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Re: Cancel Culture thread

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89Hen wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:12 am I don't think you understand what cancel culture is.
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Re: Cancel Culture thread

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89Hen wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:12 am I don't think you understand what cancel culture is.
So responding to a cancel culture incident by trying to cancel the culture of the organization that initiated the original cancel isn't cancel culture?

Whaaa, they did it first so me doing it back is ok!

A real leader responds to this not by trying to get people to boycott an American company with 10's of thousands of employees but by calling them out for favoring one perspective over another and encouraging them to either not allow any political expressions or to listen to and respect different expressions. But that is difficult and doesn't fire up the base and Trump likes to take the easy way that gets his followers excited.
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Re: Cancel Culture thread

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UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:43 am
89Hen wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:12 am I don't think you understand what cancel culture is.
So responding to a cancel culture incident by trying to cancel the culture of the organization that initiated the original cancel isn't cancel culture?

Whaaa, they did it first so me doing it back is ok!

A real leader responds to this not by trying to get people to boycott an American company with 10's of thousands of employees but by calling them out for favoring one perspective over another and encouraging them to either not allow any political expressions or to listen to and respect different expressions. But that is difficult and doesn't fire up the base and Trump likes to take the easy way that gets his followers excited.
Or actually verifying the truthfulness of the statement in the first place.

If Goodyear bans both Trump and Biden hats/shirts, etc, but allows other social messaging, that is still being equal to both parties. It is no longer a political football, but a corporate culture choice.
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Re: Cancel Culture thread

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UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:43 am
89Hen wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:12 am I don't think you understand what cancel culture is.
So responding to a cancel culture incident by trying to cancel the culture of the organization that initiated the original cancel isn't cancel culture?

Whaaa, they did it first so me doing it back is ok!

A real leader responds to this not by trying to get people to boycott an American company with 10's of thousands of employees but by calling them out for favoring one perspective over another and encouraging them to either not allow any political expressions or to listen to and respect different expressions. But that is difficult and doesn't fire up the base and Trump likes to take the easy way that gets his followers excited.
Trump's extremely unpresidential for calling on people to boycott any American corporation.

But come on, you can't tell me you don't see the difference between a corporation ostensibly discriminating an saying some political expression is all right versus a person losing their job because they retweeted Blue Lives Matter or not being woke in the right way, right? Right?
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Re: Cancel Culture thread

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dbackjon wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:57 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:43 am
So responding to a cancel culture incident by trying to cancel the culture of the organization that initiated the original cancel isn't cancel culture?

Whaaa, they did it first so me doing it back is ok!

A real leader responds to this not by trying to get people to boycott an American company with 10's of thousands of employees but by calling them out for favoring one perspective over another and encouraging them to either not allow any political expressions or to listen to and respect different expressions. But that is difficult and doesn't fire up the base and Trump likes to take the easy way that gets his followers excited.
Or actually verifying the truthfulness of the statement in the first place.

If Goodyear bans both Trump and Biden hats/shirts, etc, but allows other social messaging, that is still being equal to both parties. It is no longer a political football, but a corporate culture choice.
If you allow Black Lives Matter then you also need to allow Blue Lives Matter, All Lives Matter, etc.
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Re: Cancel Culture thread

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Pwns wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:02 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:43 am
So responding to a cancel culture incident by trying to cancel the culture of the organization that initiated the original cancel isn't cancel culture?

Whaaa, they did it first so me doing it back is ok!

A real leader responds to this not by trying to get people to boycott an American company with 10's of thousands of employees but by calling them out for favoring one perspective over another and encouraging them to either not allow any political expressions or to listen to and respect different expressions. But that is difficult and doesn't fire up the base and Trump likes to take the easy way that gets his followers excited.
Trump's extremely unpresidential for calling on people to boycott any American corporation.

But come on, you can't tell me you don't see the difference between a corporation ostensibly discriminating an saying some political expression is all right versus a person losing their job because they retweeted Blue Lives Matter or not being woke in the right way, right? Right?
I think we have a bunch of cry-baby snowflakes on both sides who think that their views are correct who are outraged when someone disagrees with them.
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Re: Cancel Culture thread

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UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:13 am
Pwns wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:02 am

Trump's extremely unpresidential for calling on people to boycott any American corporation.

