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Re: 2020 Democratic Nomination Process Mega-thread

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kalm wrote:Now that he’s surging in the polls, Operation Kill Bernie is in full affect. Hit pieces from across the Dem establishment spectrum like Jonathan Chaite in NYM. anyone remotely complimentary will also be targeted like this here...

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The outrage over the Joe Rogan "endorsement" should be all anyone needs to see to know they are totally butthurt about the Bernie surge.

Also interesting to note that the Never Trumpers are probably just as butthurt as corporate Dems. :lol:
VERY true! :thumb:

Fucking centrists... :ohno:
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kalm wrote:
SDHornet wrote: :nod:

The outrage over the Joe Rogan "endorsement" should be all anyone needs to see to know they are totally butthurt about the Bernie surge.

Also interesting to note that the Never Trumpers are probably just as butthurt as corporate Dems. :lol:
VERY true! :thumb:

Fucking centrists... :ohno:
Never Trumpers are a lock for Biden, but the NT's will never vote for a commie like Sanders.

And my money is still on Biden pulling out the nominee. DNC will stack the convention with corporate delegates no doubt. And I think Biden will clean house in the southern states.
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SDHornet wrote:And my money is still on Biden pulling out the nominee. DNC will stack the convention with corporate delegates no doubt. And I think Biden will clean house in the southern states.
Biden can't hide in the bushes on a 1 v 1 contest. His performance at the debates so far can't be classified as anything but self-defense. He's doing everything he can to run on his name without ever having to say anything.
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89Hen wrote:
SDHornet wrote:And my money is still on Biden pulling out the nominee. DNC will stack the convention with corporate delegates no doubt. And I think Biden will clean house in the southern states.
Biden can't hide in the bushes on a 1 v 1 contest. His performance at the debates so far can't be classified as anything but self-defense. He's doing everything he can to run on his name without ever having to say anything.
Agree, but everyone else is so far left I just don't see your average donk going commie. I could be wrong.
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89Hen wrote: Biden can't hide in the bushes on a 1 v 1 contest. His performance at the debates so far can't be classified as anything but self-defense. He's doing everything he can to run on his name without ever having to say anything.
Agree, but everyone else is so far left I just don't see your average donk going commie. I could be wrong.
Shoot, you meant cleaning up in the south in the primaries?
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89Hen wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Agree, but everyone else is so far left I just don't see your average donk going commie. I could be wrong.
Shoot, you meant cleaning up in the south in the primaries?
Yes primaries, not the general. Trump has the "Bible Belt" on lock.
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89Hen wrote: Shoot, you meant cleaning up in the south in the primaries?
Yes primaries, not the general. Trump has the "Bible Belt" on lock.
My bad. When you said it after the convention part, I thought you were saying in the general.
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89Hen wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Yes primaries, not the general. Trump has the "Bible Belt" on lock.
My bad. When you said it after the convention part, I thought you were saying in the general.
My bad. No I think Biden pulls out the nomination by dominating the primaries int he south. That's when Bernie will be exposed and the DNC and its corporate shills will really pounce.
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SDHornet wrote:
89Hen wrote: Biden can't hide in the bushes on a 1 v 1 contest. His performance at the debates so far can't be classified as anything but self-defense. He's doing everything he can to run on his name without ever having to say anything.
Agree, but everyone else is so far left I just don't see your average donk going commie. I could be wrong.
Again...where is the middle? Warren is a former Republican and has now dumped Medicare for all. Klobuchar and Booty are clearly centrists. Who the fuck knows where Yang sits (and I truly mean that as a compliment). I’ll grant you Bernie is strongly to the left according to certain perspectives but a majority of voters agree with him on universal care, finance reform, taxing the rich and corporations, saving entitlements, etc. College tuition is the one true area he might be significantly to the left of average Americans on.

Populism wins elections whether it’s fake populism like Trumps or real.

There’s left of what monied interests and corporate media want and preach and then there’s left of what voters want. They’re not the same. No one seems to remember that at one time, candidate Trump was for universal healthcare as well. :lol:
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kalm wrote:Again...where is the middle?
In the primary trash can.
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kalm wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Agree, but everyone else is so far left I just don't see your average donk going commie. I could be wrong.
Again...where is the middle? Warren is a former Republican and has now dumped Medicare for all. Klobuchar and Booty are clearly centrists. Who the fuck knows where Yang sits (and I truly mean that as a compliment). I’ll grant you Bernie is strongly to the left according to certain perspectives but a majority of voters agree with him on universal care, finance reform, taxing the rich and corporations, saving entitlements, etc. College tuition is the one true area he might be significantly to the left of average Americans on.

Populism wins elections whether it’s fake populism like Trumps or real.

There’s left of what monied interests and corporate media want and preach and then there’s left of what voters want. They’re not the same. No one seems to remember that at one time, candidate Trump was for universal healthcare as well. :lol:
Warren is basically hillary with a Bernie mask on. And she's just as unlikable as hillary. She's done.

