Probably end up like 2016, Trump wins electoral college and Biden wins popular vote.
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That wouldn't shock me at all. I'd expect Biden to do better than Hillary's paltry 227 electoral votes, but I'm not getting the warm fuzzy right now that he gets 270. Still a lot could change between now and then - heck, the race has changed significantly in just the last two weeks.
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Democrats: 1. The Pandemic! 2. Trump bad!
Republicans: 1. Crime and riots! 2. Socialism!
Continuous loop for the next two months.
Republicans: 1. Crime and riots! 2. Socialism!
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Yuck. Can we just fast forward til after the election?
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Then you get to hear all about the loser's conspiracies, possible recounts, etc, etc for a few months to a year, or 4 if Trump wins.
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I am trying to think happy thoughts here, but you and 88 keep on trying to bring me down.
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How Trump wins?
Howzabout “How Biden gives it away”?
Howzabout “How Biden gives it away”?
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You deep six guy who is filling stadiums and raising record amounts of money $20 at a time for a tired old hack who is speaking to crowds of dozens but has a few corporate donors with unlimited resources. Which coincides exactly with my years old prediction, probably still archived right here, in a Citizens United thread, that the passage of CU was officially GAME OVER for us and made it official that government is for sale to the highest bidder. The usual short-sighted crowd scoffed, like they always do but here we are. Let all bow down before the Oracle of Little Egypt....
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he sounds tired and looks feeble
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That isn’t even the start of it
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They can't be that stupid again after the debacle last time. They either want to lose or they're Republicans too.
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There's been a change in the agenda
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Just want to bring this to the front.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:56 amWell that's just hypocritical of Christians! Trump takes 37 states this time.
37 states. Called it back in August.
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Name them.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:55 pmJust want to bring this to the front.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:56 am
Well that's just hypocritical of Christians! Trump takes 37 states this time.
37 states. Called it back in August.
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The 30 he won last time, plus:AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:34 pmName them.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:55 pm
Just want to bring this to the front.
37 states. Called it back in August.
Minnesota
New Hampshire
Maine
Virginia
Colorado
New Mexico
Nevada
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Virginia? He ain't winning Virginia.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:30 amThe 30 he won last time, plus:
Minnesota
New Hampshire
Maine
Virginia
Colorado
New Mexico
Nevada
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Stealing this phrase from Andy.GannonFan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:46 amVirginia? He ain't winning Virginia.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:30 am
The 30 he won last time, plus:
Minnesota
New Hampshire
Maine
Virginia
Colorado
New Mexico
Nevada
This is my Pete's Political Power Poll! It ain't perfect.
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Well, I don’t think the 30 he won last time are a lock...and he ain’t winning Minnesota, Virginia, (all of) Maine, or New Mexico.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:30 amThe 30 he won last time, plus:
Minnesota
New Hampshire
Maine
Virginia
Colorado
New Mexico
Nevada
And Nevada is iffy.
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We shall see. Mwahaha.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:37 pmWell, I don’t think the 30 he won last time are a lock...and he ain’t winning Minnesota, Virginia, (all of) Maine, or New Mexico.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:30 am
The 30 he won last time, plus:
Minnesota
New Hampshire
Maine
Virginia
Colorado
New Mexico
Nevada
And Nevada is iffy.
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I like Seattle’s optimisum, but I’m probably the most pro Trump guy here, and I say Trumps absolute best case, remote chance scenario, running the table, is 33 states..too bad we don’t have access to both side’s internals..$$$ is a better indicator than public polls...AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:37 pmWell, I don’t think the 30 he won last time are a lock...and he ain’t winning Minnesota, Virginia, (all of) Maine, or New Mexico.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:30 am
The 30 he won last time, plus:
Minnesota
New Hampshire
Maine
Virginia
Colorado
New Mexico
Nevada
And Nevada is iffy.
https://www.predictit.org/
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Can't say how reliable this site is, but they use screenshots from a Dem firm. Shows how the Dems aren't building the early vote leads they were hoping for.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:33 pmI like Seattle’s optimisum, but I’m probably the most pro Trump guy here, and I say Trumps absolute best case, remote chance scenario, running the table, is 33 states..too bad we don’t have access to both side’s internals..$$$ is a better indicator than public polls...
https://www.predictit.org/
It's not all the states, but ones essential to Trump's victory. Assume this is holding true for other states as well. Plus, Trump has had a huge ground game registering new voters in addition to retaining the ones that propelled him to victory in 2016.
