And he was such a likable guy too.93henfan wrote:I guess somebody else will be taking my AR-15.Col Hogan wrote:Robert Francis has dropped out of the race...
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/01/us/p ... s-out.html
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A reasonable move. Now we'll see if he ends up running for Senate. Yes, I know he's indicated he won't. But it's a nothing to lose sort of thing for the Democrats if they can convince him to run.Col Hogan wrote:Robert Francis has dropped out of the race...
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/01/us/p ... s-out.html
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Well, John, with your impeccable Democrat credentials, you’re just the man to talk him into it.JohnStOnge wrote:A reasonable move. Now we'll see if he ends up running for Senate. Yes, I know he's indicated he won't. But it's a nothing to lose sort of thing for the Democrats if they can convince him to run.Col Hogan wrote:Robert Francis has dropped out of the race...
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As you know, I am not a Democrat. However, we are a point in history right now where an overwhelming defeat of the Republican Party would be good for the country. In fact the country really needs for that to happen. The Republican Party has now shown itself to be a totally corrupt institution that needs to be consigned to irrelevance. In that regard, I would like to see Beto run for the Senate in Texas. The odds are against him winning but he would probably be the best chance of defeating the Republican.Ivytalk wrote:Well, John, with your impeccable Democrat credentials, you’re just the man to talk him into it.JohnStOnge wrote:
A reasonable move. Now we'll see if he ends up running for Senate. Yes, I know he's indicated he won't. But it's a nothing to lose sort of thing for the Democrats if they can convince him to run.
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I don’t know that, John. You say you’re no longer a Republican, and you back any Democrat with a pulse (and a few without). If it walks like a Donk and talks like a Donk....JohnStOnge wrote:As you know, I am not a Democrat. However, we are a point in history right now where an overwhelming defeat of the Republican Party would be good for the country. In fact the country really needs for that to happen. The Republican Party has now shown itself to be a totally corrupt institution that needs to be consigned to irrelevance. In that regard, I would like to see Beto run for the Senate in Texas. The odds are against him winning but he would probably be the best chance of defeating the Republican.Ivytalk wrote:
Well, John, with your impeccable Democrat credentials, you’re just the man to talk him into it.
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If I was ever a Republican, I was not recently. I have been registered as a Libertarian for as long as I can remember. At the same time, I was born in 1957 and can only remember one case in my lifetime where i voted for a Democrat prior to 2016. And I am a person who votes in every election local, state and national.Ivytalk wrote:I don’t know that, John. You say you’re no longer a Republican, and you back any Democrat with a pulse (and a few without). If it walks like a Donk and talks like a Donk....JohnStOnge wrote:
As you know, I am not a Democrat. However, we are a point in history right now where an overwhelming defeat of the Republican Party would be good for the country. In fact the country really needs for that to happen. The Republican Party has now shown itself to be a totally corrupt institution that needs to be consigned to irrelevance. In that regard, I would like to see Beto run for the Senate in Texas. The odds are against him winning but he would probably be the best chance of defeating the Republican.
I did not vote Republican because I thought the Republican Party is great. I did it because I thought it was the lessor of two evils among realistic choices. That has changed. I now see the Democrat Party as the lessor of two evils as the Republican Party has really plunged into darkness in association with this Trump thing. Just completely thrown any semblance of integrity out the window and is all in with a totally corrupt, dishonest, and mentally ill guy.
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Yup, and you’ll throw your alleged Libertarian principles to the wind by supporting any unremitting statist that the Donks put up. So much for integrity.JohnStOnge wrote:If I was ever a Republican, I was not recently. I have been registered as a Libertarian for as long as I can remember. At the same time, I was born in 1957 and can only remember one case in my lifetime where i voted for a Democrat prior to 2016. And I am a person who votes in every election local, state and national.Ivytalk wrote: I don’t know that, John. You say you’re no longer a Republican, and you back any Democrat with a pulse (and a few without). If it walks like a Donk and talks like a Donk....
I did not vote Republican because I thought the Republican Party is great. I did it because I thought it was the lessor of two evils among realistic choices. That has changed. I now see the Democrat Party as the lessor of two evils as the Republican Party has really plunged into darkness in association with this Trump thing. Just completely thrown any semblance of integrity out the window and is all in with a totally corrupt, dishonest, and mentally ill guy.
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You calling yourself a Libertarian while supporting any Dem candidate currently in the field is just as incongruent as Republicans supporting runaway deficit spending under TrumpJohnStOnge wrote:If I was ever a Republican, I was not recently. I have been registered as a Libertarian for as long as I can remember. At the same time, I was born in 1957 and can only remember one case in my lifetime where i voted for a Democrat prior to 2016. And I am a person who votes in every election local, state and national.Ivytalk wrote: I don’t know that, John. You say you’re no longer a Republican, and you back any Democrat with a pulse (and a few without). If it walks like a Donk and talks like a Donk....
