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Re: POTUS Debate #2 10/15, 9 PM ECB

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Ibanez wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:07 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:06 pm

- Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel
Yeah but that was different....Right?

BDK, can we get a ruling how this doesn't apply to Trump?
Trump was willing to do 3 in person debates.

I don’t consider one person in one location, and one person in another (coukd be thousands of miles away) streamed over the internet, a real debate.
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Re: POTUS Debate #2 10/15, 9 PM ECB

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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:31 pm
Ibanez wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:07 pm
Yeah but that was different....Right?

BDK, can we get a ruling how this doesn't apply to Trump?
Trump was willing to do 3 in person debates.

I don’t consider one person in one location, and one person in another (coukd be thousands of miles away) streamed over the internet, a real debate.
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Re: POTUS Debate #2 10/15, 9 PM ECB

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Ibanez wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:24 am
SDHornet wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:43 am Well apparently there was a 2nd debate. I wonder why the msm doesn't treat Biden the same way in his "interviews". Hhmmm.

Savannah did a great job. I'm MIGHT have a slight chub after watching her bitch slap Trump. :lol:
Trump handled it well. I personally don't have a problem with her antics and quips, but they should treat Biden no differently.
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Re: POTUS Debate #2 10/15, 9 PM ECB

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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:31 pm
Ibanez wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:07 pm

Yeah but that was different....Right?

BDK, can we get a ruling how this doesn't apply to Trump?
Trump was willing to do 3 in person debates.

I don’t consider one person in one location, and one person in another (coukd be thousands of miles away) streamed over the internet, a real debate.
So you don't consider it makes it not a real debate? Do we not debate ideas on this message board? Your moving the goal posts, champ.
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Re: POTUS Debate #2 10/15, 9 PM ECB

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Ibanez wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:14 am
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:31 pm
Trump was willing to do 3 in person debates.

I don’t consider one person in one location, and one person in another (coukd be thousands of miles away) streamed over the internet, a real debate.
So you don't consider it makes it not a real debate? Do we not debate ideas on this message board? Your moving the goal posts, champ.
You're going to compare a message board to a live, in person, televised debate? :suspicious: :roll:
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Re: POTUS Debate #2 10/15, 9 PM ECB

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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:09 pm
Ibanez wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:14 am
So you don't consider it makes it not a real debate? Do we not debate ideas on this message board? Your moving the goal posts, champ.
You're going to compare a message board to a live, in person, televised debate? :suspicious: :roll:
I’ve learned more from numerous CS debates than any Presidential debate I’ve ever watched. Debates are mostly for gullible apolitical dummies or political nerds who enjoy theater.
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Re: POTUS Debate #2 10/15, 9 PM ECB

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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:09 pm
Ibanez wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:14 am
So you don't consider it makes it not a real debate? Do we not debate ideas on this message board? Your moving the goal posts, champ.
You're going to compare a message board to a live, in person, televised debate? :suspicious: :roll:
A debate is a debate
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Re: POTUS Debate #2 10/15, 9 PM ECB

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Ibanez wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:56 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:09 pm
You're going to compare a message board to a live, in person, televised debate? :suspicious: :roll:
A debate is a debate
Yeah banter on a message board where you can take minutes, hrs or even days to respond, can look stuff up, copy/paste, can’t see the other person (nor can anyone else), is the same as a live/in person debate..
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Re: POTUS Debate #2 10/15, 9 PM ECB

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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:17 am
Ibanez wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:56 am

A debate is a debate
Yeah banter on a message board where you can take minutes, hrs or even days to respond, can look stuff up, copy/paste, can’t see the other person (nor can anyone else), is the same as a live/in person debate..
Well, if those are your criteria for an acceptable, "real" debate -
time pressure, need to reply quickly: Yep, this is true in a streaming situation.
Can look up stuff: Would be able to prevent this in a streaming situation.
copy/paste: Yep, can't do that
Can't see the person (or anyone else): Streaming avoids this problem

So I guess you agree that streaming this debate with the two parties in separate locations would have qualified the same as a live/in person debate. Glad to see you're coming around :clap:
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:17 am
Ibanez wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:56 am

A debate is a debate
Yeah banter on a message board where you can take minutes, hrs or even days to respond, can look stuff up, copy/paste, can’t see the other person (nor can anyone else), is the same as a live/in person debate..
I hold debate practice sessions with my boxer and have the kids conduct oppo research before I enter into battle here.
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Re: POTUS Debate #2 10/15, 9 PM ECB

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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:17 am
Ibanez wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:56 am

A debate is a debate
Yeah banter on a message board where you can take minutes, hrs or even days to respond, can look stuff up, copy/paste, can’t see the other person (nor can anyone else), is the same as a live/in person debate..
According to Webster a debate is "a contention by words or arguments."
A debate doesn't have to be a formal setting, loosely moderated by a member of the media where candidates repeat memorized, canned responses in a short time frame. If anything, the debate we are involved here is better. More pure. It lasts longer and has actually educated the opposition.

Want to know something ironic? We're DEBATING what a debate is. :lol:
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Re: POTUS Debate #2 10/15, 9 PM ECB

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Ibanez wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:49 am
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:17 am
Yeah banter on a message board where you can take minutes, hrs or even days to respond, can look stuff up, copy/paste, can’t see the other person (nor can anyone else), is the same as a live/in person debate..
According to Webster a debate is "a contention by words or arguments."
A debate doesn't have to be a formal setting, loosely moderated by a member of the media where candidates repeat memorized, canned responses in a short time frame. If anything, the debate we are involved here is better. More pure. It lasts longer and has actually educated the opposition.

