Well I do need to be carefulUNI88 wrote:Isn't the juxtaposition ironic?Chizzang wrote:
Ah...
"but Hilary"
I'm so glad we're still there two and a half years later
Last week or so I was rambling on and on about the Iraq war and "But Bush"
Well I do need to be carefulUNI88 wrote:Isn't the juxtaposition ironic?Chizzang wrote:
Ah...
"but Hilary"
I'm so glad we're still there two and a half years later
The "but Hillary" thing is entirely incorrect. Hillary gave money to other nations to get dirt on Trump (and maybe even Biden if the rumors are true). Trump just asked for it with the power of the office behind him. Both wrong and illegal, but different.Chizzang wrote:Ah...89Hen wrote: Easily accomplished, just give it to Hilary.
"but Hilary"
I'm so glad we're still there two and a half years later
You're really slipping lately. Have you seen a doctor? I'm worried. Not joking.Chizzang wrote:Ah...89Hen wrote: Easily accomplished, just give it to Hilary.
"but Hilary"
I'm so glad we're still there two and a half years later
89Hen wrote:You're really slipping lately. Have you seen a doctor? I'm worried. Not joking.Chizzang wrote:
Ah...
"but Hilary"
I'm so glad we're still there two and a half years later
What office does Hillary hold presently..?GannonFan wrote:The "but Hillary" thing is entirely incorrect. Hillary gave money to other nations to get dirt on Trump (and maybe even Biden if the rumors are true). Trump just asked for it with the power of the office behind him. Both wrong and illegal, but different.Chizzang wrote:
Ah...
"but Hilary"
I'm so glad we're still there two and a half years later
Her office occupies a corner window in many heads.Chizzang wrote:What office does Hillary hold presently..?GannonFan wrote:
The "but Hillary" thing is entirely incorrect. Hillary gave money to other nations to get dirt on Trump (and maybe even Biden if the rumors are true). Trump just asked for it with the power of the office behind him. Both wrong and illegal, but different.
Or since 2013..?
She's the president of the left.Chizzang wrote:What office does Hillary hold presently..?GannonFan wrote:
The "but Hillary" thing is entirely incorrect. Hillary gave money to other nations to get dirt on Trump (and maybe even Biden if the rumors are true). Trump just asked for it with the power of the office behind him. Both wrong and illegal, but different.
Or since 2013..?
He'll release it when Hillary releases those 33,000 emails she destroyed. Deal?∞∞∞ wrote:It's a memo; not a transcript. The transcript hasn't been released, and is likely on lockdown, been moved to a different server, or completely destroyed despite all the promises to release it.SeattleGriz wrote:
Adam Schiff making up a conversation when he has the transcript! Head of the committee no less.
Fail.
Of course the whistle blower had concerns about that too:
Wonder what Trump and company are covering up...
Mmmm... I seeAZGrizFan wrote:She's the president of the left.Chizzang wrote:
What office does Hillary hold presently..?
Or since 2013..?
Good one, klammy.kalm wrote:Her office occupies a corner window in many heads.Chizzang wrote:
What office does Hillary hold presently..?
Or since 2013..?
I've got news for you AZAZGrizFan wrote:He'll release it when Hillary releases those 33,000 emails she destroyed. Deal?∞∞∞ wrote: It's a memo; not a transcript. The transcript hasn't been released, and is likely on lockdown, been moved to a different server, or completely destroyed despite all the promises to release it.
Of course the whistle blower had concerns about that too:
Wonder what Trump and company are covering up...
Yeah after 2017 I bet every conversation with a foreign leader was moved to a secure server with all the liberal leakers in the WH..SeattleGriz wrote:I get that you are saying the transcript is not the entire conversation, but it is still a transcript.∞∞∞ wrote: It's a memo; not a transcript. The transcript hasn't been released, and is likely on lockdown, been moved to a different server, or completely destroyed despite all the promises to release it.
Of course the whistle blower had concerns about that too:
Wonder what Trump and company are covering up...
And why would they move it to a secure server? How many private conversations of Obama's were released? I can now think of three phone calls of Trump with other leaders now having been released.
Those releasing this information I hope are caught and prosecuted. It is not their job to dictate policy. We already have people who's job it is to listen in on the President's calls.
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions...But you have to go home now. We have to have peace…
..I know how you feel, but go home, and go home in peace.
