Greta Meme

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I see this thread hasn't changed since it was started...

...just a bunch of older men laughing at and berating a teen for caring about the future.

Must really instill a sense of pride and self-worth in yourselves. Continue on...

[TheDancinMonarch]

I see this thread hasn't changed since it was started...

...just a bunch of older men laughing at and berating a teen for caring about the future.

Must really instill a sense of pride and self-worth in yourselves. Continue on...

I'm an older woman and if I wanted to take the time I would laugh and berate her too! And the sad reality is that she has been manipulated by other older men into believing this fraud.

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I see this thread hasn't changed since it was started...

...just a bunch of older men laughing at and berating a teen for caring about the future.

Must really instill a sense of pride and self-worth in yourselves. Continue on...

I'm an older woman and if I wanted to take the time I would laugh and berate her too! And the sad reality is that she has been manipulated by other older men into believing this fraud.

She's been manipulated by science. Thankfully science is a global, peer-reviewed, multi-gender effort.

As Dan Rather said, her mission will far outshine any discredited denialism.

[89Hen]

I see this thread hasn't changed since it was started...

...just a bunch of older men laughing at and berating a teen for caring about the future.

Must really instill a sense of pride and self-worth in yourselves. Continue on...

Laughing at yes, but how 'berating'?

[Ibanez]

I take that a lot of this is directed me. Ok - I don’t give a rats ass about her or her message. Honestly - I’ve never heard her speak. I only know about her through the news and memes. I’m speaking from the perspective that instead of calling the kid some nasty, be an adult and attack the policies. Not the kid.


I bet if one of your daughters were in public like this, you’d want the message to be debated and her appearance or apparent defects ignored.

But we dont live in that world.


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My yet to be emancipated daughter would not be the puppet of a neo Maoist global temper tantrum movement - at least not without a little bloodshed on whatever adult was stupid enough to try to co-opt her

I have plenty of sympathy for the little sh1t. In fact her disabilities are being exploited by her handlers -

But 90% of the “attacks” on her aren’t attacks at all - it is dissent against what she is espousing being characterized as attacks. THAT is her utility to these groups- that’s why she is the face of this movement and not some Norwegian college student soyboy.

So although she is being victimized by both her handlers as well as her opponents, I completely reject any attempts to shift the argument away by making her the focus- the Climate Strike manifesto demands need to be front and center, in full daylight

Therefore my response to anybody clutching their pearls over bad things being said about Thunberg is to dismiss them with prejudice. I’m not rewarding deflection by people whose intent is to stifle dissent by using disabled teenagers.


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I didn't say your daughter would be a puppet for a neo-Maoist.

I see plenty of dissent with her politics. That's fine and reasonable. I'm talking about those that are ignoring that and are attacking her based on her sex, age, disability, appearance and even nationality. As if all that crap matters. It's all deflection.

That's my position - go after the handlers and the topic. Otherwise, those attacking her for all those other things are no better than the liberals attacking Trump over his orange skin and fat ass. Or Melania's accent. Or Michelle Obama's weight.

[Ibanez]

I'm an older woman and if I wanted to take the time I would laugh and berate her too! And the sad reality is that she has been manipulated by other older men into believing this fraud.

She's been manipulated by science. Thankfully science is a global, peer-reviewed, multi-gender effort.

As Dan Rather said, her mission will far outshine any discredited denialism.

Unfortunately, both sides of this have fucked up the results and have been alarmists. So neither side of the debate will neither listen, trust nor reason with the other side.

[Ibanez]

I see this thread hasn't changed since it was started...

...just a bunch of older men laughing at and berating a teen for caring about the future.

Must really instill a sense of pride and self-worth in yourselves. Continue on...

Laughing at yes, but how 'berating'?

Yeah - I may be saying something about adults being cruel but I'm not sure I've seen anyone here "berate" Greta.

[89Hen]

Laughing at yes, but how 'berating'?

Yeah - I may be saying something about adults being cruel but I'm not sure I've seen anyone here "berate" Greta.

That's because you're not blind with hatred like Jeff and Trip.

[Ibanez]

Yeah - I may be saying something about adults being cruel but I'm not sure I've seen anyone here "berate" Greta.

That's because you're not blind with hatred like Jeff and Trip.

No I'm not.

Sometimes overly defensive or sensitive but not blind with hatred.

[UNI88]

Were you this concerned when half of congress went after a 16-year old boy who happened to wear a MAGA hat to the national mall?

I don’t seem to recall your anger then....

That's different...tell 'em geoffrey.

The evolution of Geoffrey ...

[Ibanez]

That's different...tell 'em geoffrey.

The evolution of Geoffrey ...

You missed one

[UNI88]

The evolution of Geoffrey ...

You missed one

So Geoffrey and Trump have that in common too.

[UNI88]

I'm an older woman and if I wanted to take the time I would laugh and berate her too! And the sad reality is that she has been manipulated by other older men into believing this fraud.

She's been manipulated by science. Thankfully science is a global, peer-reviewed, multi-gender effort.

