Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

[kalm]

Move along...nothing to see here.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... edit-promo

[SeattleGriz]

Trump gets to England on June 3rd, expect Pelosi to start her "impeachment inquiry" June 3rd.

Wait until he is out of town.

[Ivytalk]

Trump gets to England on June 3rd, expect Pelosi to start her "impeachment inquiry" June 3rd.

Wait until he is out of town.

QE2 is probably dreading that visit!

[SeattleGriz]

Sounds like somebody ELSE doesn't like the outcome either...

No kidding. Beat me too it.

I guess Ibanez missed the whole Stzrok/Page texting part in which it took the IG to point out their bias to Mueller.

Yes, Mueller was a straight arrow.

In this sense, the only thing that makes sense is Cid's prediction... Mueller picked them to keep clear of being labeled, or the other option was he was biased.

His whole game reeks of this either/ or.

He was a hack or he filled his team with hacks to look better.

[SeattleGriz]

Trump gets to England on June 3rd, expect Pelosi to start her "impeachment inquiry" June 3rd.

Wait until he is out of town.

QE2 is probably dreading that visit!

Well Meghan Markle is busy that week, so she won't be attending.

[UNI88]

Where's the proof that he hates Trump? Mueller is a life-long Republican, which is more than Trump can say. Did you even listen to what the man said? It's obvious you didn't, otherwise you would know why he didn't say Trump committed a crime Only a partisan hack doesn't understand what Mueller is saying here.

Futhermore, you missed the part where he was actually being fair towards Trump.

Spoiler: show

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You may not like the investigation into Russia interfering with our election, and I don't understand why would you not. Mueller truly is the "last Boy Scout in Washington." The man worked hard and made his determination. You just don't like the outcome.


Face it - Trump is a shady as **** person who has more than likely committed the crimes of trying to obstruct justice. You're too partisan and divided to put country ahead of party. If this were a Democrat, you all would be foaming at the mouth for Impeachment. You vote and support someone who is a petulant child and has more than likely committed crimes at POTUS.




I hate to sound like Trip and JSO. But you guys need to think critically and honestly assess the situation. You aren't.

But you do.
And talk about the pot calling the kettle black- It sounds like YOU are pissed off at the outcome.

He doesn't sound anything like JSO or Trip just because he's pointing out that Trump isn't a good person. IMO Trump is a sociopathic, narcissistic charlatan who was fractionally better than Hillary. I like some of the things he's done as POTUS but there are also things that I don't like.

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[mainejeff]

IMPEACH TRUMP.

[SDHornet]

IMPEACH TRUMP.

There is nothing stopping the House from doing so. What's taking Nancy so long?

[CID1990]

IMPEACH TRUMP.

So why isn’t it happening?


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[Ibanez]

So you have nothing intelligent to say...got it


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[Ibanez]

Just curious, Why do you think Trump is beyond reproach?


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I don’t, but this Russia crap and everything associated with it is just plain stupid.


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Russia crap? You mean Russia interjecting itself into our election is crap? I thought you loved America.


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[GannonFan]

I don’t, but this Russia crap and everything associated with it is just plain stupid.


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Russia crap? You mean Russia interjecting itself into our election is crap? I thought you loved America.


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Come on, he probably didn't mean that. Heck, Russia has been interfering in our elections in one way or the other since Lenin secured power in the 20's. This past election they were just better at it than normal. I think he's referring to the idea that Trump, personally, and the Russians teamed up to coordinate their efforts to win the election with some quid pro quo about what Trump would do for Russia as a thank you. You know, the stuff that Mueller said he found no criminal evidence of.

[Skjellyfetti]

the stuff that Mueller said he found no criminal evidence of.

Mueller didnt say that.

He said the evidence wasn't sufficient to establish a conspiracy.

[Ibanez]

I think that's pretty true. I think Trump is too **** stupid to realize what's going on and he feels that acknowledging Russian involvement de-legitimizes his election. That's understandable. He's not the stable genius he thinks he, at least his words and actions don't prove that.

But then he stepped on his own dick and it appears that he tried to obstruct justice.

That’s about the size of it

Basically, nobody who was invested in the Russia conspiracy narrative has any room to criticize Trump’s intelligence- because they are right there with him


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You're probably right. I was never sold on conspiracy. Based on Mueller's history, I had no reason to think of him as someone who wouldn't be fair and impartial.

Isn't there an IG report due soon?

[Ibanez]

Where's the proof that he hates Trump? Mueller is a life-long Republican, which is more than Trump can say. Did you even listen to what the man said? It's obvious you didn't, otherwise you would know why he didn't say Trump committed a crime Only a partisan hack doesn't understand what Mueller is saying here.

Futhermore, you missed the part where he was actually being fair towards Trump.

Spoiler: show

.

You may not like the investigation into Russia interfering with our election, and I don't understand why would you not. Mueller truly is the "last Boy Scout in Washington." The man worked hard and made his determination. You just don't like the outcome.


Face it - Trump is a shady as **** person who has more than likely committed the crimes of trying to obstruct justice. You're too partisan and divided to put country ahead of party. If this were a Democrat, you all would be foaming at the mouth for Impeachment. You vote and support someone who is a petulant child and has more than likely committed crimes at POTUS.




