Liar in Chief

[Chizzang]

Trump faces more scrutiny because his predecessors didn't do the stuff he does.

This is all on him and his cronies.

see this ^ is how you damage your own credibility - do "stuff" cannot go undefined
Give an example

otherwise you allow your opponent the ability to focus on your omission rather than the topic at hand

[89Hen]

Trump faces more scrutiny because his predecessors didn't do the stuff he does.

This is all on him and his cronies.

see this ^ is how you damage your own credibility...

Is that even possible?

[AZGrizFan]

I DO know a lot of people who think Trump is being held to a different standard than his predecessors, however.

Look,
all Trump had to do was do what EVERY predecessor had been doing for 100 years... submit his taxes
once he decided he was "above the scrutiny" of the people he kicked that door open himself



The idea that this is all somehow "thrust" onto him and he's a "victim"
is perhaps the most myopic denial of the obvious I've seen in years

and also kind of funny too...

I never once said he's a "victim". He's doing stupid shit every day. But it's the same stupid shit his predecessors did before him. Suddenly the woke Dems want to hold him to some mythical higher standard that nobody has been held to before.
And..... now it's all about his taxes????

You telling me if he'd just released his TAXES, this three year witch hunt could have been avoided???

[Chizzang]

Look,
all Trump had to do was do what EVERY predecessor had been doing for 100 years... submit his taxes
once he decided he was "above the scrutiny" of the people he kicked that door open himself



The idea that this is all somehow "thrust" onto him and he's a "victim"
is perhaps the most myopic denial of the obvious I've seen in years

and also kind of funny too...

I never once said he's a "victim". He's doing stupid shit every day. But it's the same stupid shit his predecessors did before him. Suddenly the woke Dems want to hold him to some mythical higher standard that nobody has been held to before.
And..... now it's all about his taxes????

You telling me if he'd just released his TAXES, this three year witch hunt could have been avoided???

You pretending its "the same sh1t" isn't exactly genuine...
how could he be doing stupid sh1t every day and it be the same shit



and it is all about his taxes - from day one... it just proved he is a criminal and a con man

[AZGrizFan]

I never once said he's a "victim". He's doing stupid shit every day. But it's the same stupid shit his predecessors did before him. Suddenly the woke Dems want to hold him to some mythical higher standard that nobody has been held to before.
And..... now it's all about his taxes????

You telling me if he'd just released his TAXES, this three year witch hunt could have been avoided???

You pretending its "the same sh1t" isn't exactly genuine...
how could he be doing stupid sh1t every day and it be the same shit



and it is all about his taxes - from day one... it just proved he is a criminal and a con man

It is the same shit, slightly nuanced, but it's the same shit. It was stupid then when his predecessors did it, and its stupid now, but only NOW is it viewed as "criminal" by the woke left.

And bull-fucking-shit about the taxes. If you truly think he'd have avoided all this 36 months of impeachment bullshit just by releasing his taxes I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.

[CAA Flagship]

Look,
all Trump had to do was do what EVERY predecessor had been doing for 100 years... submit his taxes
once he decided he was "above the scrutiny" of the people he kicked that door open himself



The idea that this is all somehow "thrust" onto him and he's a "victim"
is perhaps the most myopic denial of the obvious I've seen in years

and also kind of funny too...

I would think that YOU would understand that taxes involving real estate are some of the most fucked up, loophole ridden, hard to wrap your head around laws under the IRS. Handing a stack of real estate related tax papers to journalists would be one of the dumbest things anyone could do. Do you really think there wouldn't be a boatload of misinformation associated with their reporting?

All I care about with DJT's taxes is that he submitted his forms to the IRS. That is all every other American is required to do. It's up to the IRS to figure it out. They are the "experts". Need a closer look? Audit him. Hell, bring in private consultants if you have to. But letting journalists and sidewalk tax experts be judge and jury would be a complete circus.

[Chizzang]

Look,
all Trump had to do was do what EVERY predecessor had been doing for 100 years... submit his taxes
once he decided he was "above the scrutiny" of the people he kicked that door open himself



The idea that this is all somehow "thrust" onto him and he's a "victim"
is perhaps the most myopic denial of the obvious I've seen in years

and also kind of funny too...

I would think that YOU would understand that taxes involving real estate are some of the most fucked up, loophole ridden, hard to wrap your head around laws under the IRS. Handing a stack of real estate related tax papers to journalists would be one of the dumbest things anyone could do. Do you really think there wouldn't be a boatload of misinformation associated with their reporting?

