural America is certainly beautiful, if not completely gorgeous. The people are awesome, but damn is it boring and everything is falling apart. I totally understand their anger, but as great as the people were (and we discussed politics), no one wanted to actually do anything new.

Minneapolis was amazing though; it's one of the greatest American cities I've ever visited. Lively, progressive, multicultural, great food, cares for nature, new developments, etc.

On the other hand, Lemmon was surprisingly charming for a small town in the middle of nowhere. Not a place I'd stay for more than 2-3 days, but it had a bit going for it for its size. Plus I was there for the Boss Cowman Rodeo, so they fed the entire town and all visitors a free steak dinner which was sweet.
Sounds like some quality time. Lot of great community events in small towns across rural America. If there is a wedding dance, almost everyone in the county shows up. Many all-class reunions in the small towns, annual events, local sports where most of the town shows up to watch. Just a great over-all quality of life.
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∞∞∞ wrote: I lived in West Virginia a long time ago (and that sucked). The most recent trip I took was two weeks between Minnesota, South Dakota, Iowa, Wyoming, and North Dakota...stayed in Sioux Falls, SD; Rapid City, SD; Lemmon, SD, and finished up in Minneapolis.

That part of rural America is certainly beautiful, if not completely gorgeous. The people are awesome, but damn is it boring and everything is falling apart. I totally understand their anger, but as great as the people were (and we discussed politics), no one wanted to actually do anything new.

Minneapolis was amazing though; it's one of the greatest American cities I've ever visited. Lively, progressive, multicultural, great food, cares for nature, new developments, etc.

On the other hand, Lemmon was surprisingly charming for a small town in the middle of nowhere. Not a place I'd stay for more than 2-3 days, but it had a bit going for it for its size. Plus I was there for the Boss Cowman Rodeo, so they fed the entire town and all visitors a free steak dinner which was sweet.
so your entire position is based off of one trip to the Midwest and when you lived in West Virginia as a baby. :rofl:
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∞∞∞ wrote: The most recent trip I took was...
so your entire position is based off of one trip to the Midwest and when you lived in West Virginia as a baby. :rofl:
Bolded for you. :?

My two clients are a) airlines and b) National Parks Service. It allows me to travel a decent amount, although in short bursts. And yes, for the airlines it's mostly to large cities. Opposite is true for NPS.

ps. I personally love the urban life; I have no issues with those who want to live a more rural lifestyle. But if that's your choice, don't bitch and hold back progress in other areas because you fear change.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
so your entire position is based off of one trip to the Midwest and when you lived in West Virginia as a baby. :rofl:
Bolded for you. :?

My two clients are a) airlines and b) National Parks Service. It allows me to travel a decent amount, although in short bursts. And yes, for the airlines it's mostly to large cities. Opposite is true for NPS.

ps. I personally love the urban life; I have no issues with those who want to live a more rural lifestyle. But if that's your choice, don't bitch and hold back progress in other areas because you fear change.
People I know are not afraid of change. What kind of changes are you talking about?
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∞∞∞ wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
so your entire position is based off of one trip to the Midwest and when you lived in West Virginia as a baby. :rofl:
Bolded for you. :?

My two clients are a) airlines and b) National Parks Service. It allows me to travel a decent amount, although in short bursts. And yes, for the airlines it's mostly to large cities. Opposite is true for NPS.

ps. I personally love the urban life; I have no issues with those who want to live a more rural lifestyle. But if that's your choice, don't bitch and hold back progress in other areas because you fear change.
Don’t push “what works” for you in urban areas on people who live in rural areas. See how that works?
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