I hate to sound like Trip and JSO. But you guys need to think critically and honestly assess the situation. You aren't.

But you do.
And talk about the pot calling the kettle black- It sounds like YOU are pissed off at the outcome.

Go back up there and read where I said I was happy that Trump didn't conspire.

That sounds like I was happy with the outcome.

[Ibanez]

Anyone who agrees that a sitting President should be indicted should take a very close look at places like Nigeria - and then ask themselves if that’s truly a path they want to take

Try winning elections instead


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They can impeach then indict...

...of course if there was actually something worthwhile to impeach Trump on we would be well into the impeachment process by now...

...I wonder what is taking Pelosi so long to get this going.

That's a pretty stupid comment, coming from you. You know exactly why the Republican Senate will not convict Trump if the HoR impeached him. C'mon SD, you're better than that.

I don't think impeachment is likely, barring something so severe that even the Republicans finally decide that it's necessary. Which we both know won't happen. Better to vote him out of office. Beat him at the ballot box.

[Ibanez]

No kidding. Beat me too it.

I guess Ibanez missed the whole Stzrok/Page texting part in which it took the IG to point out their bias to Mueller.

Yes, Mueller was a straight arrow.

In this sense, the only thing that makes sense is Cid's prediction... Mueller picked them to keep clear of being labeled, or the other option was he was biased.

His whole game reeks of this either/ or.

He was a hack or he filled his team with hacks to look better.

Nope, I didn't miss that. I think it's painfully obvious that those two allowed their political biases to impact their professions. I can see h ow that can be difficult but I think when you're in a judicial or LE position, you have to try your hardest to remain impartial.

[Skjellyfetti]

That’s about the size of it

Basically, nobody who was invested in the Russia conspiracy narrative has any room to criticize Trump’s intelligence- because they are right there with him


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You're probably right. I was never sold on conspiracy. Based on Mueller's history, I had no reason to think of him as someone who wouldn't be fair and impartial.

Isn't there an IG report due soon?

McCabe's is done.

Summary released at the same time as Mueller's speech. Flew a bit under the radar...

https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2019/f190529.pdf

[AZGrizFan]

I guess Ibanez missed the whole Stzrok/Page texting part in which it took the IG to point out their bias to Mueller.

Yes, Mueller was a straight arrow.

In this sense, the only thing that makes sense is Cid's prediction... Mueller picked them to keep clear of being labeled, or the other option was he was biased.

His whole game reeks of this either/ or.

He was a hack or he filled his team with hacks to look better.

Nope, I didn't miss that. I think it's painfully obvious that those two allowed their political biases to impact their professions. I can see h ow that can be difficult but I think when you're in a judicial or LE position, you have to try your hardest to remain impartial.

Do their tweets/emails rise to the level of treason? A coup attempt?

[HI54UNI]

You're probably right. I was never sold on conspiracy. Based on Mueller's history, I had no reason to think of him as someone who wouldn't be fair and impartial.

Isn't there an IG report due soon?

McCabe's is done.

Summary released at the same time as Mueller's speech. Flew a bit under the radar...

https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2019/f190529.pdf

That isn't about McCabe. McCabe was a deputy director. It's more likely about Strzok.

[GannonFan]

the stuff that Mueller said he found no criminal evidence of.

Mueller didnt say that.

He said the evidence wasn't sufficient to establish a conspiracy.

You're saying the same thing I just said, you just cut off that phrase from the sentence that came before it. Taken together, as I wrote, means the same thing. And it means what we've been saying for 100+ pages in this thread, that you were wrong. And we as Americans should be happy that Mueller proved you wrong.

[Ibanez]

Nope, I didn't miss that. I think it's painfully obvious that those two allowed their political biases to impact their professions. I can see h ow that can be difficult but I think when you're in a judicial or LE position, you have to try your hardest to remain impartial.

Do their tweets/emails rise to the level of treason? A coup attempt?

Not that I remember. Just an apparent bias in their judgement.

[AZGrizFan]

Do their tweets/emails rise to the level of treason? A coup attempt?

Not that I remember. Just an apparent bias in their judgement.

You should reread them, then.

[css75]

Ibanez
,

Don’t you remember your question to me? You ask if I thought Trump beyond reproach, the answer was no, but TRUMP being accused of collusion and other Russian stuff was stupid. Any semi intelligent person could see that was bogus from the start.

Russian. Interference in our elections is totally wrong. But they got what they wanted by creating division. Thanks Libs.


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[UNI88]

Ibanez
,

Don’t you remember your question to me? You ask if I thought Trump beyond reproach, the answer was no, but TRUMP being accused of collusion and other Russian stuff was stupid. Any semi intelligent person could see that was bogus from the start.

Russian. Interference in our elections is totally wrong. But they got what they wanted by creating division. Thanks Libs.


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They didn't create the division. It's been there forever, or at least since Adams and Jefferson. They exploited it and fed it.

If the libs are responsible for today's division were conservatives responsible for it during Obama's presidency?

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