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Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Postby houndawg » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:52 am

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I have to ask, why Mongolia? I've never seen pictures or videos of there that don't just show empty desolation. It's like a colder, more inhospitable Afghanistan, but maybe with some cooler history.

One of my old law partners did a trek there. Some spectacularly beautiful areas.


Part of it is Siberian forest
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Postby kalm » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:24 am

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Munich, Bishkek, and Ulan Baator are my bucket list posts

Guess which ones my wife won’t go to


I have to ask, why Mongolia? I've never seen pictures or videos of there that don't just show empty desolation. It's like a colder, more inhospitable Afghanistan, but maybe with some cooler history.


Yeah...it looks just hideous...or as many fly fishing adventurists claim...quite a bit like Montana. :lol:

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For what it's worth, CID, I did a little recon on Kyrgystan fishing as well for ya and there is a sub-species of browns called amu darya trout which occupy the many rivers.

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Postby GannonFan » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:26 am

kalm wrote:
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I have to ask, why Mongolia? I've never seen pictures or videos of there that don't just show empty desolation. It's like a colder, more inhospitable Afghanistan, but maybe with some cooler history.


Yeah...it looks just hideous...or as many fly fishing adventurists claim...quite a bit like Montana. :lol:

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Fly fishing for taimen is on my bucket list...

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For what it's worth, CID, I did a little recon on Kyrgystan fishing as well for ya and there is a sub-species of browns called amu darya trout which occupy the many rivers.

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The snark isn't really necessary, I honestly didn't know much about the area. Heck, I didn't really know much about the Upper Peninsula of Michigan before my wife decided it was a place she wanted to go and it was fantastic. Thanks for the photos and insight - I'm not a fly fisherman and never will be, but it looks like great hiking.
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Postby Grizalltheway » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:33 am

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Man - I love Munich! I hope you get posted there,you'd have a blast.


....there is a little town in Bavaria called Tuttlingen where lives a shapely German lass by the name of Valtrud...

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Postby HI54UNI » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:34 am

Focus guys! This thread is about all the Russian collusion Jelly has been telling us about! :roll:
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Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Postby kalm » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:40 am

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kalm wrote:
Yeah...it looks just hideous...or as many fly fishing adventurists claim...quite a bit like Montana. :lol:

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Fly fishing for taimen is on my bucket list...

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For what it's worth, CID, I did a little recon on Kyrgystan fishing as well for ya and there is a sub-species of browns called amu darya trout which occupy the many rivers.

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The snark isn't really necessary, I honestly didn't know much about the area. Heck, I didn't really know much about the Upper Peninsula of Michigan before my wife decided it was a place she wanted to go and it was fantastic. Thanks for the photos and insight - I'm not a fly fisherman and never will be, but it looks like great hiking.


I apologize for the snark my friend. But if you and I don't display snark towards each other than what else do we got? ;)
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Postby kalm » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:53 am

So is the Trump - Putin meeting in private and taking the notes away from the interpreter really that big of a deal? Haven't leaders been meeting "off-record" since Zog met with Thag to steal Zag's wheel idea?

It seems like more tribalism. If Obama had met with the Iranian leader and asked everyone to leave the room, I'm sure there would have been much hand wringing from the right as well.
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Postby GannonFan » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:14 am

kalm wrote:
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The snark isn't really necessary, I honestly didn't know much about the area. Heck, I didn't really know much about the Upper Peninsula of Michigan before my wife decided it was a place she wanted to go and it was fantastic. Thanks for the photos and insight - I'm not a fly fisherman and never will be, but it looks like great hiking.


I apologize for the snark my friend. But if you and I don't display snark towards each other than what else do we got? ;)

I thought we had the 1950's, no? :lol:
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Postby GannonFan » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:15 am

kalm wrote:So is the Trump - Putin meeting in private and taking the notes away from the interpreter really that big of a deal? Haven't leaders been meeting "off-record" since Zog met with Thag to steal Zag's wheel idea?

