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Oh. So does that go for Trump? He spouts hateful **** on the regular. I’m sure there’s no hypocrisy there


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No he doesn’t..You’re starting to sound like you have TDS.
Are you serious, Clark? You can't be serious.


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BDKJMU wrote: No he doesn’t..You’re starting to sound like you have TDS.
Are you serious, Clark? You can't be serious.


Surely you aren't serious.


Tell me you aren't serious.
List here what he has said "on the regular" that's hateful.. :coffee:
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BDKJMU wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Are you serious, Clark? You can't be serious.


Surely you aren't serious.


Tell me you aren't serious.
List here what he has said "on the regular" that's hateful.. :coffee:
Why on the regular? He’s mocked disabled people. He’s mocked POWs. He’s attacked a dead man. Anyone who disagrees with him is “crazy”, a”loser” or something else. He’s told Congresswomem from the US to go back to where they came from, a common saying told to blacks.



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Ibanez wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: List here what he has said "on the regular" that's hateful.. :coffee:
Why on the regular? He’s mocked disabled people. He’s mocked POWs. He’s attacked a dead man. Anyone who disagrees with him is “crazy”, a”loser” or something else. He’s told Congresswomem from the US to go back to where they came from, a common saying told to blacks.



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I think you are finally ready to go full TDS, he says things in the open, others like Hillary and Obama say far worse things in private.


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css75 wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Why on the regular? He’s mocked disabled people. He’s mocked POWs. He’s attacked a dead man. Anyone who disagrees with him is “crazy”, a”loser” or something else. He’s told Congresswomem from the US to go back to where they came from, a common saying told to blacks.



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I think you are finally ready to go full TDS, he says things in the open, others like Hillary and Obama say far worse things in private.


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So that’s acceptable?


And TDS? Please. I pretty much loathe 99.99% of our ejected leaders.


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css75 wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Why on the regular? He’s mocked disabled people. He’s mocked POWs. He’s attacked a dead man. Anyone who disagrees with him is “crazy”, a”loser” or something else. He’s told Congresswomem from the US to go back to where they came from, a common saying told to blacks.



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I think you are finally ready to go full TDS, he says things in the open, others like Hillary and Obama say far worse things in private.


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I'm with Ibanez on this. I've defended Trump on many things but I'm not going to pretend that he doesn't make incendiary comments and intentionally rile people up. He's done some good things and I prefer his presidency to what I think Hillary's would have been but I still think he's a crass buffoon. He stokes racial tensions but I think his bigotry is about his own conceit.

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Ibanez wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: List here what he has said "on the regular" that's hateful.. :coffee:
Why on the regular? He’s mocked disabled people. He’s mocked POWs. He’s attacked a dead man. Anyone who disagrees with him is “crazy”, a”loser” or something else. He’s told Congresswomem from the US to go back to where they came from, a common saying told to blacks.

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-He mocked a reporter who was harrassing him.
-He mocked a POW John McCain.
-He mocked a dead man John McCain
-After the lying, anti American quartet of hate attacked him, the men & women of ICE/CBP, and lied about what’s going on at the border.
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Ibanez wrote:
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I think you are finally ready to go full TDS, he says things in the open, others like Hillary and Obama say far worse things in private.


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So that’s acceptable?


And TDS? Please. I pretty much loathe 99.99% of our ejected leaders.


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css75 wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Why on the regular? He’s mocked disabled people. He’s mocked POWs. He’s attacked a dead man. Anyone who disagrees with him is “crazy”, a”loser” or something else. He’s told Congresswomem from the US to go back to where they came from, a common saying told to blacks.



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I think you are finally ready to go full TDS, he says things in the open, others like Hillary and Obama say far worse things in private.


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looks like we're dealing with tertiary AOCD here..
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Ivytalk wrote:
Ibanez wrote: So that’s acceptable?


And TDS? Please. I pretty much loathe 99.99% of our ejected leaders.


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:lol: Feudian slip?
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houndawg wrote:
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I think you are finally ready to go full TDS, he says things in the open, others like Hillary and Obama say far worse things in private.


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looks like we're dealing with tertiary AOCD here..
You think? People are so triggered when a politician they like gets criticized. They can't handle it. Its on both sides. People just don't know what to do when someone has the gall to have an opposing view. They must have some form of a made up disease. :roll: OH THE HUMANITY! SOMEONE HAS A DIFFERENT POV ON AN ISSUE/INDIVIDUAL! OH MA LAWD! I CAN'T HANDLE SOMEONE THINKING SOMETHING CONTRARY!


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Ivytalk wrote: *elected
:lol: Feudian slip?
*Freudian 8-)

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houndawg wrote:
css75 wrote:
I think you are finally ready to go full TDS, he says things in the open, others like Hillary and Obama say far worse things in private.


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looks like we're dealing with tertiary AOCD here..
Highly doubt that, she is irrelevant except for illustrating how stupid she is.Image


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houndawg wrote:

looks like we're dealing with tertiary AOCD here..
Highly doubt that, she is irrelevant except for illustrating how stupid she is.Image


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That's enlightening considering she's a Donk version of Trump.