All I care about with DJT's taxes is that he submitted his forms to the IRS. That is all every other American is required to do. It's up to the IRS to figure it out. They are the "experts". Need a closer look? Audit him. Hell, bring in private consultants if you have to. But letting journalists and sidewalk tax experts be judge and jury would be a complete circus.

You know and I know... Billionaires don't get audited by the IRS
and the IRS has as much as flat out admitted that

How are we going to create change if people don't understand just how easy it is for them
and just how rigged the system is for them
apologizing for all their loopholes is probably not the answer (but nice try)

The point:
100 years of Presidents submitting their taxes for all to see is a low bar to hurdle
If you can't hurdle that one - then you get what you're asking for

Trump is getting exactly what he asked for



and a bunch of conservatives apologizing for a rigged playing field
and agreeing that we need to keep the rigged playing field hidden
is pretty telling actually as to why things will never be set right again

https://www.propublica.org/article/irs- ... t-the-poor

[AZGrizFan]

The point:
100 years of Presidents submitting their taxes for all to see is a low bar to hurdle
If you can't hurdle that one - then you get what you're asking for

Trump is getting exactly what he asked for



and a bunch of conservatives apologizing for a rigged playing field
and agreeing that we need to keep the rigged playing field hidden
is pretty telling actually as to why things will never be set right again

https://www.propublica.org/article/irs- ... t-the-poor

So, the "Not releasing his taxes caused all this" is the hill you really want to die on?

Yeah, I'm just CERTAIN those omnipotent Dems would have left poor Donald alone if he had just released his taxes....

Wow.

[css75]

I never once said he's a "victim". He's doing stupid shit every day. But it's the same stupid shit his predecessors did before him. Suddenly the woke Dems want to hold him to some mythical higher standard that nobody has been held to before.
And..... now it's all about his taxes????

You telling me if he'd just released his TAXES, this three year witch hunt could have been avoided???

You pretending its "the same sh1t" isn't exactly genuine...
how could he be doing stupid sh1t every day and it be the same shit



and it is all about his taxes - from day one... it just proved he is a criminal and a con man

How has anything been proven?


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[Chizzang]

So, the "Not releasing his taxes caused all this" is the hill you really want to die on?

Yeah, I'm just CERTAIN those omnipotent Dems would have left poor Donald alone if he had just released his taxes....

Wow.

I don't think you know what omnipotent means



and yes, it was his first step into the abyss...
it showed that he thinks he is above the law - beyond the fact that he's said as much out loud

[Chizzang]

How has anything been proven?

Jesus told me...



Thus its irrefutable

[CAA Flagship]

I would think that YOU would understand that taxes involving real estate are some of the most fucked up, loophole ridden, hard to wrap your head around laws under the IRS. Handing a stack of real estate related tax papers to journalists would be one of the dumbest things anyone could do. Do you really think there wouldn't be a boatload of misinformation associated with their reporting?

All I care about with DJT's taxes is that he submitted his forms to the IRS. That is all every other American is required to do. It's up to the IRS to figure it out. They are the "experts". Need a closer look? Audit him. Hell, bring in private consultants if you have to. But letting journalists and sidewalk tax experts be judge and jury would be a complete circus.

You know and I know... Billionaires don't get audited by the IRS
and the IRS has as much as flat out admitted that

How are we going to create change if people don't understand just how easy it is for them
and just how rigged the system is for them
apologizing for all their loopholes is probably not the answer (but nice try)

The point:
100 years of Presidents submitting their taxes for all to see is a low bar to hurdle
If you can't hurdle that one - then you get what you're asking for

Trump is getting exactly what he asked for



and a bunch of conservatives apologizing for a rigged playing field
and agreeing that we need to keep the rigged playing field hidden
is pretty telling actually as to why things will never be set right again

https://www.propublica.org/article/irs- ... t-the-poor

So the fact that the IRS won't, or never will, crack down on the wealthy is because of Trump?
If journalists were at all knowledgeable on, or cared about, the subject, they don't need to see his tax returns to begin beating the drum.

[JohnStOnge]

The stupid shit Trump has been doing is not the same as that of his predecessors. Trump has set completely new standards on the stupid shit front.

[css75]

Jesus told me...



Thus its irrefutable

Has anybody told you that you can really be an ass when you want to?