As Dan Rather said, her mission will far outshine any discredited denialism.

Selective use of science is another example of the hypocrisy of the left and right. The left loves science for climate change but denies it for biology and evolution. The right does the opposite.

Why does the US and west have to make the sacrifices for climate change while China, India and the third world get a pass? I've been to China, they're decimating the environment.

[Ibanez]

You missed one

So Geoffrey and Trump have that in common too.

I didn't think of that.

[UNI88]

I am willing to listen but would you mind providing some of the actual things she's said that make you think she's a totalitarian?

It' can't be stuff about she wants action to reduce carbon emissions. There is always a tension between government and liberty with that sort of thing. Like having a law saying you can't burn a bunch of trash and have your neighbor choking on the smoke.

One can debate what is and what is not pollution. But wanting to regulate pollution is not totalitarianism.

Judas Priest you are myopic

Go look up the Climate Strike list of demands, JSO. I'm not going to do it for you.

She is their spokesperson. We can only assume that she at least tentatively espouses their manifesto.

Then, defend it.

JSO and the other lefties are avoiding your assignment so I did it for them ...

We Demand:

A Green New Deal

• Transform our economy to 100% clean, renewable energy by 2030 and phase out all fossil fuel extraction through a just and equitable transition, creating millions of good jobs
• A halt to all leasing and permitting for fossil fuel extraction, processing and infrastructure projects immediately

Respect of Indigenous lands and sovereignty

• Honor the treaties protecting Indigenous lands, waters, and sovereignty by the immediate halt of all construction, leasing, and permitting for resource extraction, processing and infrastructure projects affecting or on Indigenous lands
• Recognize the Rights of Nature into law to protect our sacred ecosystems and align human law with natural law to ban resource extraction in defense of our environment and people

Environmental justice.

• A transition that invests in prosperity for communities on the frontlines of poverty and pollution
• Welcoming those displaced by the cumulative effects of the climate crisis, economic inequality, violence, and lack of opportunity

Protection and restoration of biodiversity.

• Protection and restoration of 50% of the world’s lands and oceans including a halt to all deforestation by 2030

Implementation of sustainable agriculture.

• Investment in farmers and regenerative agriculture and an end to subsidies for industrial agriculture

THE US CLIMATE STRIKE DEMANDS

[UNI88]

And all of the young people out there should consider this before lecturing people, especially the Greatest Generation, about conservation ...



My parents were greener than any of you scolds.

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Is that a joke?

The American industrial age, into WWII and the boom afterwards, contributed to the most CO2 per capita ever seen in the history of the World for one nation (among large nations). The US still is still one of the worst per capita (even worse than China), but not nearly as bad as it ever was.

And what is this "back in my day" garbage anyways, as if they're not living today? Those same f*ckers ended up building large homes, buying huge cars, and built the consumer-empire we see today.

A nation as educated, resource-heavy, and wealthy as ours could've easily figured out how to advance green energy and other environmental issues a long time ago. We could have gone to Mars, advanced universal healthcare, been investing into mass-transportation. Instead, prior generations sucked corporate cocks in the hope wealth trickled back to them...everything else be damned, including the environment.

2% said the baby boom legacy would be consumerism and self-indulgence; 27% said changing values and ending a war. The rest, 32%, were closely split among those who chose "nothing at all," some other legacy or just weren't sure.

https://www.forbes.com/2009/07/22/baby- ... 8fdd9b4ac0

[AZGrizFan]

Is that a joke?

The American industrial age, into WWII and the boom afterwards, contributed to the most CO2 per capita ever seen in the history of the World for one nation (among large nations). The US still is still one of the worst per capita (even worse than China), but not nearly as bad as it ever was.

And what is this "back in my day" garbage anyways, as if they're not living today? Those same f*ckers ended up building large homes, buying huge cars, and built the consumer-empire we see today.

A nation as educated, resource-heavy, and wealthy as ours could've easily figured out how to advance green energy and other environmental issues a long time ago. Instead, the generation sucked the cocks of corporations in the hope wealth trickled back to them...everything else be damned, including the environment.

You should move to a country you don’t hate so much.

[Ibanez]

And all of the young people out there should consider this before lecturing people, especially the Greatest Generation, about conservation ...



My parents were greener than any of you scolds.

Yup. Those people had to go through a depression then a world war. 10+ years of scarcity and rationing will have a monumental impact on a population.

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You should move to a country you don’t hate so much.

I don't hate America; this nation has the MOST POTENTIAL if we actually put our energy into sh*t that advances mankind and helps the average person.

While not American, Greta has this right. She understands it's one of the most noble pursuits and professions in history, and that there's a reason we listen to them when they sound alarms. Her future is at stake.

Instead though (in 21st century American nonetheless), we have idiots thinking their five-minutes of watching Youtube and ten-minutes of internet research qualify them as more "woke" than someone who has studied, researched, and written academic papers for 8+ years.

