The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread
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This is a good day to reflect upon how embarrassing it is to be a citizen of this country when Donald Trump is President of the United States.
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You are incorrect. There is not mathematical evidence that Trump has had a positive impact on the economy. That is the point. If you care to debate that point by point submit your "clear mathematical evidence" and I will debunk it. It's not there.GannonFan wrote:Agreed, there are plenty of reasons to be abhorred of Trump, but to rail time and time again that Trump hasn't had a positive impact on the economy over and above that of his predecessor, in spite of clear mathematical evidence supporting that, is starting to be the new definition of insanity. JSO was a levelheaded poster years ago, but the years and the Trump presidency have not been good to him, unfortunately.Ibanez wrote:I might start blocking JSO. I'm no fan of Trump by any means but I am able to give the man a fair shake and credit when it's due (like USMCA...get it done CONGRESS!!!!).
John, you're a broken record. Please - for your own mental health - focus on what matters like family and fishing.
Your task is to demonstrate that there is a cause and effect relationship between Trump being President and the economy being better than it otherwise would have been. Go for it.
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There is mathematical evidence he has had a positive impact on the judiciary and SCOTUSJohnStOnge wrote:You are incorrect. There is not mathematical evidence that Trump has had a positive impact on the economy. That is the point. If you care to debate that point by point submit your "clear mathematical evidence" and I will debunk it. It's not there.GannonFan wrote:
Agreed, there are plenty of reasons to be abhorred of Trump, but to rail time and time again that Trump hasn't had a positive impact on the economy over and above that of his predecessor, in spite of clear mathematical evidence supporting that, is starting to be the new definition of insanity. JSO was a levelheaded poster years ago, but the years and the Trump presidency have not been good to him, unfortunately.
Your task is to demonstrate that there is a cause and effect relationship between Trump being President and the economy being better than it otherwise would have been. Go for it.
I’ll show my math... here it is:
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There was a Dr. Phil rerun about OCD today. I commend it to your attention.JohnStOnge wrote:You are incorrect. There is not mathematical evidence that Trump has had a positive impact on the economy. That is the point. If you care to debate that point by point submit your "clear mathematical evidence" and I will debunk it. It's not there.GannonFan wrote:
Agreed, there are plenty of reasons to be abhorred of Trump, but to rail time and time again that Trump hasn't had a positive impact on the economy over and above that of his predecessor, in spite of clear mathematical evidence supporting that, is starting to be the new definition of insanity. JSO was a levelheaded poster years ago, but the years and the Trump presidency have not been good to him, unfortunately.
Your task is to demonstrate that there is a cause and effect relationship between Trump being President and the economy being better than it otherwise would have been. Go for it.
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So you’re taking the position that if Hildabeast had been elected we’d be in the exact same place, economically?JohnStOnge wrote:You are incorrect. There is not mathematical evidence that Trump has had a positive impact on the economy. That is the point. If you care to debate that point by point submit your "clear mathematical evidence" and I will debunk it. It's not there.GannonFan wrote:
Agreed, there are plenty of reasons to be abhorred of Trump, but to rail time and time again that Trump hasn't had a positive impact on the economy over and above that of his predecessor, in spite of clear mathematical evidence supporting that, is starting to be the new definition of insanity. JSO was a levelheaded poster years ago, but the years and the Trump presidency have not been good to him, unfortunately.
Your task is to demonstrate that there is a cause and effect relationship between Trump being President and the economy being better than it otherwise would have been. Go for it.
* Lowest unemployment since 1969
* Lowest black unemployment ever
* lowest Hispanic unemployment ever
* 27 stock market records in 2017 (largest one-year % increase since Roosevelt)
* First close over 27,000
* First close over 28,000
* Highest business confidence reading ever
* longest economic expansion ever
* Highest black business startup rate ever
* 15,000,000 people off food stamps
* Renegotiation of NAFTA
* Winning against China
* Tax reform for middle class
* Oh, and what CID said....THE JUDGES
Yeah, I’m gonna have to disagree with your assertion.
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What you don't get is that nobody comes here to change anybody's mind. Everybody here understands that arguing about stuff like gun control and election outcomes is an just academic exercise -this is a great place to vent. Nobody with a lick of sense believes that its possible to confiscate 300,000,000 guns even if you emptied every donut shop in the country and put the cops to work full time doing nothing but collecting guns. Likewise electronic voting - only here, like the Electoral College, to ensure that the establishment has the last word.Ivytalk wrote:Why spend hours of your time digging up stuff on the Internet in a vain effort to convince maybe 20 guys on a political message board of the rightness of your cause? That’s what I just don’t get. He’d do better to get out on the hustings of Loozianna and preach it to the coon-ass masses.