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[Chizzang]

You know and I know... Billionaires don't get audited by the IRS
and the IRS has as much as flat out admitted that

How are we going to create change if people don't understand just how easy it is for them
and just how rigged the system is for them
apologizing for all their loopholes is probably not the answer (but nice try)

The point:
100 years of Presidents submitting their taxes for all to see is a low bar to hurdle
If you can't hurdle that one - then you get what you're asking for

Trump is getting exactly what he asked for



and a bunch of conservatives apologizing for a rigged playing field
and agreeing that we need to keep the rigged playing field hidden
is pretty telling actually as to why things will never be set right again

https://www.propublica.org/article/irs- ... t-the-poor

So the fact that the IRS won't, or never will, crack down on the wealthy is because of Trump?
If journalists were at all knowledgeable on, or cared about, the subject, they don't need to see his tax returns to begin beating the drum.

I don;t disagree with you entirely but
The point remains unchanged...

[Chizzang]

Jesus told me...



Thus its irrefutable

Has anybody told you that you can really be an ass when you want to?

I dish it out but I don't want to hurt people
I will poke at "beliefs" pretty hard and guys like 89hen and AZ poke back at mine



I've got some soft spots
CID has found most of them because secretly he's as much of a dick as I am

[UNI88]

Has anybody told you that you can really be an ass when you want to?

I dish it out but I don't want to hurt people
I will poke at "beliefs" pretty hard and guys like 89hen and AZ poke back at mine



I've got some soft spots
CID has found most of them because secretly he's as much of a dick as I am

A CS get-together with you, CID, 93, IT, Kalm, Ibanez and AZ would be awesome. I'd include 89 but we know he wouldn't show so why bother.

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[JBB]

Barr has moved The investigation of the roots of the plot to destroy Donald Trump and his Presidency to the status of a criminal matter.

The announcement that this is now a criminal investigation means that anyone, including FBI agents and CIA officers, who try to hold back information or hide information will be vulnerable to obstruction of justice charges. Criminal penalties attach.

Deep state operatives inside the Federal government now must cooperate or go to jail. No more groundless formal objections to delay or block access to information. No more stonewalling and delaying. These types of delaying tactics were immediately withdrawn by the democrats as the consequences for their groundless actions are now criminal obstruction of justice with regard to this most serious matter.

At some point the lawyers for the media companies will wake up and realize that spreading lies on behalf of people facing criminal charges could expose them to obstruction charges as well.

We are about to find out who the liars really are.

At the same time all federal subscriptions of the lying NYT and WAPO were cancelled.

[AZGrizFan]

So, the "Not releasing his taxes caused all this" is the hill you really want to die on?

Yeah, I'm just CERTAIN those omnipotent Dems would have left poor Donald alone if he had just released his taxes....

Wow.

I don't think you know what omnipotent means



and yes, it was his first step into the abyss...
it showed that he thinks he is above the law - beyond the fact that he's said as much out loud

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I looked it up before I used it. It’s used correctly.

[AZGrizFan]

I dish it out but I don't want to hurt people
I will poke at "beliefs" pretty hard and guys like 89hen and AZ poke back at mine



I've got some soft spots
CID has found most of them because secretly he's as much of a dick as I am

A CS get-together with you, CID, 93, IT, Kalm, Ibanez and AZ would be awesome. I'd include 89 but we know he wouldn't show so why bother.

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I’ve met (at least once) Chizz, IT and Ibanez. All good dudes. And CID, 93, Klammy, you and HI are high on my list of folks I want to have a beer with.

[CAA Flagship]

The stupid shit Trump has been doing is not the same as that of his predecessors. Trump has set completely new standards on the stupid shit front.

And the economy.

[Ivytalk]

I dish it out but I don't want to hurt people
I will poke at "beliefs" pretty hard and guys like 89hen and AZ poke back at mine



I've got some soft spots
CID has found most of them because secretly he's as much of a dick as I am

A CS get-together with you, CID, 93, IT, Kalm, Ibanez and AZ would be awesome. I'd include 89 but we know he wouldn't show so why bother.

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LAWL!

[HI54UNI]

Jesus told me...



Thus its irrefutable

I have to admit I at this response.

[CID1990]

Has anybody told you that you can really be an ass when you want to?

I dish it out but I don't want to hurt people
I will poke at "beliefs" pretty hard and guys like 89hen and AZ poke back at mine



I've got some soft spots
CID has found most of them because secretly he's as much of a dick as I am

It’s true I’m a dick but I usually save it for knuckleheads and Wiki warriors

[Chizzang]

I dish it out but I don't want to hurt people
I will poke at "beliefs" pretty hard and guys like 89hen and AZ poke back at mine



I've got some soft spots
CID has found most of them because secretly he's as much of a dick as I am

It’s true I’m a dick but I usually save it for knuckleheads and Wiki warriors