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UNI88 wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:43 am
Professor Chaos wrote: 6) According to them asymptomatic spreaders are spreading a less virulent form of COVID therefore are not as dangerous as a symptomatic spreader.
This sort of answers one of my recent questions about whether there are various intensities of the virus.
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CAA Flagship wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:29 am
UNI88 wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:43 am
This sort of answers one of my recent questions about whether there are various intensities of the virus.
There are reports of the closer and more direct the contact the greater the severity.
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kalm wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:26 am
CAA Flagship wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:29 am
This sort of answers one of my recent questions about whether there are various intensities of the virus.
There are reports of the closer and more direct the contact the greater the severity.
:suspicious: Does the snotlet lose strength with each airborne foot? I need to see a chart on that. I'll bet it's exponential if true.
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CAA Flagship wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 am
kalm wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:26 am
There are reports of the closer and more direct the contact the greater the severity.
:suspicious: Does the snotlet lose strength with each airborne foot? I need to see a chart on that. I'll bet it's exponential if true.
I'm pretty sure it would be logarithmic, not exponential. :D
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 10:20 am
CAA Flagship wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 am

:suspicious: Does the snotlet lose strength with each airborne foot? I need to see a chart on that. I'll bet it's exponential if true.
I'm pretty sure it would be logarithmic, not exponential. :D
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Saw a headline saying folks in SoCal are slamming the beaches with a heatwave that is hitting the area. :clap:
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kalm wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:26 am
CAA Flagship wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:29 am
This sort of answers one of my recent questions about whether there are various intensities of the virus.
There are reports of the closer and more direct the contact the greater the severity.
So the more severe you get it, the more severe it is. Odd.
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CAA Flagship wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 am
kalm wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:26 am

There are reports of the closer and more direct the contact the greater the severity.
:suspicious: Does the snotlet lose strength with each airborne foot? I need to see a chart on that. I'll bet it's exponential if true.
if'n its anything like flu tests they can increase the amount of the dose they give you
When they test humans they give them typically 3 sizes of flu doses as test cases

the small dose is frequently battled by the test subject and they do not always get sick
the middle dose is a guaranteed hit but the body can reduce the symptoms
and the big slug is the doozy

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https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/0 ... /24113311/

Local story for me. Also, I may be related to this person since my mother's maiden name was Spell.

I have to got with the position that government should not be doing this. Government should not be able to force a Church Congregation to suspend Church services.

At the same time: This is why the Conservative movement and the Republican Party are losing support among reasonably educated people.

No sane person would want people like this controlling the future of the United States. And it is more and more people like this that the Republican Party is depending upon to get it elected.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:35 pm https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/0 ... /24113311/

Local story for me. Also, I may be related to this person since my mother's maiden name was Spell.

I have to got with the position that government should not be doing this. Government should not be able to force a Church Congregation to suspend Church services.

At the same time: This is why the Conservative movement and the Republican Party are losing support among reasonably educated people.

No sane person would want people like this controlling the future of the United States. And it is more and more people like this that the Republican Party is depending upon to get it elected.
Are you aware that Louisiana now has a Democrat Governor issuing all these orders? :dunce:

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Re: Coronavirus

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89Hen wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:15 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:26 am

There are reports of the closer and more direct the contact the greater the severity.
So the more severe you get it, the more severe it is. Odd.
It might be an explanation for why certain healthy and/or under 50 people get hammered by it. Asymptomatic or less severe symptoms may come from exposure to a small amount of droplets and disease cells versus having someone sneeze into your mouth, smart ass. :lol:
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SDHornet wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:42 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 10:20 am

I'm pretty sure it would be logarithmic, not exponential. :D
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Colorado is starting to open back up today, and by Friday (GASP) beauty salons and barber shops will be able to open to the public. Does anyone want to guess how differently the media will treat (or is treating) the Donk governor of Colorado in comparison the the Conk governor of Georgia? :suspicious:
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Baldy wrote:Colorado is starting to open back up today, and by Friday (GASP) beauty salons and barber shops will be able to open to the public. Does anyone want to guess how differently the media will treat (or is treating) the Donk governor of Colorado in comparison the the Conk governor of Georgia? :suspicious:
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Baldy wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:18 am Colorado is starting to open back up today, and by Friday (GASP) beauty salons and barber shops will be able to open to the public. Does anyone want to guess how differently the media will treat (or is treating) the Donk governor of Colorado in comparison the the Conk governor of Georgia? :suspicious:

I’ve honestly turned off the infotainment networks for the past week. I can’t tell whether they’re worse that Yahoo News and Huffpo with the latter two’s sensationalism..........

Meanwhile the Whitehouse will evidently be pivoting away from the disease scientists and the numbers. Right wing and social media will do everything they can to find doctors and professors who can create a positive open back up message like the two docs from California and the Stanford professor.



“But according to two reports on Sunday, the most publicly known doctors leading the federal COVID-19 response, Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx, will be sidelined in the coming weeks. The White House confirmed to Axios that the two will stay on “but take a back seat to the forward-looking, ‘what’s next’ message.” Meanwhile, an average of over 2,000 Americans died every day in the past week from the coronavirus.


