2020 Democratic Nomination Process Mega-thread

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Mean while:

Warren: 'Bernie Once Told Me In Private That 'The Princess Bride' Is A Garbage Movie And Those Who Enjoy It Are Human Trash'

CAMBRIDGE, MA—Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., on Monday said that Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt, in 2018 told her that The Princess Bride is a garbage movie and those who enjoy it are human trash — a statement the Sanders campaign had blasted as "a lie" earlier in the day.

"Bernie and I met for a few hours in May 2018 to discuss the 2020 election," Warren said in a statement. "Among the topics that came up was The Princess Bride. I thought it was a fabulous movie; he disagreed."

Warren claims Bernie also told her that he hates puppies, beer, Dolly Parton, and that on the day he became president he would outlaw french fries. "He told me, people who eat french fries are vermin," she told reporters. "Literal vermin."

"It is ludicrous to believe that at the same meeting where Elizabeth Warren told me she was going to run for president, I would tell her that stuff about this Princess movie and french fries and these things," he said.

In her statement, Warren said, "I have no interest in discussing this private meeting any further because Bernie and I agree more than we disagree. We have been friends and allies in this fight for a long time, and I have no doubt we will continue to work together to defeat Donald Trump and put our government on the side of the people." She then added, "Also, he told me he hates babies

[JBB]

Bernie Sanders Once Compared Vermont Workers to Black ‘Slaves’

In recent weeks, Sen. Bernie Sanders has criticized his rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination for having too much “baggage” to win the diverse coalition needed to defeat President Donald Trump in November. But as the Vermont independent tops national polls for the first time, newly unearthed baggage from his own decades-long political career could call his own past statements and judgment into question.

As the leading member of a self-described “radical political party” in the 1970s, Sanders repeatedly compared Vermont workers to enslaved black people, according to archival interviews obtained by The Daily Beast. In one 1976 conversation, Sanders told a local newspaper that the sale of a privately held mining company by its founders harkened back to “the days of slavery, when black people were sold to different owners without their consent,” and compared the service economy to chattel slavery.

“Basically, today, Vermont workers remain slaves in many, many ways,” Sanders said in another interview in 1977, in which he compared the burgeoning service industry in the nearly all-white state to the enslavement of African-Americans at the nation’s founding. “The problem comes when we end up with an entire state of people trained to wait on other people.”

[Ivytalk]

I recommend Tim Murphy’s provocative article in the November-December 2019 issue of Mother Jones on Joe Biden’s extensive ties to the credit card banking industry. The title, appropriately enough, is “House of Cards.” It’s old news to a large extent, but it bears reading whenever The Mouth That Bored proclaims himself the savior of the American middle class.

[93henfan]

I recommend Tim Murphy’s provocative article in the November-December 2019 issue of Mother Jones on Joe Biden’s extensive ties to the credit card banking industry. The title, appropriately enough, is “House of Cards.” It’s old news to a large extent, but it bears reading whenever The Mouth That Bored proclaims himself the savior of the American middle class.

True dat. Joe has a monogramed bath robe. It says M.B.N.A.

[Ibanez]

I recommend Tim Murphy’s provocative article in the November-December 2019 issue of Mother Jones on Joe Biden’s extensive ties to the credit card banking industry. The title, appropriately enough, is “House of Cards.” It’s old news to a large extent, but it bears reading whenever The Mouth That Bored proclaims himself the savior of the American middle class.

Are you telling me that Biden is in bed with PCI?

[Ivytalk]

I recommend Tim Murphy’s provocative article in the November-December 2019 issue of Mother Jones on Joe Biden’s extensive ties to the credit card banking industry. The title, appropriately enough, is “House of Cards.” It’s old news to a large extent, but it bears reading whenever The Mouth That Bored proclaims himself the savior of the American middle class.

True dat. Joe has a monogramed bath robe. It says M.B.N.A.

Which stands for: “Money Buys Nearly Anything.”

[kalm]

I recommend Tim Murphy’s provocative article in the November-December 2019 issue of Mother Jones on Joe Biden’s extensive ties to the credit card banking industry. The title, appropriately enough, is “House of Cards.” It’s old news to a large extent, but it bears reading whenever The Mouth That Bored proclaims himself the savior of the American middle class.

True dat. Joe has a monogramed bath robe. It says M.B.N.A.

Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act.



Here...let me fix the problem I helped create...