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css75 wrote:
houndawg wrote:

looks like we're dealing with tertiary AOCD here..
Highly doubt that, she is irrelevant except for illustrating how stupid she is.Image


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Ibanez wrote: :lol: Feudian slip?
*Freudian 8-)

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Merriam Webster definition of a nationalist:
: an advocate of or believer in nationalism: loyalty and devotion to a nation
especially : a sense of national consciousness (see CONSCIOUSNESS sense 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups
2 : a member of a political party or group advocating national independence or strong national government
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nationalist

No one should have to apologize for being a nationalist.
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BDKJMU wrote:Merriam Webster definition of a nationalist:
: an advocate of or believer in nationalism: loyalty and devotion to a nation
especially : a sense of national consciousness (see CONSCIOUSNESS sense 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups
2 : a member of a political party or group advocating national independence or strong national government
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nationalist

No one should have to apologize for being a nationalist.
You understand the difference between "A Nationalist" and a "White Nationalist" ..?
These things are different

:coffee:

One is a form a Patriotism
the other is white supremacy

I applaud the guy for being honest
Not sure why he'd withdraw from running he'd get a bunch of votes
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BDKJMU wrote:Merriam Webster definition of a nationalist:
: an advocate of or believer in nationalism: loyalty and devotion to a nation
especially : a sense of national consciousness (see CONSCIOUSNESS sense 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups
2 : a member of a political party or group advocating national independence or strong national government
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nationalist

No one should have to apologize for being a nationalist.
I think you're conflating Nationalism with Patriotism. Nationalism is like Jingoism, without the military aspect.

Nationalism is about cultural superiority. That is what "exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations" means. In today's parlance, it's come to describe people or groups that think their culture is superior based on race or creed. Like a white nationalist or black nationalist. Groups like The League of the South, the KKK, Black Panthers, Viet Cong, Workers Party of Korea, Ba'ath Party, the IRA, the Nazi party...in fact if you take a look you'll find that many Nationalist groups are often time socialist or communists.

Having pride in your country is Patriotism. :thumb: For example, I'm proud to be an American. I love this country, I think for all its warts and problems we're a great country. But I don't think we're the best thing since sliced bread and every country NOT named the USA can take a backseat. I don't think the rest of the world should tremble before us.

Thinking your country is morally and culturally superior is completely different than having pride.
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Chizzang wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Merriam Webster definition of a nationalist:
: an advocate of or believer in nationalism: loyalty and devotion to a nation
especially : a sense of national consciousness (see CONSCIOUSNESS sense 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups
2 : a member of a political party or group advocating national independence or strong national government
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nationalist

No one should have to apologize for being a nationalist.
You understand the difference between "A Nationalist" and a "White Nationalist" ..?
These things are different

:coffee:

One is a form a Patriotism
the other is white supremacy

I applaud the guy for being honest
Not sure why he'd withdraw from running he'd get a bunch of votes
Even then...look at many nationalist groups or movements around the world. You'll find a lot of democratic parties, socialists, communists and even some MUSLIMS! EEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :? :?
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Chizzang wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Merriam Webster definition of a nationalist:
: an advocate of or believer in nationalism: loyalty and devotion to a nation
especially : a sense of national consciousness (see CONSCIOUSNESS sense 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups
2 : a member of a political party or group advocating national independence or strong national government
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nationalist

No one should have to apologize for being a nationalist.
You understand the difference between "A Nationalist" and a "White Nationalist" ..?
These things are different

:coffee:

One is a form a Patriotism
the other is white supremacy

I applaud the guy for being honest
Not sure why he'd withdraw from running he'd get a bunch of votes
If you’re white..
And if you’re a nationalist.
Then you’re a nationalist white guy but not necessarily a white nationalist. :suspicious:
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Ibanez wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Merriam Webster definition of a nationalist:
: an advocate of or believer in nationalism: loyalty and devotion to a nation
especially : a sense of national consciousness (see CONSCIOUSNESS sense 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups
2 : a member of a political party or group advocating national independence or strong national government
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nationalist

No one should have to apologize for being a nationalist.
I think you're conflating Nationalism with Patriotism. Nationalism is like Jingoism, without the military aspect.

Nationalism is about cultural superiority. That is what "exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations" means. In today's parlance, it's come to describe people or groups that think their culture is superior based on race or creed. Like a white nationalist or black nationalist. Groups like The League of the South, the KKK, Black Panthers, Viet Cong, Workers Party of Korea, Ba'ath Party, the IRA, the Nazi party...in fact if you take a look you'll find that many Nationalist groups are often time socialist or communists.

Having pride in your country is Patriotism. :thumb: For example, I'm proud to be an American. I love this country, I think for all its warts and problems we're a great country. But I don't think we're the best thing since sliced bread and every country NOT named the USA can take a backseat. I don't think the rest of the world should tremble before us.

Thinking your country is morally and culturally superior is completely different than having pride.
If you believe in ‘America First’ then that would make you a nationalist according to the various concise dictionary meanings. Sign me up.
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BDKJMU wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
You understand the difference between "A Nationalist" and a "White Nationalist" ..?
These things are different

:coffee:

One is a form a Patriotism
the other is white supremacy

I applaud the guy for being honest
Not sure why he'd withdraw from running he'd get a bunch of votes
If you’re white..
And if you’re a nationalist.
Then you’re a nationalist white guy but not necessarily a white nationalist. :suspicious:
You're not necessarily a White Nationalist until you identify yourself as one...
by calling yourself a White Nationalist

You're right - It's not that confusing

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He called himself a Proud White Nationalist... that about sums it up I think
Again: Still not sure why he dropped out
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