It seems like more tribalism. If Obama had met with the Iranian leader and asked everyone to leave the room, I'm sure there would have been much hand wringing from the right as well.


Everything is tribalism these days.
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Postby kalm » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:21 am

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kalm wrote:
I apologize for the snark my friend. But if you and I don't display snark towards each other than what else do we got? ;)

I thought we had the 1950's, no? :lol:


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Postby GannonFan » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:31 am

kalm wrote:
GannonFan wrote:I thought we had the 1950's, no? :lol:


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Postby Skjellyfetti » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:15 am

kalm wrote:So is the Trump - Putin meeting in private and taking the notes away from the interpreter really that big of a deal? Haven't leaders been meeting "off-record" since Zog met with Thag to steal Zag's wheel idea?

It seems like more tribalism. If Obama had met with the Iranian leader and asked everyone to leave the room, I'm sure there would have been much hand wringing from the right as well.


I think it's pretty interesting within the context of when it occured. Namely, Trump was aware that NYT was about to break the Don Jr Trump Tower meeting story.

July 7 - NYT about to publish Don Jr Trump Tower story, calls WH for comment.

.......... - Trump has 2 1/2 hour conversation with Putin, Lavrov, and Tillerson early in the day.

.......... - Later that evening, he has a second meeting with Putin only attended by their interpreters. He didn't tell any advisors it occured. He confiscated the interpreters' notes afterward.

July 8 - On flight back to US, dictates response to NYT saying the Trump Tower meeting was about "adoptions."

........... - NYT publishes Don Jr story


July 18 - after the 2nd meeting with Putin comes out.... Trump says their conversation was about..... wait for it....... "adoption." :suspicious:



Lol. Pretty weird. And, not normal. Doesn't necessarily mean anything nefarious - but, I hope the interpreter gets a subpoena. Could still be protected by executive privilege, though...
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Postby houndawg » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:13 pm

HI54UNI wrote:Focus guys! This thread is about all the Russian collusion Jelly has been telling us about! :roll:


I'm thinking more along the money-laundering-for-the-Russian-Mob track still. His inability to shut his fvcking mouth may lay some Conspiracy and OJ charges on him too.


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Postby houndawg » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:20 pm

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There might be hope for America yet. :coffee:


I have to admit I'm taking a little joy in that as well...
"Oh that Trump is so entertaining.."
He trolls those Liberals and triggers all the snowflakes..."

Umm..Hmmm...

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Down at Mary Lou's Diner the words like "snowflake" and "libtard" used to be dime-a-dozen, now they're hard to find at any price. Same with the NRA stickers. :coffee:
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Postby Skjellyfetti » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:23 pm

houndawg wrote:
I'm thinking more along the money-laundering-for-the-Russian-Mob track still. His inability to shut his fvcking mouth may lay some Conspiracy and OJ charges on him too.


Oh frabjuous day!



I don't think there's too much distinction between those two tracks.
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Postby CID1990 » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:58 pm

kalm wrote:
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I have to ask, why Mongolia? I've never seen pictures or videos of there that don't just show empty desolation. It's like a colder, more inhospitable Afghanistan, but maybe with some cooler history.


Yeah...it looks just hideous...or as many fly fishing adventurists claim...quite a bit like Montana. :lol:

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Fly fishing for taimen is on my bucket list...

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For what it's worth, CID, I did a little recon on Kyrgystan fishing as well for ya and there is a sub-species of browns called amu darya trout which occupy the many rivers.

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Oh yes I am fully aware of Kyrgyzstan’s and Mongolia’s magnificence

And also their dearth of people - being able to camp 50-100 miles away from the next human being is in my top 5 list of reasons to want to go

As is the fly fishing


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Postby kalm » Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:19 pm

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1950's Ganny...

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I thought I was more like the Fonz.


My dad looked like a cross between Tom Bosley and Raymond Burr so I better take the Mr. C role. :mrgreen:
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Postby Chizzang » Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:52 pm

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But my bride will likely never be convinced


You can always get a new one...
I hear there's a whole batch of brides coming up from Honduras

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Postby Skjellyfetti » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:30 pm

Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort spoke to a federal grand jury last fall about his communications with Konstantin Kilimnik, including regarding an in-person meeting with the Russian associate and an email with him, special counsel Robert Mueller revealed Tuesday.