Want to know something ironic? We're DEBATING what a debate is. :lol:
You didn‘t just move the goalposts, you blew them up..
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Re: POTUS Debate #2 10/15, 9 PM ECB

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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:46 am
Ibanez wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:49 am According to Webster a debate is "a contention by words or arguments."
A debate doesn't have to be a formal setting, loosely moderated by a member of the media where candidates repeat memorized, canned responses in a short time frame. If anything, the debate we are involved here is better. More pure. It lasts longer and has actually educated the opposition.

Want to know something ironic? We're DEBATING what a debate is. :lol:
You didn‘t just move the goalposts, you blew them up..
A debate is a debate regardless of whether it's in person or virtual.

Trump is a pussy regardless of whether he debates or not.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:24 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:46 am
You didn‘t just move the goalposts, you blew them up..
A debate is a debate regardless of whether it's in person or virtual.

Trump is a pussy regardless of whether he debates or not.
So you’re going to compare message board banter to a live in person debate also. :dunce: :lol:
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:03 pm
UNI88 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:24 pm
A debate is a debate regardless of whether it's in person or virtual.

Trump is a pussy regardless of whether he debates or not.
So you’re going to compare message board banter to a live in person debate also. :dunce: :lol:
There is nothing to compare, a debate is a debate regardless of whether it is in person or virtual.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:42 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:03 pm
So you’re going to compare message board banter to a live in person debate also. :dunce: :lol:
There is nothing to compare, a debate is a debate regardless of whether it is in person or virtual.
Wrong.
And a message board is in no way comparable.
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:16 pm
UNI88 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:42 pm
There is nothing to compare, a debate is a debate regardless of whether it is in person or virtual.
Wrong.
And a message board is in no way comparable.
Wrong.

Who cares if a message board is comparable to a presidential debate or not. The differences between an in person debate and a debate with candidates in different locations are minimal. You're lost in the weeds deflecting from the reality that Trump is a pussy running from a situation where he can't try to bully and intimidate rather than actually debating.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:28 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:16 pm
Wrong.
And a message board is in no way comparable.
Wrong.

Who cares if a message board is comparable to a presidential debate or not. The differences between an in person debate and a debate with candidates in different locations are minimal. You're lost in the weeds deflecting from the reality that Trump is a pussy running from a situation where he can't try to bully and intimidate rather than actually debating.
So not minimal?
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89Hen wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:35 pm
UNI88 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:28 pm
Wrong.

Who cares if a message board is comparable to a presidential debate or not. The differences between an in person debate and a debate with candidates in different locations are minimal. You're lost in the weeds deflecting from the reality that Trump is a pussy running from a situation where he can't try to bully and intimidate rather than actually debating.
So not minimal?
I don't consider bullying and intimidation to be important parts of a debate so the differences are minimal.
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:46 am
Ibanez wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:49 am According to Webster a debate is "a contention by words or arguments."
A debate doesn't have to be a formal setting, loosely moderated by a member of the media where candidates repeat memorized, canned responses in a short time frame. If anything, the debate we are involved here is better. More pure. It lasts longer and has actually educated the opposition.

Want to know something ironic? We're DEBATING what a debate is. :lol:
You didn‘t just move the goalposts, you blew them up..
What? How? I stated facts and a definition. Are you saying that you’re right and Merriem Webster is wrong?

You’re being silly
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:31 pm
Ibanez wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:07 pm

Yeah but that was different....Right?

BDK, can we get a ruling how this doesn't apply to Trump?
Trump was willing to do 3 in person debates.

I don’t consider one person in one location, and one person in another (coukd be thousands of miles away) streamed over the internet, a real debate.
For consistency - you didn’t respond to my request.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:49 pm
89Hen wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:35 pm

So not minimal?
I don't consider bullying and intimidation to be important parts of a debate so the differences are minimal.
But they could be effective or not effective, so a bigger part than you or I would care to admit.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:28 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:16 pm
Wrong.
And a message board is in no way comparable.
Wrong.

Who cares if a message board is comparable to a presidential debate or not. The differences between an in person debate and a debate with candidates in different locations are minimal. You're lost in the weeds deflecting from the reality that Trump is a pussy running from a situation where he can't try to bully and intimidate rather than actually debating.
Wrong.
And Trump isn’t the pussy who pulled out of doing an in person debate. That was Biden..
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Ibanez wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:27 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:46 am
You didn‘t just move the goalposts, you blew them up..
What? How? I stated facts and a definition. Are you saying that you’re right and Merriem Webster is wrong?

You’re being silly
You’re the one who initially brought up trying to compare debating on a message board to in person debating. Talk about silly (and blowing up the goalposts).
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89Hen wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:27 am
UNI88 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:49 pm
I don't consider bullying and intimidation to be important parts of a debate so the differences are minimal.
But they could be effective or not effective, so a bigger part than you or I would care to admit.
It might also be effective for a debater to use a baseball bat on their opponent but it wouldn't mean that they actually won the debate.

For a supposed tough guy 'Murican patriot, Trump sure is a pussy snowflake when he doesn't get his way.
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