I don't know much about Klobuchar and Booty other than him being gay and Klob being female.

Agree with you about the populism.
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SDHornet wrote:I don't know much about Klobuchar and Booty other than him being gay and Klob being female.
So you know they both like

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SDHornet wrote: Agree, but everyone else is so far left I just don't see your average donk going commie. I could be wrong.
Again...where is the middle? Warren is a former Republican and has now dumped Medicare for all. Klobuchar and Booty are clearly centrists. Who the fuck knows where Yang sits (and I truly mean that as a compliment). I’ll grant you Bernie is strongly to the left according to certain perspectives but a majority of voters agree with him on universal care, finance reform, taxing the rich and corporations, saving entitlements, etc. College tuition is the one true area he might be significantly to the left of average Americans on.

Populism wins elections whether it’s fake populism like Trumps or real.

There’s left of what monied interests and corporate media want and preach and then there’s left of what voters want. They’re not the same. No one seems to remember that at one time, candidate Trump was for universal healthcare as well. :lol:
How are you defining "middle"? Just because a small majority of people may support one policy over another doesn't make that "the middle". If you support universal healthcare, that's LEFT. If you support universal basic income, that's LEFT. If you support free college tuition, that's LEFT. If a majority support those positions, fine. But it doesn't make it the "middle".
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AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Again...where is the middle? Warren is a former Republican and has now dumped Medicare for all. Klobuchar and Booty are clearly centrists. Who the fuck knows where Yang sits (and I truly mean that as a compliment). I’ll grant you Bernie is strongly to the left according to certain perspectives but a majority of voters agree with him on universal care, finance reform, taxing the rich and corporations, saving entitlements, etc. College tuition is the one true area he might be significantly to the left of average Americans on.

Populism wins elections whether it’s fake populism like Trumps or real.

There’s left of what monied interests and corporate media want and preach and then there’s left of what voters want. They’re not the same. No one seems to remember that at one time, candidate Trump was for universal healthcare as well. :lol:
How are you defining "middle"? Just because a small majority of people may support one policy over another doesn't make that "the middle". If you support universal healthcare, that's LEFT. If you support universal basic income, that's LEFT. If you support free college tuition, that's LEFT. If a majority support those positions, fine. But it doesn't make it the "middle".
Ummm...

What?

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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
How are you defining "middle"? Just because a small majority of people may support one policy over another doesn't make that "the middle". If you support universal healthcare, that's LEFT. If you support universal basic income, that's LEFT. If you support free college tuition, that's LEFT. If a majority support those positions, fine. But it doesn't make it the "middle".
Ummm...

What?

:lol:
It's a political spectrum, not a popularity spectrum.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Ummm...

What?

:lol:
It's a political spectrum, not a popularity spectrum.
:lol:

No but seriously, what?
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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
It's a political spectrum, not a popularity spectrum.
:lol:

No but seriously, what?
I didn't expect you to understand.

Too nuanced. :coffee: :coffee:
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Its problem is that it lacks nuance.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
:lol:

No but seriously, what?
I didn't expect you to understand.

Too nuanced. :coffee: :coffee:
You’re probably right. This level of nuance is 2nd level!
How are you defining "middle"? Just because a small majority of people may support one policy over another doesn't make that "the middle". If you support universal healthcare, that's LEFT. If you support universal basic income, that's LEFT. If you support free college tuition, that's LEFT. If a majority support those positions, fine. But it doesn't make it the "middle".
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HI54UNI wrote:Classic clips about Lyin Joe
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Politically it’s devastating. yet here he stands.
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HI54UNI wrote:Classic clips about Lyin Joe
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Que JSO to claim those lies aren't that big of a deal.

Oh and at least this time around his brain is too far gone to remember any speeches by other folks, so I guess we don't have to worry about that this time around. :rofl:
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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
I didn't expect you to understand.

Too nuanced. :coffee: :coffee:
You’re probably right. This level of nuance is 2nd level!
How are you defining "middle"? Just because a small majority of people may support one policy over another doesn't make that "the middle". If you support universal healthcare, that's LEFT. If you support universal basic income, that's LEFT. If you support free college tuition, that's LEFT. If a majority support those positions, fine. But it doesn't make it the "middle".
:lol:
Yep. Just listen to ol' AZ....he's the expert here. :coffee: :coffee:
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SDHornet wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:Classic clips about Lyin Joe
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Que JSO to claim those lies aren't that big of a deal.

Oh and at least this time around his brain is too far gone to remember any speeches by other folks, so I guess we don't have to worry about that this time around. :rofl:
The ironic part is that if that was TRUMP doing that, it'd be plastered all over mainstream media on a nightly basis. It'd be in every Dem's political ads...you couldn't get away from it. But since it's sleepy Joe, it's but a mere blip on the radar screen. :coffee: :coffee: :suspicious:
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