As part of the pivot — which the White House attempted prematurely in the run-up to Easter — the administration will now highlight “success stories” of businesses reopening, emphasize the performance of governors in states ending their shutdowns, and decrease its reliance on health statistics in the briefings, though accurate information has proven to be an effective tool in fighting the spread of the virus. The hi Associated Press reports that the marathon sessions may take a different turn, with the White House considering holding “news briefings in a modified form without Trump.” The president — despite his reported enjoyment of the free-form Q+As — gave his opinion on the matter on Saturday, tweeting they were “not worth the time & effort.”

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I’ve never been a big fan of Azar, who is not a scientist and has close connections to Big Pharma. However, it’s hard to see if there are any “qualified sycophants” out there to succeed him at HHS. The “musical chairs Cabinet” appears set to continue. :ohno:
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kalm wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:57 am
Ivytalk wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:00 am

The key Libertarian principle is “forcible interference” with the rights of others. The libertarian view of the proper role of government in the “right to life” sphere is to limit the initiation of physical force by one person against another. If I exercise my right to go to a place of business, a church, or a park, by definition I’m not interfering in any way with the rights of those who choose to shelter in place. Nor am I interfering with the right of others who are outside, unless I walk up to them and cough in their face. That’s probably “forcible interference.” Merely being in the presence of others in a group larger than ten is not forcible interference.

Capisce?
Yes. It’s reasonable....on paper.

What if the social distancing and stay at home practices are the only known prevention of community spread and the number of cases goes back up as do deaths, prohibiting a person from going to work or even the store or being able to sell their wares at a market?
Governors have already acknolwedged an increase in cases will be seen with re-opening businesses.


SC is reopening and our governor just told everyone to stay home for 2 more weeks b/c the risk is too high. :dunce: :dunce:
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kalm wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:18 pm having someone sneeze into your mouth, smart ass. :lol:
If you let somebody sneeze into your mouth, you deserve a severe case.
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Ibanez wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:33 am
kalm wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:57 am

Yes. It’s reasonable....on paper.

What if the social distancing and stay at home practices are the only known prevention of community spread and the number of cases goes back up as do deaths, prohibiting a person from going to work or even the store or being able to sell their wares at a market?
Governors have already acknolwedged an increase in cases will be seen with re-opening businesses.


SC is reopening and our governor just told everyone to stay home for 2 more weeks b/c the risk is too high. :dunce: :dunce:
I Understand the counter economic argument but I’ve seen zero epidemiologists supporting a quick re-opening without increased testing and better knowledge of reinfection/new outbreaks. Not to mention the politics of becoming one of the first governors to get burned by having to close down again and for a longer period, the 2nd time. Plus see the study on the medium term positive effects of early and longer closure in the economics thread.

I wouldn’t blame any governor for an over abundance of caution at this point.
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kalm wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:46 am I’ve seen zero epidemiologists supporting a quick re-opening without increased testing and better knowledge of reinfection/new outbreaks.
Would you honestly expect different? :suspicious:

This would be like a head greenskeeper voluntarily removing a cart path only rule.
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kalm wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:46 am
Ibanez wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:33 am
Governors have already acknolwedged an increase in cases will be seen with re-opening businesses.


SC is reopening and our governor just told everyone to stay home for 2 more weeks b/c the risk is too high. :dunce: :dunce:
I Understand the counter economic argument but I’ve seen zero epidemiologists supporting a quick re-opening without increased testing and better knowledge of reinfection/new outbreaks. Not to mention the politics of becoming one of the first governors to get burned by having to close down again and for a longer period, the 2nd time. Plus see the study on the medium term positive effects of early and longer closure in the economics thread.

I wouldn’t blame any governor for an over abundance of caution at this point.
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kalm wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:33 am Governors have already acknolwedged an increase in cases will be seen with re-opening businesses.


SC is reopening and our governor just told everyone to stay home for 2 more weeks b/c the risk is too high. :dunce: :dunce:
I Understand the counter economic argument but I’ve seen zero epidemiologists supporting a quick re-opening without increased testing and better knowledge of reinfection/new outbreaks. Not to mention the politics of becoming one of the first governors to get burned by having to close down again and for a longer period, the 2nd time. Plus see the study on the medium term positive effects of early and longer closure in the economics thread.

I wouldn’t blame any governor for an over abundance of caution at this point.
Epidemiologists are supposed to skew towards quarantine

Economists are supposed to skew towards opening up

There likely needs to be a middle ground, and lets face it - people will die

Just blame it on Trump and it’ll be OK

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CID1990 wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:50 am
kalm wrote:
I Understand the counter economic argument but I’ve seen zero epidemiologists supporting a quick re-opening without increased testing and better knowledge of reinfection/new outbreaks. Not to mention the politics of becoming one of the first governors to get burned by having to close down again and for a longer period, the 2nd time. Plus see the study on the medium term positive effects of early and longer closure in the economics thread.

I wouldn’t blame any governor for an over abundance of caution at this point.
Epidemiologists are supposed to skew towards quarantine

Economists are supposed to skew towards opening up

There likely needs to be a middle ground, and lets face it - people will die

Just blame it on Trump and it’ll be OK

Just imagine they drank bleach


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Don’t disagree at all. Just keeping in mind that the sweet spot is more accurate with greater knowledge of the virus. The economy has already taken a hit but we still have tools and thus a little time to avoid a Great Depression if we utilize them.
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CAA Flagship wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 am
kalm wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:26 am

There are reports of the closer and more direct the contact the greater the severity.
:suspicious: Does the snotlet lose strength with each airborne foot? I need to see a chart on that. I'll bet it's exponential if true.
The dosage hets smaller?
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