I believe California will decommission over 3500MW of power generation in the next 5 years. The rolling brown outs are just getting started.Ivytalk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:54 amThat’s right. CA is imploding as we type. Here’s a link to an article that spells out some reasons. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... vUq12EPKEHWinterborn wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:48 am
No need to do anything. Just give them time and they will do it to themselves.
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Ivytalk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:54 amThat’s right. CA is imploding as we type. Here’s a link to an article that spells out some reasons. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... vUq12EPKEHWinterborn wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:48 am
No need to do anything. Just give them time and they will do it to themselves.
As long as they don't decide to go home
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I am not sure Mexico would take them back.houndawg wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:09 pmIvytalk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:54 am
That’s right. CA is imploding as we type. Here’s a link to an article that spells out some reasons. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... vUq12EPKEH
As long as they don't decide to go home
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Re: How Trump Wins
Hunter and Ashley are well-known coke fiends. Ashley was filmed doing blow in 2009 (and complaining that the line was too small) and somebody paid off the filmer to make it go away.Ivytalk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:27 amBiden’s daughter. I hear that they used to call her the “snow queen” at school because, well, you know...GannonFan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:25 am
Agreed. Plus, he's so good at sucking the air out of the room that everything, 24/7, is about him. He's despicable, but you can't stop talking about him. Couple that with the Dems just being an absolute mess right now and you can feel it swinging towards Trump again. I'm already seeing the signs again here in Bucks County, PA (one of the Philly suburbs that tend to decide PA) that it's swinging towards Trump again. The BLM stuff isn't helping the Dems because they picked an old white man who didn't want his kids going to an inner city school (and sent them to a nice, mostly-white private school) and who wrote the Crime Bill that locked up a generation of Black young men, and because Kamala's background in criminal justice isn't going to excite that base. When you don't see either party worth voting for, then your only outlet is to hit the streets. That's what they're doing. Biden can't win without the Black vote.
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Winterborn wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:48 amNo need to do anything. Just give them time and they will do it to themselves.
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Most of their fanilies have been here since CA was part of Mexico. Wrong crowd.
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Sure......
A friendly suggestion, you might want to let the moonshine still clean out a bit more before sampling it.
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I watched the influx first hand growing up back in the day - the trash blew in from the east.Winterborn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:19 amSure......
A friendly suggestion, you might want to let the moonshine still clean out a bit more before sampling it.
Probably before the best of you ran down your dad's leg.
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Michael Moore’s take...lack of enthusiasm for Biden while high pitched fervor for Trump in swing states. Also, Biden won’t be visiting Michigan. Echoes of 2016.
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kalm wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:01 pm Michael Moore’s take...lack of enthusiasm for Biden while high pitched fervor for Trump in swing states. Also, Biden won’t be visiting Michigan. Echoes of 2016.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 16-warning
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Why would you even bother with what that fat cunt thinks?kalm wrote:Michael Moore’s take...lack of enthusiasm for Biden while high pitched fervor for Trump in swing states. Also, Biden won’t be visiting Michigan. Echoes of 2016.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 16-warning
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Well when you have been around since dirt was rocks, that insults describes just about everybody.houndawg wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:28 amI watched the influx first hand growing up back in the day - the trash blew in from the east.Winterborn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:19 am
Sure......
A friendly suggestion, you might want to let the moonshine still clean out a bit more before sampling it.
Probably before the best of you ran down your dad's leg.
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Your tap out is acceptedWinterborn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:24 pmWell when you have been around since dirt was rocks, that insults describes just about everybody.