In the lead up to the 2005 bankruptcy act, Biden tried to justify his support for the legislation by pointing to abuse of the bankruptcy system by people who should at least pay back some of their debts. By requiring better-off borrowers to repay what they could afford, private lenders would be able to reduce their interest rates to the benefit of all consumers.

Neither claim was born out by events. Later reviews found that the level of abuse in the student loan system was relatively insignificant; nor did the removal of bankruptcy protections from private student loans lower interest rates.

“The evidence is not there – making bankruptcy laws more protective of lenders did not lead to more access and cheaper credit,” Jacoby said.

What the 2005 act did do was to herald an explosion in private student loans. Lenders, confident in the knowledge that it would be much more difficult in future for debts to be discharged, opened their arms wide to new borrowers.

Today, the total of outstanding private student loans stands at $123bn. That is only about 8% of the overall $1.5tn debt mountain, but it is responsible for much of the human suffering with the average private student loan debt amounting to almost $14,000 a person

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... 5-act-2020

[CID1990]

Hillary: 'Sanders Would Be More Likable If He'd Just Have The People Who Don't Like Him Assassinated'

U.S.—Hillary Clinton had some helpful advice for the Bernie Sanders campaign after she claimed nobody likes him.


In a candid moment, she told the interviewer that if she were running the Sanders campaign, the vocal critics would find themselves "swimming with the fishes."

"Look, if you want to be likable in politics, you've got to be willing to fight for it, and maybe kill for it," she said. "The absolute number of people that like Bernie may not go up, but the percentage of surviving people who like him will increase. And the people who still don't like him wouldn't want to say anything. The best kind of likability is the kind that comes when people are too afraid to speak up against you."

"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me," she added.

Many political commentators quickly condemned her remarks but have since turned up dead.

Moderator Kitteh please deal with this cunt-tastic dickpiece


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[93henfan]

True dat. Joe has a monogramed bath robe. It says M.B.N.A.

Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act.



Here...let me fix the problem I helped create...

In the lead up to the 2005 bankruptcy act, Biden tried to justify his support for the legislation by pointing to abuse of the bankruptcy system by people who should at least pay back some of their debts. By requiring better-off borrowers to repay what they could afford, private lenders would be able to reduce their interest rates to the benefit of all consumers.

Neither claim was born out by events. Later reviews found that the level of abuse in the student loan system was relatively insignificant; nor did the removal of bankruptcy protections from private student loans lower interest rates.

“The evidence is not there – making bankruptcy laws more protective of lenders did not lead to more access and cheaper credit,” Jacoby said.

What the 2005 act did do was to herald an explosion in private student loans. Lenders, confident in the knowledge that it would be much more difficult in future for debts to be discharged, opened their arms wide to new borrowers.

Today, the total of outstanding private student loans stands at $123bn. That is only about 8% of the overall $1.5tn debt mountain, but it is responsible for much of the human suffering with the average private student loan debt amounting to almost $14,000 a person

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... 5-act-2020

I was led to believe that there would be no malarkey if I were to support Biden, but this reeks of malarkey!

Crap!! Who will I voted for now? Is Bernie malarkey-free? I'm sick of being lied to!!!

[UNI88]

Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act.



Here...let me fix the problem I helped create...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... 5-act-2020

I was led to believe that there would be no malarkey if I were to support Biden, but this reeks of malarkey!

Crap!! Who will I voted for now? Is Bernie malarkey-free? I'm sick of being lied to!!!

Move to Pennsyltucky and vote for Ganny!

[93henfan]

I was led to believe that there would be no malarkey if I were to support Biden, but this reeks of malarkey!

Crap!! Who will I voted for now? Is Bernie malarkey-free? I'm sick of being lied to!!!

Move to Pennsyltucky and vote for Ganny!

He never commits to anything. I prefer malarkey to inaction and general wordiness. Give me some sharp malarkey and I get excited!

[Ibanez]

I want my free shit. I want my free healthcare. I want my student loans forgiven. I want my $1000/mo universal income. Wait..is that per family or per adult? Give me my free shit! I earned it! We're collecting record amounts...GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!!!!

[Ibanez]

Move to Pennsyltucky and vote for Ganny!

He never commits to anything. I prefer malarkey to inaction and general wordiness. Give me some sharp malarkey and I get excited!

I want no nonsense, straight talk.

[HI54UNI]

Voter Challenges Warren's Student Loan Forgiveness Plan: "Those Of Us Who Did The Right Thing Get Screwed?"

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... rewed.html

More people need to start doing this.

[GannonFan]

Move to Pennsyltucky and vote for Ganny!