But come on, you can't tell me you don't see the difference between a corporation ostensibly discriminating an saying some political expression is all right versus a person losing their job because they retweeted Blue Lives Matter or not being woke in the right way, right? Right?
I think we have a bunch of cry-baby snowflakes on both sides who think that their views are correct who are outraged when someone disagrees with them.
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Ivytalk wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:15 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:13 am

I think we have a bunch of cry-baby snowflakes on both sides who think that their views are correct who are outraged when someone disagrees with them.
Your favorite Joni Mitchell song must be “Both Sides Now.” Make it your siggy or something. Jesus.
I love that song, and I'm not even a Joni Mitchell fan. :thumb:

Good cameos for that song in "Love, Actually" as well as "You've Got Mail" - "It's cloud's illusions I recall,I really don't know clouds at all, I mean, what is she, a pilot? It's a metaphor for something but I don't know what it is". :thumb:
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Re: Cancel Culture thread

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Can CS be part of the trend and cancel culture Gorillas in the Mist?
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∞∞∞ wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:54 pm Can CS be part of the trend and cancel culture Gorillas in the Mist?
I would vote for that
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Ivytalk wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:15 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:13 am

I think we have a bunch of cry-baby snowflakes on both sides who think that their views are correct who are outraged when someone disagrees with them.
Your favorite Joni Mitchell song must be “Both Sides Now.” Make it your siggy or something. Jesus.
I think he should update his location to being Fence-Sitter. :thumb:
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Winterborn wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:19 pm
Ivytalk wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:15 pm

Your favorite Joni Mitchell song must be “Both Sides Now.” Make it your siggy or something. Jesus.
I think he should update his location to being Fence-Sitter. :thumb:
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I mean, every other 88 post has a “both sides do it” motif. He’s becoming the JSO of the Insensible Center. 8-)
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Ivytalk wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:35 pm
Winterborn wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:19 pm

I think he should update his location to being Fence-Sitter. :thumb:
:clap: :notworthy:

I mean, every other 88 post has a “both sides do it” motif. He’s becoming the JSO of the Insensible Center. 8-)
At least he is concise. :D
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Winterborn wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:44 pm
Ivytalk wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:35 pm

:clap: :notworthy:

I mean, every other 88 post has a “both sides do it” motif. He’s becoming the JSO of the Insensible Center. 8-)
At least he is concise. :D
Relatively speaking.
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Ivytalk wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:45 pm
Winterborn wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:44 pm

At least he is concise. :D
Relatively speaking.
Well the comparison is JSO to 88. If 88 holds it to under a novel, he has JSO beat.
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Winterborn wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:50 pm
Ivytalk wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:45 pm

Relatively speaking.
Well the comparison is JSO to 88. If 88 holds it to under a novel, he has JSO beat.
True dat. JSO to Ganny would be closer in verbiage.
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Ivytalk wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:51 pm
Winterborn wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:50 pm

Well the comparison is JSO to 88. If 88 holds it to under a novel, he has JSO beat.
True dat. JSO to Ganny would be closer in verbiage.
The horror! The difference, being of course, that I'm far more creative and fun than JSO (and I don't have a weird penchant for young girls or fake blue crabs). And of course, I don't have a rabid fascination with Hillary Clinton. :coffee:
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GannonFan wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:03 pm
Ivytalk wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:51 pm

True dat. JSO to Ganny would be closer in verbiage.
The horror! The difference, being of course, that I'm far more creative and fun than JSO (and I don't have a weird penchant for young girls or fake blue crabs). And of course, I don't have a rabid fascination with Hillary Clinton. :coffee:
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:09 am
dbackjon wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:57 am

Or actually verifying the truthfulness of the statement in the first place.

If Goodyear bans both Trump and Biden hats/shirts, etc, but allows other social messaging, that is still being equal to both parties. It is no longer a political football, but a corporate culture choice.
If you allow Black Lives Matter then you also need to allow Blue Lives Matter, All Lives Matter, etc.
Agreed, 100%.
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Winterborn wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:19 pm
Ivytalk wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:15 pm

Your favorite Joni Mitchell song must be “Both Sides Now.” Make it your siggy or something. Jesus.
I think he should update his location to being Fence-Sitter. :thumb:
How much will you (or anyone else) donate to CS if I do? Put your money where your mouth is suckas! :D
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Ivytalk wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:35 pm
Winterborn wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:19 pm
I think he should update his location to being Fence-Sitter. :thumb:
:clap: :notworthy:

I mean, every other 88 post has a “both sides do it” motif. He’s becoming the JSO of the Insensible Center. 8-)
Am I wrong?
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:43 pm
Ivytalk wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:35 pm

:clap: :notworthy:

I mean, every other 88 post has a “both sides do it” motif. He’s becoming the JSO of the Insensible Center. 8-)
Am I wrong?
Depends on how far left or right the fence is. ;)
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UNI88 wrote:
Winterborn wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:19 pm I think he should update his location to being Fence-Sitter. :thumb:
How much will you (or anyone else) donate to CS if I do? Put your money where your mouth is suckas! :D
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Ibanez wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:01 pm
UNI88 wrote:
How much will you (or anyone else) donate to CS if I do? Put your money where your mouth is suckas! :D
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:14 pm
Ibanez wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:01 pm
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