So the road games would be:UNI88 wrote: ....as a Chiefs fan, I would rather play the Dolphins, Jets and Bills twice each than the Chargers, Broncos and Raiders.
Hot, Cold, NY Fans
vs.
Soccer stadium, High altitude, Oakland fans.
Hmmmmm.
So the road games would be:UNI88 wrote: ....as a Chiefs fan, I would rather play the Dolphins, Jets and Bills twice each than the Chargers, Broncos and Raiders.
From a quality of opponent perspective.CAA Flagship wrote:So the road games would be:UNI88 wrote: ....as a Chiefs fan, I would rather play the Dolphins, Jets and Bills twice each than the Chargers, Broncos and Raiders.
Hot, Cold, NY Fans
vs.
Soccer stadium, High altitude, Oakland fans.
Hmmmmm.
Aren't those the 2000-2009 rankings?Chizzang wrote:obviously the Chiefs Chargers Broncos and Raiders
are a better group than Patriots Bills Dolphins Jets
even though the Patriots just beat the Chargers and Chiefs
However 5 years ago that wasn't the case at all...
The Raiders were the worst team in the NFL and that division performed poorly against the AFC East
We're talking about a cyclical league
where teams power rankings shift wildly from season to season
Ranking the NFL's 32 teams during the past decade is extremely telling...
The AFC west has nobody in the top 1/3 in performance with the Chargers coming in at 11th
https://www.nbcsports.com/ranking-nfls- ... ing-decade
The best team in the league right now - The Kansas City Chiefs
have been the 24th best team in the league over the past 10 years
24. Kansas City Chiefs
Record: 69-87
Playoff appearances: 2
Playoff record: 0-2
Losing seasons: 6
I thought I pulled up 2009-201989Hen wrote:Aren't those the 2000-2009 rankings?Chizzang wrote:obviously the Chiefs Chargers Broncos and Raiders
are a better group than Patriots Bills Dolphins Jets
even though the Patriots just beat the Chargers and Chiefs
However 5 years ago that wasn't the case at all...
The Raiders were the worst team in the NFL and that division performed poorly against the AFC East
We're talking about a cyclical league
where teams power rankings shift wildly from season to season
Ranking the NFL's 32 teams during the past decade is extremely telling...
The AFC west has nobody in the top 1/3 in performance with the Chargers coming in at 11th
https://www.nbcsports.com/ranking-nfls- ... ing-decade
The best team in the league right now - The Kansas City Chiefs
have been the 24th best team in the league over the past 10 years
24. Kansas City Chiefs
Record: 69-87
Playoff appearances: 2
Playoff record: 0-2
Losing seasons: 6
I'm not following that closely, but weren't you basically arguing that the AFC West were worse than the AFC East?Chizzang wrote:I thought I pulled up 2009-201989Hen wrote: Aren't those the 2000-2009 rankings?
I can pull up whichever ones you want
the point is the same... the league shifts wildly
https://www.patriots.com/news/nfl-decad ... -2010-2018
Works the same89Hen wrote:I'm not following that closely, but weren't you basically arguing that the AFC West were worse than the AFC East?Chizzang wrote:
I thought I pulled up 2009-2019
I can pull up whichever ones you want
the point is the same... the league shifts wildly
https://www.patriots.com/news/nfl-decad ... -2010-2018
7. Kansas City
8. Denver
23. Miami
25. NY Jets
26. Buffalo
You're like a one-trick pony - unless you're talking about Comcast you're like a less weird, but still mostly wrong JSO type poster.Chizzang wrote:Works the same89Hen wrote: I'm not following that closely, but weren't you basically arguing that the AFC West were worse than the AFC East?
7. Kansas City
8. Denver
23. Miami
25. NY Jets
26. Buffalo
in the period from 2000 -2009 the AFC West was worse than the AFC East
and the Patriots won 3 Superbowls in that period also
The strange argument put forth is the worse your division
somehow the more likely you are to win a Superbowl because of how bad your division is
or something like that... Either way the numbers don't pan out
My point through this is the Patriots for 20 years straight
play a little better than .750 against all opponents
NFC / AFC / Any Division / Playoffs etc.
Their argument is the patriots win because they are in a shitty division
yet the winningest division in the NFL in those past 20 years is the ACF East
Just factual data...GannonFan wrote:You're like a one-trick pony - unless you're talking about Comcast you're like a less weird, but still mostly wrong JSO type poster.Chizzang wrote:
Works the same
in the period from 2000 -2009 the AFC West was worse than the AFC East
and the Patriots won 3 Superbowls in that period also
The strange argument put forth is the worse your division
somehow the more likely you are to win a Superbowl because of how bad your division is
or something like that... Either way the numbers don't pan out
My point through this is the Patriots for 20 years straight
play a little better than .750 against all opponents
NFC / AFC / Any Division / Playoffs etc.