WTF is the point of educating people if society doesn't enjoy the fruits of its investment once the educated are proficient in the subject matter they learned? Hell, what's the point of a functioning society if no one is ever going to trust that others know what they're doing.

Science is peer-reviewed; when 99% of scientists agree on something, I'm f*cking listening.

[Ibanez]

Is that a joke?

The American industrial age, into WWII and the boom afterwards, contributed to the most CO2 per capita ever seen in the history of the World for one nation (among large nations). The US still is still one of the worst per capita (even worse than China), but not nearly as bad as it ever was.

And what is this "back in my day" garbage anyways, as if they're not living today? Those same f*ckers ended up building large homes, buying huge cars, and built the consumer-empire we see today.

A nation as educated, resource-heavy, and wealthy as ours could've easily figured out how to advance green energy and other environmental issues a long time ago. We could have gone to Mars, advanced universal healthcare, been investing into mass-transportation. Instead, prior generations sucked corporate cocks in the hope wealth trickled back to them...everything else be damned, including the environment.

2% said the baby boom legacy would be consumerism and self-indulgence; 27% said changing values and ending a war. The rest, 32%, were closely split among those who chose "nothing at all," some other legacy or just weren't sure.

https://www.forbes.com/2009/07/22/baby- ... 8fdd9b4ac0

You know, I had a long post typed that basically amounts to this - You're being emotional. You don't understand the history or the facts.

Btw, your article links to Baby Boomers. We're talking about their parents. Also, that article is pretty much a Baby Boomer slapping himself on the back. Did you even READ it, or did you just google a stat, quote it and post the link?

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You know, I had a long post typed that basically amounts to this - You're being emotional. You don't understand the history or the facts.

Btw, your article links to Baby Boomers. We're talking about their parents.

Their parents lived through the industrial age. The Boomers afterwards only made it worse.

[UNI88]

Is that a joke?

The American industrial age, into WWII and the boom afterwards, contributed to the most CO2 per capita ever seen in the history of the World for one nation (among large nations). The US still is still one of the worst per capita (even worse than China), but not nearly as bad as it ever was.

And what is this "back in my day" garbage anyways, as if they're not living today? Those same f*ckers ended up building large homes, buying huge cars, and built the consumer-empire we see today.

A nation as educated, resource-heavy, and wealthy as ours could've easily figured out how to advance green energy and other environmental issues a long time ago. We could have gone to Mars, advanced universal healthcare, been investing into mass-transportation. Instead, prior generations sucked corporate cocks in the hope wealth trickled back to them...everything else be damned, including the environment.

2% said the baby boom legacy would be consumerism and self-indulgence; 27% said changing values and ending a war. The rest, 32%, were closely split among those who chose "nothing at all," some other legacy or just weren't sure.

https://www.forbes.com/2009/07/22/baby- ... 8fdd9b4ac0

Yes the industrial age was probably the worst for CO2 but that wasn't because of individuals or their families. People who grew up during the Depression were very frugal and conservationist - they recycled more than Millennials or Xers could dream of.

If you're going to compare the US to China based on per capita output let's subtract the Chinese people who are living in 3rd world conditions and use per capita based on the number of people living a 1st World standard of living. The damage to the environment and pollution in China is incredible and I'm guessing that they influence the testing to hide the actual damage.

As far as those "f*ckers" go, I think you're confusing the Boomers with the Greatest Generation. For someone who blames old people for the world's problems you're kind of ignorant of the differences between the generations. How much electronic crap is filling our landfills because Millennials have to had to have the latest and greatest since they were children? As I've stated Millenials and Boomers have a lot in common so it's funny to see you b!tch about them.

A huge part of the reason this country has accomplished what it has is individual freedom and responsibility and you want to throw a system that has achieved generations of success for one that will provide a single generation of equality following by generations of mediocrity and decay.

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I don't blame the GG during the industrial era...they didn't understand how CO2 and pollution affected the larger world around them, and they didn't have as much political clout yet. While scientists back then were sounding alarms as well, that information didn't get to the population as efficiently.

But to say the GG didn't contribute to the environmental issues is not true; they contributed the most. They held political power for years after WWII. And they, along with the Boomers, overlapped in many of the years that were the worse for the US in terms of environmental effects. It's not like the GG only lived to the 40s and died off. They were as much part of the growth in consumerism and heavy-energy use post-WWII.

[Ibanez]

I don't blame the GG during the industrial era...they didn't understand how CO2 and pollution affected the larger world around them, and they didn't have as much political clout yet. While scientists back then were sounding alarms as well, that information didn't get to the population as efficiently.

But to say the GG didn't contribute to the environmental issues is not true; they contributed the most. They held political power for years after WWII. And they, along with the Boomers, overlapped in many of the years that were the worse for the US in terms of environmental effects. It's not like the GG only lived to the 40s and died off. They were as much part of the growth in consumerism and heavy-energy use post-WWII.

You do realize that the Greatest Generation were children/young adults on the tail end of the Industrial Age, right? We all contribute. You just think your generation is as pure as the driven snow


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