Hell, I'm even coming around to the idea that another term of trump could be acceptable as long as he keeps making a laughingstock out of the Republicans and the FBI while he's at it.
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You used to blather on about how little effect the president has on markets during the Obama admin. All the good news was really bad news and tan suit birth certificate muslim Kenya Manchurian candidate....AZGrizFan wrote:So you’re taking the position that if Hildabeast had been elected we’d be in the exact same place, economically?JohnStOnge wrote:
You are incorrect. There is not mathematical evidence that Trump has had a positive impact on the economy. That is the point. If you care to debate that point by point submit your "clear mathematical evidence" and I will debunk it. It's not there.
Your task is to demonstrate that there is a cause and effect relationship between Trump being President and the economy being better than it otherwise would have been. Go for it.
* Lowest unemployment since 1969
* Lowest black unemployment ever
* lowest Hispanic unemployment ever
* 27 stock market records in 2017 (largest one-year % increase since Roosevelt)
* First close over 27,000
* First close over 28,000
* Highest business confidence reading ever
* longest economic expansion ever
* Highest black business startup rate ever
* 15,000,000 people off food stamps
* Renegotiation of NAFTA
* Winning against China
* Tax reform for middle class
* Oh, and what CID said....THE JUDGES
Yeah, I’m gonna have to disagree with your assertion.
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JohnStOnge wrote:You are incorrect. There is not mathematical evidence that Trump has had a positive impact on the economy. That is the point. If you care to debate that point by point submit your "clear mathematical evidence" and I will debunk it. It's not there.GannonFan wrote:
Agreed, there are plenty of reasons to be abhorred of Trump, but to rail time and time again that Trump hasn't had a positive impact on the economy over and above that of his predecessor, in spite of clear mathematical evidence supporting that, is starting to be the new definition of insanity. JSO was a levelheaded poster years ago, but the years and the Trump presidency have not been good to him, unfortunately.
Your task is to demonstrate that there is a cause and effect relationship between Trump being President and the economy being better than it otherwise would have been. Go for it.
Here you go John. Lots of math and charts.
https://youtu.be/OyvzJqF6ZW8
I'll look to see if I can find a video where the charts aren't off screen.
Shouldn't be too hard, as this was a daily briefing.
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JSO, we are 3 years into his presidency. If you can't understand that the election of a POTUS can move markets, based on what they may do for the country, then you really need to step away and do some reading.JohnStOnge wrote:You are incorrect. There is not mathematical evidence that Trump has had a positive impact on the economy. That is the point. If you care to debate that point by point submit your "clear mathematical evidence" and I will debunk it. It's not there.GannonFan wrote:
Agreed, there are plenty of reasons to be abhorred of Trump, but to rail time and time again that Trump hasn't had a positive impact on the economy over and above that of his predecessor, in spite of clear mathematical evidence supporting that, is starting to be the new definition of insanity. JSO was a levelheaded poster years ago, but the years and the Trump presidency have not been good to him, unfortunately.
Your task is to demonstrate that there is a cause and effect relationship between Trump being President and the economy being better than it otherwise would have been. Go for it.
I'm an idiot when it comes to economics, but I've taken enough econ, poli sci and history classes to understand that the PRESENCE of a leader can move financial markets.
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Hell, even polls showing who might win a Presidential election will bump the markets a littleIbanez wrote:JSO, we are 3 years into his presidency. If you can't understand that the election of a POTUS can move markets, based on what they may do for the country, then you really need to step away and do some reading.JohnStOnge wrote:
You are incorrect. There is not mathematical evidence that Trump has had a positive impact on the economy. That is the point. If you care to debate that point by point submit your "clear mathematical evidence" and I will debunk it. It's not there.
Your task is to demonstrate that there is a cause and effect relationship between Trump being President and the economy being better than it otherwise would have been. Go for it.
I'm an idiot when it comes to economics, but I've taken enough econ, poli sci and history classes to understand that the PRESENCE of a leader can move financial markets.
