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Re: Educationism

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CAA Flagship wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
:geek:

It's the GF
She got offered some fancy pants directors position - I can live anywhere as long as it has a major airport
and no black people
Any man that would move from their desired location, to a less desirable location, because of their female partner's job is............umm...............uhh..............hmmmm.............nevermind. :oops:

Dude, you have no idea...
a) I can live anywhere and have lived damned near everywhere in this country - and it's awesome
b) I get paid the same no matter where I live - Seattle is expensive - Minneapolis is not (I win)
c) Her package offer is what I make in 3 years and I'm over paid (generally speaking)

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I would even move to the dump that is St. Louis
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Chizzang wrote: It's got it's charm - America is awesome
Yes. It's become very GREAT in the past 30 months. 8-) 8-) 8-)
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Chizzang wrote:
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When has he ever? He's got his own, strange view of the world and lives in a bubble known as Seattle. It's a giant echo chamber...

:lol:

I might be moving to Minneapolis... :shock:
BTW: Home prices in Minn are so low me and the GF are stunned
Weren't you moving to Greenville, NC a few months ago? :lol:
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Ibanez wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

:lol:

I might be moving to Minneapolis... :shock:
BTW: Home prices in Minn are so low me and the GF are stunned
Weren't you moving to Greenville, NC a few months ago? :lol:
Not moving "buying" a place...
Her family wants a house closer to OBX as the family farm is west of Pittsburgh
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kalm wrote:I think Hanauer nails it here. Average Americans are more educated and more productive than ever but the wealth gap increases. Education isn't the problem, consolidated wealth and power is. Talk about wealth redistribution...

I'll be curious to see Ganny's and AZ's take on this.
For all the genuine flaws of the American education system, the nation still has many high-achieving public-school districts. Nearly all of them are united by a thriving community of economically secure middle-class families with sufficient political power to demand great schools, the time and resources to participate in those schools, and the tax money to amply fund them. In short, great public schools are the product of a thriving middle class, not the other way around. Pay people enough to afford dignified middle-class lives, and high-quality public schools will follow. But allow economic inequality to grow, and educational inequality will inevitably grow with it.
Little late to this discussion, but the scenario described above is a good description of where I live. Pretty good school district around the Microsoft and Boeing areas.
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Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
When has he ever? He's got his own, strange view of the world and lives in a bubble known as Seattle. It's a giant echo chamber...

:lol:

I might be moving to Minneapolis... :shock:
BTW: Home prices in Minn are so low me and the GF are stunned
Careful, you might be considered rich there.
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Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Ahhh...Minneapolis. The most segregated city in America. :coffee: :coffee:

Interesting choice for someone so enlightened.
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She got offered some fancy pants directors position - I can live anywhere as long as it has a major airport
and no black people
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89Hen wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

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I might be moving to Minneapolis... :shock:
BTW: Home prices in Minn are so low me and the GF are stunned
Careful, you might be considered rich there.
Ha! My cousin, who moved to Bellingham from Minny St Paul, keeps saying how expensive homes in Seattle are.

She can't believe the size of our yard/home. I told her if I hadn't purchased 14 years ago, I couldn't afford it today.
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Ivytalk wrote:I read the whole thing. Hanauer’s work is all of a piece with Warren Buffett and a few other bleeding heart billionaires: I’m richer than God, so please tax me more so I can help the little people and feel better about myself. Well, I had a successful career, and I have a nice nest egg, but I’m damned if I want some idiot like Liz Warren imposing a “wealth tax” to “level the playing field” at my (and my heirs’) expense. We give a shytload more money to charity than the Obamas and the Bidens combined. And that’s all I’m going to say about that.
Oh please. :roll:
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SeattleGriz wrote:
89Hen wrote: Careful, you might be considered rich there.
Ha! My cousin, who moved to Bellingham from Minny St Paul, keeps saying how expensive homes in Seattle are.

She can't believe the size of our yard/home. I told her if I hadn't purchased 14 years ago, I couldn't afford it today.
I used to get a ton of pussy in the Skagit Valley area..Mt.Vernon, LaConner.....goddamn life was good back then...
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houndawg wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Ha! My cousin, who moved to Bellingham from Minny St Paul, keeps saying how expensive homes in Seattle are.

