Poll: After The Virus?

[GannonFan]

Probably not, because if we don't slow the spread, then you will see a worse collapse in the long run.

Every time I see this argument in favor of shutting down the economy, I think of that scene in the Big Short when the college dudes are cheering their big windfall and Brad Pitt's character goes into a rant about how many peoples lives are ruined by 1% increase in unemployment. At a certain point people are just going to have to go back to work.

You'll see the real push for this come in May and June - we can probably stomach this many people being out of work for a month, maybe two, but things will get real dire after that. People see the cuteness of the stay at home thing with fun social media posts about how people are spending their days and making fun TicTok videos and celebrities posting look at us blurbs, but the reality is that working people (contractors, retail folks, hairdressers, waiters, etc) are already feeling the pinch on paying bills and getting food and just the basics. Even if they come back with social distancing and masks on everyone and other stipulations that would be workable and would go a long way to avoiding this sink into a depression. There's still going to be the question of how to protect the elderly and the otherwise at risk folks until we get to a vaccine, so there may be enforced quarantines of those folks. Lots of civil liberty discussions on the horizon.

[CID1990]

Every time I see this argument in favor of shutting down the economy, I think of that scene in the Big Short when the college dudes are cheering their big windfall and Brad Pitt's character goes into a rant about how many peoples lives are ruined by 1% increase in unemployment. At a certain point people are just going to have to go back to work.

You'll see the real push for this come in May and June - we can probably stomach this many people being out of work for a month, maybe two, but things will get real dire after that. People see the cuteness of the stay at home thing with fun social media posts about how people are spending their days and making fun TicTok videos and celebrities posting look at us blurbs, but the reality is that working people (contractors, retail folks, hairdressers, waiters, etc) are already feeling the pinch on paying bills and getting food and just the basics. Even if they come back with social distancing and masks on everyone and other stipulations that would be workable and would go a long way to avoiding this sink into a depression. There's still going to be the question of how to protect the elderly and the otherwise at risk folks until we get to a vaccine, so there may be enforced quarantines of those folks. Lots of civil liberty discussions on the horizon.

Yep

I was talking with a colleague a couple days ago about how this is going to get very ugly

And we will soon see who is actually averse to pushing grandma off a cliff in her wheelchair

Get the popcorn (and the recording devices) ready

[89Hen]

She does have a "contract" but AFAIK it's at will, and I've always been under the impression that at will meant you could quit or be fired. The one thing I did make sure she let them know was that they DID owe her some pay because she's on the 12 month plan instead of 10. I knew she wouldn't save the money for the summer months (but she has a summer job). By my calculation they owe her about $4600 for being on the slow pay.

I would check on that contract closely. Our teachers are at will but it basically means they can't be fired or laid off during the school year without cause. State law requires us to tell a teacher by mid April if they aren't going to be renewed for the next year so they can look for a job for the next school year. You'd think out in liberal land where you are there would be even more protection for teachers.

Does she have a union or teacher association or other type of collective bargaining?

Doubtful. She is an an Archdiocese school, so my guess is they are very different than public. She was already planning on going to one of the public systems next year. She has an open offer from my county in MD and she hopes to have an offer from the Virginia one across the creek.

[89Hen]

BTW, why was there no option on the vote for business being better because of the virus?

[HI54UNI]

I would check on that contract closely. Our teachers are at will but it basically means they can't be fired or laid off during the school year without cause. State law requires us to tell a teacher by mid April if they aren't going to be renewed for the next year so they can look for a job for the next school year. You'd think out in liberal land where you are there would be even more protection for teachers.

Does she have a union or teacher association or other type of collective bargaining?

Doubtful. She is an an Archdiocese school, so my guess is they are very different than public. She was already planning on going to one of the public systems next year. She has an open offer from my county in MD and she hopes to have an offer from the Virginia one across the creek.

That makes sense. Glad to hear that she has options for next year.

I can probably find her a job if she wants to move to rural Iowa.

[Winterborn]

Doubtful. She is an an Archdiocese school, so my guess is they are very different than public. She was already planning on going to one of the public systems next year. She has an open offer from my county in MD and she hopes to have an offer from the Virginia one across the creek.

That makes sense. Glad to hear that she has options for next year.

I can probably find her a job if she wants to move to rural Iowa.

ND is looking for teachers.

[UNI88]

That makes sense. Glad to hear that she has options for next year.

I can probably find her a job if she wants to move to rural Iowa.

ND is looking for teachers who are good with the 3 R's and can edumacate the younguns.

FYP

[SDHornet]

BTW, why was there no option on the vote for business being better because of the virus?

By better you mean realizing they hire more people than they need? How is that going to help unemployment?

[SDHornet]

Every time I see this argument in favor of shutting down the economy, I think of that scene in the Big Short when the college dudes are cheering their big windfall and Brad Pitt's character goes into a rant about how many peoples lives are ruined by 1% increase in unemployment. At a certain point people are just going to have to go back to work.

You'll see the real push for this come in May and June - we can probably stomach this many people being out of work for a month, maybe two, but things will get real dire after that. People see the cuteness of the stay at home thing with fun social media posts about how people are spending their days and making fun TicTok videos and celebrities posting look at us blurbs, but the reality is that working people (contractors, retail folks, hairdressers, waiters, etc) are already feeling the pinch on paying bills and getting food and just the basics. Even if they come back with social distancing and masks on everyone and other stipulations that would be workable and would go a long way to avoiding this sink into a depression. There's still going to be the question of how to protect the elderly and the otherwise at risk folks until we get to a vaccine, so there may be enforced quarantines of those folks. Lots of civil liberty discussions on the horizon.

