Yeah.....god forbid he be more concerned with reality than relic.Ivytalk wrote:JohnStOnge wrote:It may be a good system as it was conceived back then. But it is not a good system as what it has evolved into.
And there is a question as to whether it is a good system as it was conceived back round 1800 in today's world.
In other words, you’re one of those “living Constitution” motherfuckers. Some conservative/Libertarian you are.
You trophy generation motherfuckers....as soon as you lose something and don’t get your way, you want to change the rules.mainejeff wrote:Will Conks still be arguing for the Electoral College when the losing candidate wins the popular vote by 5 million?....10 million? Some system!
have a fucking juice box, junior.
Which generation was handing out the trophies?AZGrizFan wrote:You trophy generation motherfuckers....as soon as you lose something and don’t get your way, you want to change the rules.mainejeff wrote:Will Conks still be arguing for the Electoral College when the losing candidate wins the popular vote by 5 million?....10 million? Some system!
Electoral college
Supreme Court nominees
WAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
Which generation has the hurt feelers?kalm wrote:Which generation was handing out the trophies?AZGrizFan wrote:
You trophy generation motherfuckers....as soon as you lose something and don’t get your way, you want to change the rules.
Electoral college
Supreme Court nominees
WAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
Not in a Republic, JohnJohnStOnge wrote:I grasp the concept. I just don't agree with the idea of, in today's context, thinking of it in terms of States instead of as people. Right now we have a situation where the majority of the People can have the desires of a minority of the People foisted upon them under circumstances where the votes of people in small States count more than the votes of people in large States do.CID1990 wrote:
Direct elections would be decided by the largest population centers and their desires would be foisted on the rest of the States.
It is a very simple concept which you just don’t have the capacity to grasp, apparently.
And, again, there is that problem with the fact that a very substantial proportion of the population is disenfranchised by the state by state "winner take all" principle combined with the fact that many if not most States are not close. The thing where a person's Presidential vote is meaningless, for example, if they are a Republican living in California.
A very simple concept: Each person's vote should be equal in value and impact to every other person's vote.
I have never wondered about why heartland voters voted against their own interests. I do have beliefs about why people voted for Trump. For instance I have beliefs about why White Evangelical Christians did what they did. And I'm more concerned about an individual person who is a United States citizen living in Louisiana having their voice effectively silenced when to Presidential elections because they favor the Democrats than I am about Louisiana having its voice silenced. The Senate is there to equalize the voices of all States in a powerful sub-branch of government. Minority voice is fine. Minority rule is not. From January 2016 through January 2018 we had minority rule. Something is wrong with a system that allows that to happen.BTW- don’t you wonder how it is that heartland voters inexplicably voted against their own interests by voting for Trump? How is it that you can wonder about that, but not about your own arguments in favor of abrogating what little political say-so Louisiana has left?
Which generation is kicking the ladder down behind them?AZGrizFan wrote:Which generation has the hurt feelers?kalm wrote:
Which generation was handing out the trophies?
You Conk motherfuckers that keep changing the rules.....and moving the lines......and rigging the system.AZGrizFan wrote:You trophy generation motherfuckers....as soon as you lose something and don’t get your way, you want to change the rules.mainejeff wrote:Will Conks still be arguing for the Electoral College when the losing candidate wins the popular vote by 5 million?....10 million? Some system!
Electoral college
Supreme Court nominees
WAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
Somebody needs a hugmainejeff wrote:You Conk motherfuckers that keep changing the rules.....and moving the lines......and rigging the system.AZGrizFan wrote:
You trophy generation motherfuckers....as soon as you lose something and don’t get your way, you want to change the rules.
Electoral college
Supreme Court nominees
WAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
**** YOU AZGrizFan!
Which generation wants to “fix” the crack in the windshield with a sledgehammer?kalm wrote:Which generation is kicking the ladder down behind them?AZGrizFan wrote:
Which generation has the hurt feelers?
Pussymainejeff wrote:You Conk motherfuckers that keep changing the rules.....and moving the lines......and rigging the system.AZGrizFan wrote:
You trophy generation motherfuckers....as soon as you lose something and don’t get your way, you want to change the rules.
Electoral college
Supreme Court nominees
WAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
FUCK YOU AZGrizFan!
Which generation thinks crushing national debt, exorbitant medical costs, endless war, environmental damage are cracks in a windshield?AZGrizFan wrote:Which generation wants to “fix” the crack in the windshield with a sledgehammer?kalm wrote:
Which generation is kicking the ladder down behind them?
And socialism is the answer to cure all ills, amirite???kalm wrote:Which generation thinks crushing national debt, exorbitant medical costs, endless war, environmental damage are cracks in a windshield?AZGrizFan wrote:
Which generation wants to “fix” the crack in the windshield with a sledgehammer?
(BOOM! Kalm wins again!)
Of course not. No one thinks that.AZGrizFan wrote:And socialism is the answer to cure all ills, amirite???kalm wrote:
Which generation thinks crushing national debt, exorbitant medical costs, endless war, environmental damage are cracks in a windshield?
(BOOM! Kalm wins again!)
kalm wrote:Of course not. No one thinks that.AZGrizFan wrote:
And socialism is the answer to cure all ills, amirite???
I like competition.
NO ONE???? Yep. Name one.AZGrizFan wrote:kalm wrote:
Of course not. No one thinks that.
I like competition.
Did you really just type that with a straight face?
How about 50+ % of those under 30?kalm wrote:Yep. Name one.AZGrizFan wrote:
Did you really just type that with a straight face?
AZGrizFan wrote:How about 50+ % of those under 30?kalm wrote:
Yep. Name one.
Yes, there it is. It’s been proven in a number of polls, and stated by major political candidates pandering to this large group. They support socialism. You disagree with that assessment?kalm wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
How about 50+ % of those under 30?
And there it is. Youngin’s acting all liberal and expecting the same lifestyle of their parents generation and obviously without having to work hard for it.
God I’m glad I get to employ young people and get to see how that isn’t the case at all.
Supporting some socialized programs ain’t the same as believing it cures all the ills - your words.AZGrizFan wrote:Yes, there it is. It’s been proven in a number of polls, and stated by major political candidates pandering to this large group. They support socialism. You disagree with that assessment?kalm wrote:
And there it is. Youngin’s acting all liberal and expecting the same lifestyle of their parents generation and obviously without having to work hard for it.
God I’m glad I get to employ young people and get to see how that isn’t the case at all.
If that’s all you think they’re after you’re part of the problem.kalm wrote:Supporting some socialized programs ain’t the same as believing it cures all the ills - your words.AZGrizFan wrote:
Yes, there it is. It’s been proven in a number of polls, and stated by major political candidates pandering to this large group. They support socialism. You disagree with that assessment?
It would be the same as accusing all conservatives of supporting anarchy or feudalism.
You’re not an anarcho-feudalist, are you?
Wait...never mind...
Yes...and you’re after subjugating your minions to keep the walls of the keep all scrubbed up and bright and shiny.AZGrizFan wrote:If that’s all you think they’re after you’re part of the problem.kalm wrote:
Supporting some socialized programs ain’t the same as believing it cures all the ills - your words.
It would be the same as accusing all conservatives of supporting anarchy or feudalism.
You’re not an anarcho-feudalist, are you?
Wait...never mind...
I have no idea what you’re talking about.kalm wrote:Yes...and you’re after subjugating your minions to keep the walls of the keep all scrubbed up and bright and shiny.AZGrizFan wrote:
If that’s all you think they’re after you’re part of the problem.
You cute little anarcho-feudalist, you...