The 31-page filing gives an unprecedented window into Mueller's work with the grand jury, which is typically secret. It's also the first confirmation from prosecutors that Kilimnik is still central to the grand jury's efforts.
Based on recent filings from Mueller's team, Kilimnik appears to be at the heart of pieces of Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

The special counsel kept more details about the meeting secret in its Tuesday filing, such as what the in-person meeting was about and when it took place. An accompanying document with about 70 exhibits is also mostly redacted.

Mueller's team has been redacting information in its recent court filings to protect other individuals and to keep secret its ongoing investigations, of which there are multiple still in the works. But the special counsel has not redacted Kilimnik's name.

Mueller also revealed Tuesday that Manafort communicated with Kilimnik beginning on August 2, 2016.

Manafort left the Trump campaign later that month. Prosecutors previously accused him of sharing polling data related to the 2016 presidential campaign with Kilimnik, according to a Manafort filing last week.
Earlier Tuesday, Mueller's team and defense attorneys for former Trump campaign official Rick Gates said that once again the special counsel is not ready for Gates to be sentenced.

Gates was Trump's deputy campaign chairman at a time when the campaign had several suspicious communications with Russians or about Russia, including then-campaign chairman Manafort sharing polling data with Kilimnik, the Trump Tower meeting in June 2016 and the party's decision to change its platform regarding Russian intervention in Ukraine.

At the same time, the Russians' military intelligence hacked Democratic targets and facilitated the public release of stolen emails to damage Trump's opponents. Russians backed by a powerful oligarch also at that time allegedly ran a propaganda campaign on American social media sites to influence voters in a way that would help Trump.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/15/politics ... index.html
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Postby CID1990 » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:58 pm

Chizzang wrote:
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But my bride will likely never be convinced


You can always get a new one...
I hear there's a whole batch of brides coming up from Honduras

:nod:


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she also smelled like bananas and Suprema beer

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Postby SDHornet » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:27 pm

houndawg wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:Focus guys! This thread is about all the Russian collusion Jelly has been telling us about! :roll:


I'm thinking more along the money-laundering-for-the-Russian-Mob track still. His inability to shut his fvcking mouth may lay some Conspiracy and OJ charges on him too.


Oh frabjuous day!

Just curious what's taking so long to file charges if that is the case. :coffee:

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Postby UNI88 » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:36 pm

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1950's Ganny...

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I thought I was more like the Fonz.
Sorry Ganny but I picture you more like Mr. Cleaver (or Ned Flanders).

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Postby SeattleGriz » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:06 am

Bruce Ohr testimony leaked today. As with anything, leaks only give you the story they want, but Bruce Ohr doesn't look so good in this.

If you don't know who he is, Bruce is the guy that kept feeding the FBI information from Steele after Steele was considered no longer reliable by the FBI for shopping his story.

Bruce also has a wife, Nellie, who compiled information for Steele and his dossier.

Nellie was most likely one of the contractors performing illegal 702 searches as an employee of Fusion GPS.
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Postby kalm » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:17 am

UNI88 wrote:
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I thought I was more like the Fonz.
Sorry Ganny but I picture you more like Mr. Cleaver (or Ned Flanders).

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Postby Skjellyfetti » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:54 am

SDHornet wrote:
houndawg wrote:
I'm thinking more along the money-laundering-for-the-Russian-Mob track still. His inability to shut his fvcking mouth may lay some Conspiracy and OJ charges on him too.


Oh frabjuous day!

Just curious what's taking so long to file charges if that is the case. :coffee:


File charges against POTUS? It's DOJ policy that the President can't be indicted. I doubt Whitaker (or eventually Barr) are going to be the ones to change that.


But, in general... Federal investigations take a long time... Does the fact that McCabe hasn't been indicted mean that he is in the clear? :coffee:
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