I did not vote Republican because I thought the Republican Party is great. I did it because I thought it was the lessor of two evils among realistic choices. That has changed. I now see the Democrat Party as the lessor of two evils as the Republican Party has really plunged into darkness in association with this Trump thing. Just completely thrown any semblance of integrity out the window and is all in with a totally corrupt, dishonest, and mentally ill guy.
You just make it sound as though you are ill yourself when you try to reconcile that.
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I don’t support the Republican Party either, Jearfmainejeff2 wrote:Some of you guys just can't take the fact that some people will not support the Republican Party as long as it blindly supports an anti-American criminal like Trump.
But I also don’t abandon conservative principles just because the GOP has
This is one of many distinctions that understandably escape you
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He's not running for the Senate. All of his goofy comments about taking people's guns have pretty well ended that.JohnStOnge wrote:A reasonable move. Now we'll see if he ends up running for Senate. Yes, I know he's indicated he won't. But it's a nothing to lose sort of thing for the Democrats if they can convince him to run.Col Hogan wrote:Robert Francis has dropped out of the race...
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Glad his 15 minutes of fame are over. Heard that psycho Kamala Harris was closing up shops in the NE too...so hopefully she’s done as well.HI54UNI wrote:He's not running for the Senate. All of his goofy comments about taking people's guns have pretty well ended that.JohnStOnge wrote:
A reasonable move. Now we'll see if he ends up running for Senate. Yes, I know he's indicated he won't. But it's a nothing to lose sort of thing for the Democrats if they can convince him to run.
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Heard that too. She's staking it all on Iowa. Lucky us!AZGrizFan wrote:Glad his 15 minutes of fame are over. Heard that psycho Kamala Harris was closing up shops in the NE too...so hopefully she’s done as well.HI54UNI wrote:
He's not running for the Senate. All of his goofy comments about taking people's guns have pretty well ended that.
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I was thinking the same thing - he may have torpedoed his chances in Texas pandering to the national progressive vote - and guns are still a third railHI54UNI wrote:He's not running for the Senate. All of his goofy comments about taking people's guns have pretty well ended that.JohnStOnge wrote:
A reasonable move. Now we'll see if he ends up running for Senate. Yes, I know he's indicated he won't. But it's a nothing to lose sort of thing for the Democrats if they can convince him to run.
especially in Texas
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Well, she’ll always have Willie Brown!AZGrizFan wrote:Glad his 15 minutes of fame are over. Heard that psycho Kamala Harris was closing up shops in the NE too...so hopefully she’s done as well.HI54UNI wrote:
He's not running for the Senate. All of his goofy comments about taking people's guns have pretty well ended that.
She can also cling to the hope that Biden or Harris will choose her for VPOTUS. Woman of color and all that.
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It's like shes making this shit up as she goes along.
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Baldy wrote: It's like shes making this shit up as she goes along.
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Absolute proof she has zero idea how the real world works.Baldy wrote: It's like shes making this shit up as she goes along.
Seriously, how does someone get THAT clueless?
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Yes. Without question.mainejeff2 wrote:More "psycho" than Donald J. Trump?AZGrizFan wrote:
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She was a professor and then a politician. The last time she may have experienced the real world was in the early to mid 70's. Which of course, is now people refer to her age.I'm not voting for an old person this time around. Time to move on to the next generation and see if they can do any better. The bar's been pretty well lowered by the Boomers so decent chance.AZGrizFan wrote:Absolute proof she has zero idea how the real world works.Baldy wrote: It's like shes making this shit up as she goes along.
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Looks like Trump isn’t the only one with a “Mexico will pay for it” policy
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AZGrizFan wrote:Absolute proof she has zero idea how the real world works.Baldy wrote: It's like shes making this shit up as she goes along.
Seriously, how does someone get THAT clueless?
Just curious, but aren’t auto insurance and car insurance the same?
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...It’s coming for your guns and disposable income?Ivytalk wrote:I don’t know that, John. You say you’re no longer a Republican, and you back any Democrat with a pulse (and a few without). If it walks like a Donk and talks like a Donk....JohnStOnge wrote:
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Except with the wall were talking billions. With Pocahontas’s health care plan are talking 10s of trillions, 52 trillion over 10 years to be exact..CID1990 wrote:Looks like Trump isn’t the only one with a “Mexico will pay for it” policy
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Question: If Creepy Joe gets the POTUS nomination, would he choose septuagenarian white chick Warren to get the hopey-changey vote out, or 50-something mixed race chick Caramel Harris to get the minority vote out?
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If you're talking about for the current cycle, no. If you're talking about Libertarian candidates running in general elections in the past, yes.Ivytalk wrote:JohnStOnge wrote:
Pop quiz: can you name three Libertarian Party candidates for POTUS without Googling them?
I am registered as a Libertarian because a higher proportion of my own positions are held by the Libertarian Party than are held by Democrat or Republican Parties. I am not involved in Libertarian Party processes like selecting candidates. And, as I've said before, I will not vote in a general election for someone who has no chance to win.
Now, if they would go to "instant primary" or "ranked" voting as I wish they would, I would.
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