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Sometimes I think the democrats want to lose.kalm wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:01 pm Michael Moore’s take...lack of enthusiasm for Biden while high pitched fervor for Trump in swing states. Also, Biden won’t be visiting Michigan. Echoes of 2016.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 16-warning
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Meh. He’s been right about somethings including making a similar prediction around the same time in 2016.CID1990 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:10 pmWhy would you even bother with what that fat cunt thinks?kalm wrote:Michael Moore’s take...lack of enthusiasm for Biden while high pitched fervor for Trump in swing states. Also, Biden won’t be visiting Michigan. Echoes of 2016.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 16-warning
Hes a complete choad and he’s lucky the Reaper has been distracted by COVID
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Since 1850, 17.7M of Californian residents have come from Mexico. The next highest is New York and Texas, at 5.3M and 5.1M respectively. Since we were talking generalities, that covers the question at hand.houndawg wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:26 amYour tap out is acceptedWinterborn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:24 pm
Well when you have been around since dirt was rocks, that insults describes just about everybody.
And since you remind me of my late grandfather, I will throw you a bone and say that in the 40's it was Illinois, in the 50's and 60's was Texas , 70's New York. So you're recollections are not wrong prior to 1970, it is just that since then Mexican immigration into California has dwarfed anybody else by several orders of magnitude.
For anybody wanting to look at U.S. migration patterns the University of Washington has a site for their "America's Great Migrations Project" that is fascinating if one wants to delve a bit deeper.
http://depts.washington.edu/moving1/
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again...not when considering the alternative.
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I think Mexicans are a positive addition to the nation - Cobden, IL wouldn't still be here if it weren't for the Mexicans.Winterborn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:34 amSince 1850, 17.7M of Californian residents have come from Mexico. The next highest is New York and Texas, at 5.3M and 5.1M respectively. Since we were talking generalities, that covers the question at hand.
And since you remind me of my late grandfather, I will throw you a bone and say that in the 40's it was Illinois, in the 50's and 60's was Texas , 70's New York. So you're recollections are not wrong prior to 1970, it is just that since then Mexican immigration into California has dwarfed anybody else by several orders of magnitude.
For anybody wanting to look at U.S. migration patterns the University of Washington has a site for their "America's Great Migrations Project" that is fascinating if one wants to delve a bit deeper.
http://depts.washington.edu/moving1/
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Because he was right about '16 before everybody?CID1990 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:10 pmWhy would you even bother with what that fat cunt thinks?kalm wrote:Michael Moore’s take...lack of enthusiasm for Biden while high pitched fervor for Trump in swing states. Also, Biden won’t be visiting Michigan. Echoes of 2016.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 16-warning
Hes a complete choad and he’s lucky the Reaper has been distracted by COVID
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Diabetes has been asleep at the switch with that choad since 2000
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I think it is reasonable to be concerned. However, I also think that 2016 was a situation in which a bunch of people felt that Clinton was a lock. They figured Trump had no chance to win and behaved accordingly. I don't think that's going to happen this time. Doesn't mean Biden is a lock to win. But it's a factor that makes things a little different this time.93henfan wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:18 pmkalm wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:01 pm Michael Moore’s take...lack of enthusiasm for Biden while high pitched fervor for Trump in swing states. Also, Biden won’t be visiting Michigan. Echoes of 2016.
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true dat, but he was ahead of the curve in '16, including the Donald's team, and he's starting to get nervous abou November
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I have to admit, that thought has popped into my head from time to time. The mad rush to nominate Biden to stave off a Bernie nomination may have been the right short term approach but wrong in the long term.houndawg wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:27 amSometimes I think the democrats want to lose.kalm wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:01 pm Michael Moore’s take...lack of enthusiasm for Biden while high pitched fervor for Trump in swing states. Also, Biden won’t be visiting Michigan. Echoes of 2016.
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Said it many times, but this country is ripe for electing a candidate who could combine liberal economic populism with Trump's nativist and nationalist populism. Problem is that's the opposite of what many people who fund campaigns want, so the Donks are stuck with an economic platform that nobody outside of Democratic Underground really likes and trying to pander to the prog left by using wokeness that's going to turn more people off than you win back.
The best historical analogue IMO is 2004 with a lame Democrat nominee who just assumes the Republican incumbent will defeat himself.
The best historical analogue IMO is 2004 with a lame Democrat nominee who just assumes the Republican incumbent will defeat himself.
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