Skjellyfetti wrote:Great. I can't wait for the part of the story where the guy gets trashed by Red Hats.
Cynically, that might happen and probably needs to. But are you ok with President Warren privately negotiating deals on your behalf?BDKJMU wrote:Yeah after 2017 I bet every conversation with a foreign leader was moved to a secure server with all the liberal leakers in the WH..SeattleGriz wrote:
I get that you are saying the transcript is not the entire conversation, but it is still a transcript.
And why would they move it to a secure server? How many private conversations of Obama's were released? I can now think of three phone calls of Trump with other leaders now having been released.
Those releasing this information I hope are caught and prosecuted. It is not their job to dictate policy. We already have people who's job it is to listen in on the President's calls.
Trumps only mistake was having a non private conversation with president of Ukraine.
Should a POTUS be able to have a private conversation with a foreign leader? I would lean towards yes.kalm wrote:Cynically, that might happen and probably needs to. But are you ok with President Warren privately negotiating deals on your behalf?BDKJMU wrote: Yeah after 2017 I bet every conversation with a foreign leader was moved to a secure server with all the liberal leakers in the WH..
Trumps only mistake was having a non private conversation with president of Ukraine.
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions...But you have to go home now. We have to have peace…
..I know how you feel, but go home, and go home in peace.
If I expect it for Trump, I have to expect it for her. I will also assume this is where the "deep state" gets to bring the car back on the road if it's in the ditch.kalm wrote:Cynically, that might happen and probably needs to. But are you ok with President Warren privately negotiating deals on your behalf?BDKJMU wrote: Yeah after 2017 I bet every conversation with a foreign leader was moved to a secure server with all the liberal leakers in the WH..
Trumps only mistake was having a non private conversation with president of Ukraine.
Hillary did not give money to other nations to get dirt on Trump or anybody else. Assuming it's what you are talking about, the Democrat Party paying a private entity (Fusion GPS) for opposition research is not paying a foreign country for opposition research. Fusion GPS had a former British intelligence professional working for it. That former British intelligence professional talked to people from various nations while gathering information. But that does not mean the Democrat Party in general or Hillary in particular paid other nations to get dirt on Trump.GannonFan wrote:The "but Hillary" thing is entirely incorrect. Hillary gave money to other nations to get dirt on Trump (and maybe even Biden if the rumors are true). Trump just asked for it with the power of the office behind him. Both wrong and illegal, but different.Chizzang wrote:
Ah...
"but Hilary"
I'm so glad we're still there two and a half years later
Wait - are you saying that anyone who follows the law is a “liberal?”BDKJMU wrote:Yeah after 2017 I bet every conversation with a foreign leader was moved to a secure server with all the liberal leakers in the WH..SeattleGriz wrote:
I get that you are saying the transcript is not the entire conversation, but it is still a transcript.
And why would they move it to a secure server? How many private conversations of Obama's were released? I can now think of three phone calls of Trump with other leaders now having been released.
Those releasing this information I hope are caught and prosecuted. It is not their job to dictate policy. We already have people who's job it is to listen in on the President's calls.
Trumps only mistake was having a non private conversation with president of Ukraine.
A POTUS should have those conversations.BDKJMU wrote:Should a POTUS be able to have a private conversation with a foreign leader? I would lean towards yes.kalm wrote:
Cynically, that might happen and probably needs to. But are you ok with President Warren privately negotiating deals on your behalf?
And if a conversation is being recorded/has a transcript, its not private.
There should be a record of every conversation a President has in their official capacity. I can't believe anyone would argue otherwise.BDKJMU wrote:Should a POTUS be able to have a private conversation with a foreign leader? I would lean towards yes.kalm wrote:
Cynically, that might happen and probably needs to. But are you ok with President Warren privately negotiating deals on your behalf?
And if a conversation is being recorded/has a transcript, its not private.
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions...But you have to go home now. We have to have peace…
..I know how you feel, but go home, and go home in peace.
Ok, so you say a POTUS shouldn’t be able to have a private conversation (in their official capacity).JohnStOnge wrote:There should be a record of every conversation a President has in their official capacity. I can't believe anyone would argue otherwise.BDKJMU wrote: Should a POTUS be able to have a private conversation with a foreign leader? I would lean towards yes.
And if a conversation is being recorded/has a transcript, its not private.
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions...But you have to go home now. We have to have peace…
..I know how you feel, but go home, and go home in peace.