She can't believe the size of our yard/home. I told her if I hadn't purchased 14 years ago, I couldn't afford it today.
I used to get a ton of pussy in the Skagit Valley area..Mt.Vernon, LaConner.....goddamn life was good back then...
My team won the AA State Golf Championship at Skagit Valley Country Club.
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kalm wrote:
houndawg wrote:
I used to get a ton of pussy in the Skagit Valley area..Mt.Vernon, LaConner.....goddamn life was good back then...
My team won the AA State Golf Championship at Skagit Valley Country Club.
I don't recall visiting the SVCC but the 1890's Club in LaConner was live as hell
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Chizzang wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Any man that would move from their desired location, to a less desirable location, because of their female partner's job is............umm...............uhh..............hmmmm.............nevermind. :oops:

America is awesome
Agreed

Take it from someone who has spent the last ten years everywhere BUT America

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Chizzang wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Weren't you moving to Greenville, NC a few months ago? :lol:
Not moving "buying" a place...
Her family wants a house closer to OBX as the family farm is west of Pittsburgh
Check out the Beaufort/Morehead City area also


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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Not moving "buying" a place...
Her family wants a house closer to OBX as the family farm is west of Pittsburgh
Check out the Beaufort/Morehead City area also
It's gotta be kinda inexpensive... Morehead ain't cheap
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Another example of how wages have diminished compared to the American Dream...
In his magisterial 2005 history, A Nation of Realtors, Jeffrey Hornstein laid out the country-shaping effect of 20th-century housing policy. In the decades following the Great Depression, the federal government—as well as states and cities—subsidized the creation and consumption of single-family homes. The American dream’s most important archetype became buying a home. “Americans,” Hornstein wrote, “particularly white Americans, came to think of themselves as inhabiting a classless society, composed of one big ‘middle class,’ its membership defined to a large degree by actual or expectant homeownership.”


Recently, however, we’ve lost the plot on the classic life arc of yesteryear. Places where real estate is cheap don’t have many good jobs. Places with lots of jobs, primarily coastal cities, have seen their real-estate markets go absolutely haywire. The most recent evidence of this remarkable change comes in a new report by the real-estate firm Unison. The company, which provides financing to homebuyers by “co-investing” with them, calculated how long it would take to save up a 20 percent down payment on the median home in a given city by squirreling away 5 percent of the city’s gross median income per year.

Nationally, the gap between income and home value has been rising. Using Unison’s methodology, it took nine years to save up a down payment in 1975. Now it takes 14.

But the aggregate numbers make the decrease in access to the real-estate market seem gradual, albeit troubling, and underplay the spikiness of the country. In Los Angeles, it would take 43 years to save up for a down payment. In San Francisco, 40. In San Jose and San Diego, 31. In Seattle and Portland, 27 and 23, respectively. In the east, New York and Miami topped the list, requiring 36 years to save up that down payment. Only Detroit, at seven years, was under the national average from 1975

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HI54UNI wrote:
UNI88 wrote:I don't know. I don't think they can get enough revenue from the 1%ers to pay for everything that Bernie and AOC want to do. Those two and others dream about a return to pre-Reagan tax rates (top marginal rate of 70%) to fund their socialist utopia and seaside dachas.


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I've said this before but the Forbes list of 400 richest Americans has a combined worth at $2.9 trillion as of last fall. The deficit this year is something like $800 billion. So at current spending levels if we take everything the 400 richest have we can balance the budget for about 3.6 years. Then all that money is gone and we have to start coming at the next 400 richest which won't be anything like the first 400. So for anyone to say that aren't coming after the middle class is naive. And this doesn't even count the trillions of new spending being suggested by the all the idiots running for President.
Gone or moved to a place that is not taxable. Buffet and his ilk like to take about more taxes but they are the first to move money out of the areas that will be taxed the highest. Nobody likes to give away what they earned, especially those with the most to loose.
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