Their argument is the patriots win because they are in a shitty division
yet the winningest division in the NFL in those past 20 years is the ACF East
JSO's data is factual too.Chizzang wrote:Just factual data...GannonFan wrote:
You're like a one-trick pony - unless you're talking about Comcast you're like a less weird, but still mostly wrong JSO type poster.
I look forward ANY data you can provide that substantiates your claims
Indeed.UNI88 wrote:JSO's data is factual too.Chizzang wrote:
Just factual data...
I look forward ANY data you can provide that substantiates your claims
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What's the Vikings 20 year excuse ?Gil Dobie wrote:Very reason the Packers have won so much, bad division. Vikings thought they were so great when Rodgers got hurt. They just had an easy schedule, and were not competitive enough to get to the Super Bowl. Playing a tougher schedule last season proved that point.
Tough conference is why NDSU does so bad in the FCS playoffs. NFL must be the exception, or KC wasn't good enough last year.Chizzang wrote:What's the Vikings 20 year excuse ?Gil Dobie wrote:Very reason the Packers have won so much, bad division. Vikings thought they were so great when Rodgers got hurt. They just had an easy schedule, and were not competitive enough to get to the Super Bowl. Playing a tougher schedule last season proved that point.
Do they have 20 unique different excuses
each that explain their success or lack of success each season over 20 years ..?
The logic here:
The Chiefs DID NOT win the Superbowl last year because they were in the best division in the NFL
You'll want to write that down - it's CS.com football facts
Note:Gil Dobie wrote:Tough conference is why NDSU does so bad in the FCS playoffs. NFL must be the exception, or KC wasn't good enough last year.Chizzang wrote:
What's the Vikings 20 year excuse ?
Do they have 20 unique different excuses
each that explain their success or lack of success each season over 20 years ..?
The logic here:
The Chiefs DID NOT win the Superbowl last year because they were in the best division in the NFL
You'll want to write that down - it's CS.com football facts
Not sure I understand...css75 wrote:The AFC West is the only division with all 4 teams above .500 all time.
KC wasn't good enough last year.Gil Dobie wrote:Tough conference is why NDSU does so bad in the FCS playoffs. NFL must be the exception, or KC wasn't good enough last year.Chizzang wrote:
What's the Vikings 20 year excuse ?
Do they have 20 unique different excuses
each that explain their success or lack of success each season over 20 years ..?
The logic here:
The Chiefs DID NOT win the Superbowl last year because they were in the best division in the NFL
You'll want to write that down - it's CS.com football facts
I'm honestly looking for any piece of dataUNI88 wrote:KC wasn't good enough last year.Gil Dobie wrote:
Tough conference is why NDSU does so bad in the FCS playoffs. NFL must be the exception, or KC wasn't good enough last year.
The Patriots playing in a weaker division doesn't lessen what they've accomplished.
Chizzy defending them like he accuses CID of defending Trump is ironic.
The Patriots don't win Superbowls because of the AFC East. If the AFC East is weaker as proposed than (that's for you CID) they do have a weaker schedule which theoretically gives them more wins which increases their chances of winning in the playoffs and making the Superbowl. They still have to win it though.Chizzang wrote:I'm honestly looking for any piece of dataUNI88 wrote:
KC wasn't good enough last year.
The Patriots playing in a weaker division doesn't lessen what they've accomplished.
Chizzy defending them like he accuses CID of defending Trump is ironic.
that supports the claim that the Patriots win superbowls because of the AFC East
anything...
over the last 20 years that corroborates that theory
Well if the regular season schedule is easier, your record will be better. That gives you home field advantages and easier playoff opponents.Chizzang wrote:I'm honestly looking for any piece of dataUNI88 wrote:
KC wasn't good enough last year.
The Patriots playing in a weaker division doesn't lessen what they've accomplished.
Chizzy defending them like he accuses CID of defending Trump is ironic.
that supports the claim that the Patriots win superbowls because of the AFC East
anything...
over the last 20 years that corroborates that theory
Precisely. I won this argument pages ago, but some people like to hear themselves talk. I think it makes them feel smart.CAA Flagship wrote: Well if the regular season schedule is easier, your record will be better. That gives you home field advantages and easier playoff opponents.
Since the inception of the AFL IN 1960.Chizzang wrote:Not sure I understand...css75 wrote:The AFC West is the only division with all 4 teams above .500 all time.
the AFC west is above .500 since realignment?
Totally - I completely agree with that ^ above93henfan wrote:Precisely. I won this argument pages ago, but some people like to hear themselves talk. I think it makes them feel smart.CAA Flagship wrote: Well if the regular season schedule is easier, your record will be better. That gives you home field advantages and easier playoff opponents.