Col Hogan wrote:Ibanez wrote:
You mad bro? Someone has the guts to report something irregular and all of the sudden you believe Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows and whatever bullshit they spew? Vindman was on the phone.
Let’s see...a Lt Col who was on the phone call says something was irregular...
I’ll raise your Lt Col with a Lt General, who was also on the phone call, who says nothing irregular happened...and ask, why hasn’t the committee leadership called him to testify...
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/v ... -testimony
WOW! 2 people with different opinions. Stop the presses. What makes the LtGen more credible? What makes the LtCol less credible? The extra(lack of) brass? Maybe the LG has more to lose. Do you know the LtGen personally?
I don't think you're looking at this objectively. In fact, none of us are. Some of us are more open to the fact that Trump is a shady, corrupt man but willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. If there were evidence to exonerate him, i'd love to see it b/c I would hate to think that our Country's reputation is being damaged by this and that our leader is abusing his office.
It seems to me that we have a lot of people, especially on this board that take some witnesses at face value and others are clearly lying or bias. Everything we've been told to date, under oath, leaves me no reason to believe that these men and women are lying just to push Trump out of office. You've got more people than not confirming the whistle-blower complaint. After Sondeland's testimony this morning, it sounds like all of this is true. That aid was held in order to gain a political favor. Maybe you have some inside information that should be shared with Congress.
If the call was proper, why won't the White House allow those like Bolton or Mulvaney testify and clear the air? I'd love to hear what they have to say. They're close advisers, they're in the room where it happens. Surely thier testimony will carry substantial weight.
I don't have anymore insight than you, AZ, dback, the other 320+ million Americans. BUt from what has presented, and the corroboration it seems to be that they are telling the truth.
And the GOP is still spewing conspiracy theories that it was Ukraine and not Russia interference in 2016. The FBI, CIA, DOJ, DNI, NSA, and two Congressional committees concluded that it was Russia. Many of these are led by Trump appointees.
And instead of trying to defend the president or the conduct, they choose to denigrate the character of the witnesses.
Like I said, i would love to see a witness come and prove Trump was acting properly. But it seems more and more that aid was NOT tied to any diplomatic or security reason rather it was tied to a political favor that benefited Trump.
Btw, PBS is left leaning. Can we really trust them?
Maybe it's more fake news from the deep state.