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Exactly. Apparently JSO doesn't know that news of any sort can move markets one way or another.CID1990 wrote:Hell, even polls showing who might win a Presidential election will bump the markets a littleIbanez wrote:JSO, we are 3 years into his presidency. If you can't understand that the election of a POTUS can move markets, based on what they may do for the country, then you really need to step away and do some reading.
I'm an idiot when it comes to economics, but I've taken enough econ, poli sci and history classes to understand that the PRESENCE of a leader can move financial markets.
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You fellas are crazy.Ibanez wrote:Exactly. Apparently JSO doesn't know that news of any sort can move markets one way or another.CID1990 wrote:
Hell, even polls showing who might win a Presidential election will bump the markets a little
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/09/us-markets.html
U.S. stocks surged more than 1 percent Wednesday with financials and health care leading after Republican Donald Trump won the presidential election, defying market expectations for a Hillary Clinton win.
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Fake News89Hen wrote:You fellas are crazy.Ibanez wrote: Exactly. Apparently JSO doesn't know that news of any sort can move markets one way or another.
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/09/us-markets.html
U.S. stocks surged more than 1 percent Wednesday with financials and health care leading after Republican Donald Trump won the presidential election, defying market expectations for a Hillary Clinton win.
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I think you’re thinking of someone else? I have no idea what the tan suit comment even means....houndawg wrote:You used to blather on about how little effect the president has on markets during the Obama admin. All the good news was really bad news and tan suit birth certificate muslim Kenya Manchurian candidate....AZGrizFan wrote:
So you’re taking the position that if Hildabeast had been elected we’d be in the exact same place, economically?
* Lowest unemployment since 1969
* Lowest black unemployment ever
* lowest Hispanic unemployment ever
* 27 stock market records in 2017 (largest one-year % increase since Roosevelt)
* First close over 27,000
* First close over 28,000
* Highest business confidence reading ever
* longest economic expansion ever
* Highest black business startup rate ever
* 15,000,000 people off food stamps
* Renegotiation of NAFTA
* Winning against China
* Tax reform for middle class
* Oh, and what CID said....THE JUDGES
Yeah, I’m gonna have to disagree with your assertion.
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maybe - several people were at great pains to explain how little the President has to do with a good economy while Obama was in office.AZGrizFan wrote:I think you’re thinking of someone else? I have no idea what the tan suit comment even means....houndawg wrote:
You used to blather on about how little effect the president has on markets during the Obama admin. All the good news was really bad news and tan suit birth certificate muslim Kenya Manchurian candidate....
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What are you doing up so early? Didn’t the fescue is IL stop growing last month?houndawg wrote:maybe - several people were at great pains to explain how little the President has to do with a good economy while Obama was in office.AZGrizFan wrote:
I think you’re thinking of someone else? I have no idea what the tan suit comment even means....
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He’s out winterizing his rusted-out ‘94 Ford Ranger.CID1990 wrote:What are you doing up so early? Didn’t the fescue is IL stop growing last month?houndawg wrote:
maybe - several people were at great pains to explain how little the President has to do with a good economy while Obama was in office.
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The fescue may stop but I don't. I know no other way.CID1990 wrote:What are you doing up so early? Didn’t the fescue is IL stop growing last month?houndawg wrote:
maybe - several people were at great pains to explain how little the President has to do with a good economy while Obama was in office.
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'03 GMC, frat boy.Ivytalk wrote:He’s out winterizing his rusted-out ‘94 Ford Ranger.CID1990 wrote:
What are you doing up so early? Didn’t the fescue is IL stop growing last month?
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What do you do when there’s nothing to bush hog? Browse the bush hog catalogue and contemplate new bush hogs?houndawg wrote:The fescue may stop but I don't. I know no other way.CID1990 wrote:
What are you doing up so early? Didn’t the fescue is IL stop growing last month?
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Oh so close.houndawg wrote:maybe - several people were at great pains to explain how little the President has to do with a good economy while Obama was in office.AZGrizFan wrote:
I think you’re thinking of someone else? I have no idea what the tan suit comment even means....
It was.....great pains to explain how Obama prevented a good economy.
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*brush hogCID1990 wrote: What do you do when there’s nothing to bush hog? Browse the bush hog catalogue and contemplate new bush hogs?
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You got that shit straight....CAA Flagship wrote:*brush hogCID1990 wrote: What do you do when there’s nothing to bush hog? Browse the bush hog catalogue and contemplate new bush hogs?
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kalm wrote:You got that shit straight....CAA Flagship wrote: *brush hog