This. But also with all the "essential" jobs, there is still a lot of people running around on a daily basis which defeats the purpose of the lockdown. I'm starting to lean more in the camp of this Chinese Flu running through the populace at some point, so may as well get it over with. A vaccine is a far way off and I'm not seeing a way around a large majority of people coming down with this virus at one point (current lockdown) or another (post lockdown).

Yeah yeah flatten the curve and all that.

[89Hen]

BTW, why was there no option on the vote for business being better because of the virus?

By better you mean realizing they hire more people than they need? How is that going to help unemployment?

This thread was about us personally.

[Winterborn]

ND is looking for teachers who are good with the 3 R's and can edumacate the younguns.

FYP

You forgot one "R". It is Reading, 'Riting, 'Rithmitic, and 'Renching (wrenching aka shop class).

[UNI88]

FYP

You forgot one "R". It is Reading, 'Riting, 'Rithmitic, and 'Renching (wrenching aka shop class).

Oops, good catch.

What is that "g" on the end of those words?

[Winterborn]

You forgot one "R". It is Reading, 'Riting, 'Rithmitic, and 'Renching (wrenching aka shop class).

Oops, good catch.

What is that "g" on the end of those words?

Us Southern Canadians keep the "g". Only people from waaaaay down South take that off. I think the line is somewhere around Missouri the "g" starts dropping off and by the time you hit Mississippi they are only using the middle letters words.

[CAA Flagship]

Oops, good catch.

What is that "g" on the end of those words?

Us Southern Canadians keep the "g". Only people from waaaaay down South take that off. I think the line is somewhere around Missouri the "g" starts dropping off and by the time you hit Mississippi they are only using the middle letters words.

Yes. In Missouri, we put the "g" in g-string.

[AZGrizFan]

You'll see the real push for this come in May and June - we can probably stomach this many people being out of work for a month, maybe two, but things will get real dire after that. People see the cuteness of the stay at home thing with fun social media posts about how people are spending their days and making fun TicTok videos and celebrities posting look at us blurbs, but the reality is that working people (contractors, retail folks, hairdressers, waiters, etc) are already feeling the pinch on paying bills and getting food and just the basics. Even if they come back with social distancing and masks on everyone and other stipulations that would be workable and would go a long way to avoiding this sink into a depression. There's still going to be the question of how to protect the elderly and the otherwise at risk folks until we get to a vaccine, so there may be enforced quarantines of those folks. Lots of civil liberty discussions on the horizon.

Yep

I was talking with a colleague a couple days ago about how this is going to get very ugly

And we will soon see who is actually averse to pushing grandma off a cliff in her wheelchair

Get the popcorn (and the recording devices) ready

Been my point all along. We’re going to get there eventually, so why not just skip all the pain and misery and just skip to the end NOW?

[Winterborn]

Us Southern Canadians keep the "g". Only people from waaaaay down South take that off. I think the line is somewhere around Missouri the "g" starts dropping off and by the time you hit Mississippi they are only using the middle letters words.

Yes. In Missouri, we put the "g" in g-string.

Maybe in northern Missouri/Saint Louis but the area of the Ozarks I was in, there was no "g" being used.

I half expected to hear banjos at any moment......

[UNI88]

Yes. In Missouri, we put the "g" in g-string.

Maybe in northern Missouri/Saint Louis but the area of the Ozarks I was in, there was no "g" being used.

I half expected to hear banjos at any moment......

You were unconscious when there were playing ...

[Winterborn]

Maybe in northern Missouri/Saint Louis but the area of the Ozarks I was in, there was no "g" being used.

I half expected to hear banjos at any moment......

You were unconscious when there were playing ...

Well I was way off the beaten path and now I don't listen to as much bluegrass music as I used to. So you might be on to something.

[Ibanez]

Oops, good catch.

What is that "g" on the end of those words?

Us Southern Canadians keep the "g". Only people from waaaaay down South take that off. I think the line is somewhere around Missouri the "g" starts dropping off and by the time you hit Mississippi they are only using the middle letters words.

Gs and Rs are having a renaissance in the American South. I assume it's from the influx of Yankees and Ohioans(sp?).

[Ibanez]

Us Southern Canadians keep the "g". Only people from waaaaay down South take that off. I think the line is somewhere around Missouri the "g" starts dropping off and by the time you hit Mississippi they are only using the middle letters words.

Yes. In Missouri, we put the "g" in g-string.

And in New Jersey, you put the "g" in garotte.

[CAA Flagship]

Yes. In Missouri, we put the "g" in g-string.

And in New Jersey, you put the "g" in garotte.

Garlic

[BDKJMU]

Us Southern Canadians keep the "g". Only people from waaaaay down South take that off. I think the line is somewhere around Missouri the "g" starts dropping off and by the time you hit Mississippi they are only using the middle letters words.

Gs and Rs are having a renaissance in the American South. I assume it's from the influx of Yankees and Ohioans(sp?).

Sure maybe in the greater metro areas of Charlotte, the NC tri cities, Greenville, Atlanta, Charleston, large chunk of FL, etc. But I doubt it for the smaller cities, towns, rural areas..