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Grizalltheway wrote:
89Hen wrote: Improve their economy so their criminals will stay to rob their own people?
Yeah, there's NO connection between economic desperation and crime. :lol:
And there's NO hyperbole in your comment. :lol:
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89Hen wrote: Improve their economy so their criminals will stay to rob their own people?
Yeah, there's NO connection between economic desperation and crime. Image
There is no connection only excuses justifying bad behavior

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: Yeah, there's NO connection between economic desperation and crime. Image
There is no connection only excuses justifying bad behavior

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89Hen wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: Yeah, there's NO connection between economic desperation and crime. :lol:
And there's NO hyperbole in your comment. :lol:
That's why Alphie should love it. He loves Trump, a man who speaks in hyperbole 96.93% of the time. :mrgreen:
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Ibanez wrote:hyperbole 96.93% of the time. :mrgreen:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
89Hen wrote: Improve their economy so their criminals will stay to rob their own people?
Yeah, there's NO connection between economic desperation and crime. :lol:
Whatever we decide, just make sure the oligarchs remain charge and US companies can continue extracting wealth from their countries. It’s worked so far.

(But, but Venezuela!)
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kalm wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: Yeah, there's NO connection between economic desperation and crime. :lol:
Whatever we decide, just make sure the oligarchs remain charge and US companies can continue extracting wealth from their countries. It’s worked so far.

(But, but Venezuela!)
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Ibanez wrote:
89Hen wrote: Improve their economy so their criminals will stay to rob their own people?
:lol: Improve their economy so less of them travel here for economic opportunities, en masse. It's an idea.


Or nuke them. I dunno .
I don't necessarily disagree with that idea, but to what extent does their economy need to be improved so that they don't see a large enough difference in economic opportunity? Life is pretty sweet in America, political dramas aside. I would think a large swath of people, given the choice to live in most any Central American country (or Caribbean country) or live in the US, would pick the latter.

I think we need to greatly increase the legal means to get here, both in terms of quantity of people allowed and the simple, easy to know process to go about that, while really getting tough on the illegal ways to get here. I think Trump has only really done the latter (which quickly moved into a cruel exercise), and Congress has done pretty much nothing on either front for decades now.
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GannonFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote: :lol: Improve their economy so less of them travel here for economic opportunities, en masse. It's an idea.


Or nuke them. I dunno .
I don't necessarily disagree with that idea, but to what extent does their economy need to be improved so that they don't see a large enough difference in economic opportunity? Life is pretty sweet in America, political dramas aside. I would think a large swath of people, given the choice to live in most any Central American country (or Caribbean country) or live in the US, would pick the latter.

I think we need to greatly increase the legal means to get here, both in terms of quantity of people allowed and the simple, easy to know process to go about that, while really getting tough on the illegal ways to get here. I think Trump has only really done the latter (which quickly moved into a cruel exercise), and Congress has done pretty much nothing on either front for decades now.
FTR I'm not saying improved economic conditions down there is a panacea for the problem. Now that people like MS-13 have a foothold here it's going to take some time to get rid of them, even if we incompletely shut and militarized the border tomorrow. A good start would be more resources for law enforcement to deal with them.

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Grizalltheway wrote:
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I don't necessarily disagree with that idea, but to what extent does their economy need to be improved so that they don't see a large enough difference in economic opportunity? Life is pretty sweet in America, political dramas aside. I would think a large swath of people, given the choice to live in most any Central American country (or Caribbean country) or live in the US, would pick the latter.

I think we need to greatly increase the legal means to get here, both in terms of quantity of people allowed and the simple, easy to know process to go about that, while really getting tough on the illegal ways to get here. I think Trump has only really done the latter (which quickly moved into a cruel exercise), and Congress has done pretty much nothing on either front for decades now.
FTR I'm not saying improved economic conditions down there is a panacea for the problem. Now that people like MS-13 have a foothold here it's going to take some time to get rid of them, even if we incompletely shut and militarized the border tomorrow. A good start would be more resources for law enforcement to deal with them.
Clearly isolationism is the only solution.


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GannonFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote: :lol: Improve their economy so less of them travel here for economic opportunities, en masse. It's an idea.


Or nuke them. I dunno .
I don't necessarily disagree with that idea, but to what extent does their economy need to be improved so that they don't see a large enough difference in economic opportunity? Life is pretty sweet in America, political dramas aside. I would think a large swath of people, given the choice to live in most any Central American country (or Caribbean country) or live in the US, would pick the latter.
Yup, and it's not like we don't have crime and gang problems with US citizens. Improve Mexico or CentAm all you want, it won't be as good as the US, they will still come here and we will still have the same problems with our own people.
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Ibanez wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:There is no connection only excuses justifying bad behavior

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So the other 50% of the poor are just stupid for not commiting crimes?

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Image You're a peach. :thumb:
So the other 50% of the poor are just stupid for not commiting crimes?

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Ibanez wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: FTR I'm not saying improved economic conditions down there is a panacea for the problem. Now that people like MS-13 have a foothold here it's going to take some time to get rid of them, even if we incompletely shut and militarized the border tomorrow. A good start would be more resources for law enforcement to deal with them.
Clearly isolationism is the only solution.


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Ibanez wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:So the other 50% of the poor are just stupid for not commiting crimes?

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All the poor that just live.... Don't make excuses to commit crime. I was being generous with the 50% comment its probably like 80% that dont make excuses for commiting crime

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
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Clearly isolationism is the only solution.


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Homicides down 30% in Chicago this year. We can thank all the roving bands of MAGA hat wearers policing the city.
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SeattleGriz wrote:Homicides down 30% in Chicago this year. We can thank all the roving bands of MAGA hat wearers policing the city.
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93henfan wrote:So, Trump's prepared to shutter US auto plants?

Because closing the border with Mexico means 16% of parts would be unavailable and they'd have to shut down.
Yes but 6.93% of parts are for VWs and Miatas


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Trump: OK, Mexico, I’m giving you a one-year warning to control the drugs and the Northern Triangle hordes. Then I’ll REALLY close the border!
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Ivytalk wrote:Trump: OK, Mexico, I’m giving you a one-year warning to control the drugs and the Northern Triangle hordes. Then I’ll REALLY close the border!
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Ivytalk wrote:Trump: OK, Mexico, I’m giving you a one-year warning to control the drugs and the Northern Triangle hordes. Then I’ll REALLY close the border!
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Triggered by a MAGA hat.
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MAGAPHOBIA :lol:
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The border would not stay closed long, it would hurt us a but, but kill Mexico. Mexico would soon start sending these people back.


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BDKJMU wrote:Triggered by a MAGA hat.
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MAGAPHOBIA :lol:
This is a person who was raised in fear and ignorance

Very similar to many people who wear the hats


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