He never commits to anything. I prefer malarkey to inaction and general wordiness. Give me some sharp malarkey and I get excited!

Nonsense, I'm a straight to the issue Township Auditor, so I already have public office experience. And I commit to things just fine, heck, people who know me complain that I don't change my opinion often enough. As for the wordiness, well, I stand by that and own that entirely. No need for a pithy rejoinder when a multi-paragraph thrashing can do. I blame my insanely fast typing skills. If I was a female in the 1950's I'd be at the top of the secretarial pool!

[kalm]

Voter Challenges Warren's Student Loan Forgiveness Plan: "Those Of Us Who Did The Right Thing Get Screwed?"

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... rewed.html

More people need to start doing this.

Fair argument. Just let me know when Iowa farmers want to pay off their corn subsidies and he wants to lash out at Wall Street and big oil.

[93henfan]

Voter Challenges Warren's Student Loan Forgiveness Plan: "Those Of Us Who Did The Right Thing Get Screwed?"

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... rewed.html

More people need to start doing this.

That's awesome. Logic makes Democrats' heads explode.

[Ivytalk]

He never commits to anything. I prefer malarkey to inaction and general wordiness. Give me some sharp malarkey and I get excited!

Nonsense, I'm a straight to the issue Township Auditor, so I already have public office experience. And I commit to things just fine, heck, people who know me complain that I don't change my opinion often enough. As for the wordiness, well, I stand by that and own that entirely. No need for a pithy rejoinder when a multi-paragraph thrashing can do. I blame my insanely fast typing skills. If I was a female in the 1950's I'd be at the top of the secretarial pool!

That last sentence opens up a lot of possibilities that I’d just as soon ignore!

[GannonFan]

Nonsense, I'm a straight to the issue Township Auditor, so I already have public office experience. And I commit to things just fine, heck, people who know me complain that I don't change my opinion often enough. As for the wordiness, well, I stand by that and own that entirely. No need for a pithy rejoinder when a multi-paragraph thrashing can do. I blame my insanely fast typing skills. If I was a female in the 1950's I'd be at the top of the secretarial pool!

That last sentence opens up a lot of possibilities that I’d just as soon ignore!

Nonsense. My pronouns are he/him/his/his/himself.

[AZGrizFan]

Voter Challenges Warren's Student Loan Forgiveness Plan: "Those Of Us Who Did The Right Thing Get Screwed?"

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... rewed.html

More people need to start doing this.

Fair argument. Just let me know when Iowa farmers want to pay off their corn subsidies and he wants to lash out at Wall Street and big oil.

What ridiculous comparisons.

[kalm]

Fair argument. Just let me know when Iowa farmers want to pay off their corn subsidies and he wants to lash out at Wall Street and big oil.

What ridiculous comparisons.

Hey let me know if you need further explanation. I’m here for you, Z!

[∞∞∞]

Voter Challenges Warren's Student Loan Forgiveness Plan: "Those Of Us Who Did The Right Thing Get Screwed?"

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... rewed.html

More people need to start doing this.

Disagree. I've paid most of my loans off, but just 'cause we got the short end of the stick, it doesn't mean future or current grads must reach the same conclusion. The whole point is to better society.

I hope all kids today aren't burdened with future student loans, and they'll be able to put the money saved back into the economy, stocks, charities, retirement, homes, etc.

An educated population has the best ROI of anything a society can invest into.

[GannonFan]

I hope all kids today aren't burdened with future student loans, and they'll be able to put the money saved back into the economy, stocks, charities, retirement, pleasure, or whatever they desire.

An educated population has the best ROI of anything a society can invest into.

Well, it is into the economy no matter what we do. Currently it's going to lenders and the colleges and then it goes to wherever they spend it.

As for the ROI, I don't doubt that an educated populace is a good thing and something we should pursue, but the question will of course be whether those extra 2-4 years in a college are truly making most of those folks any more educated. Not all degrees are created equal. Exactly how much do we have to pay for this supposed benefit and is a good ROI?

[AZGrizFan]

What ridiculous comparisons.

Hey let me know if you need further explanation. I’m here for you, Z!

Yeah, I'm sure you are. Please, oh wise one, explain to me how student loans are like government subsidies.

[AZGrizFan]

I hope all kids today aren't burdened with future student loans, and they'll be able to put the money saved back into the economy, stocks, charities, retirement, pleasure, or whatever they desire.

An educated population has the best ROI of anything a society can invest into.

You obviously have ZERO clue how the student loan program works in this country.

Are you prepared for another $1.5 Trillion bailout?