Biden just isn't generating that sort of enthusiasm.
https://www.toptradeguru.com/news/dems- ... tes/?amp=1
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How ironic would it be if the lockdowns in some key swing states with donk govs (MI, WI, PA, NC) the 4 that are mentioned, end up severely hurting democrats, costing them (or at least contributing to them) losing those states?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:41 pmCan't say how reliable this site is, but they use screenshots from a Dem firm. Shows how the Dems aren't building the early vote leads they were hoping for.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:33 pm
I like Seattle’s optimisum, but I’m probably the most pro Trump guy here, and I say Trumps absolute best case, remote chance scenario, running the table, is 33 states..too bad we don’t have access to both side’s internals..$$$ is a better indicator than public polls...
https://www.predictit.org/
It's not all the states, but ones essential to Trump's victory. Assume this is holding true for other states as well. Plus, Trump has had a huge ground game registering new voters in addition to retaining the ones that propelled him to victory in 2016.
Biden just isn't generating that sort of enthusiasm.
https://www.toptradeguru.com/news/dems- ... tes/?amp=1
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It would be par for the course. Dems are losers. Of course before Trump, it was the Reps.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:48 pmHow ironic would it be if the lockdowns in some key swing states with donk govs (MI, WI, PA, NC) the 4 that are mentioned, end up severely hurting democrats, costing them (or at least contributing to them) losing those states?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:41 pm
Can't say how reliable this site is, but they use screenshots from a Dem firm. Shows how the Dems aren't building the early vote leads they were hoping for.
It's not all the states, but ones essential to Trump's victory. Assume this is holding true for other states as well. Plus, Trump has had a huge ground game registering new voters in addition to retaining the ones that propelled him to victory in 2016.
Biden just isn't generating that sort of enthusiasm.
https://www.toptradeguru.com/news/dems- ... tes/?amp=1
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If you think $$$ is a better indicator than polls (which isn't without merit. Why would you continue to give money to someone you don't support?) then....BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:33 pmI like Seattle’s optimisum, but I’m probably the most pro Trump guy here, and I say Trumps absolute best case, remote chance scenario, running the table, is 33 states..too bad we don’t have access to both side’s internals..$$$ is a better indicator than public polls...
https://www.predictit.org/
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/ ... und-statesPresident Trump stopped all of his television and radio advertising in three states and substantially reduced it in four others in recent weeks after his lackluster fundraising left him unable to match a surge in spending by his Democratic challenger, Joe Biden.
Trump’s retreat from Ohio, Iowa and New Hampshire reflects his struggle to change the dynamics of a race that polls suggest he is on track to lose. In the six weeks since his party’s national convention, Trump’s campaign has yanked more than $17 million in ads he’d previously booked in those states.
However - late in any campaign, there are decisions about which states you can go dark in and still have a reasonable shot at winning vs which states you have to pour money into. It cannot be an easy decision regardless if you're the front runner or not.
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That would be interesting.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:48 pmHow ironic would it be if the lockdowns in some key swing states with donk govs (MI, WI, PA, NC) the 4 that are mentioned, end up severely hurting democrats, costing them (or at least contributing to them) losing those states?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:41 pm
Can't say how reliable this site is, but they use screenshots from a Dem firm. Shows how the Dems aren't building the early vote leads they were hoping for.
It's not all the states, but ones essential to Trump's victory. Assume this is holding true for other states as well. Plus, Trump has had a huge ground game registering new voters in addition to retaining the ones that propelled him to victory in 2016.
Biden just isn't generating that sort of enthusiasm.
https://www.toptradeguru.com/news/dems- ... tes/?amp=1
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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watc ... ve-alreadyAlmost 47 percent of all registered voters in North Carolina have cast their ballots a week before Election Day, according to figures from the state board of elections.
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More North Carolina voters have already cast absentee ballots through mail-in and in-person early voting than in all of 2016.
About 3.17 million absentee ballots had been cast in North Carolina as of Sunday, nine days before Election Day, records show. The number will continue to climb as early-voting sites remain open this week and mail-in ballots continue to roll in.
In 2016, a total of about 3.14 million North Carolinians used absentee voting.
“We’ve never seen numbers of this magnitude, ever, in North Carolina,” said Michael Bitzer, a political science professor at Catawba College in Salisbury and one of the state’s leading political experts.
The coronavirus pandemic has been a big reason for the increase, with many people opting for mail-in ballots instead of going to the polls. Nearly 780,000 North Carolinians have mailed in their ballots, and another 650,000 have requested mail-in ballots but have not yet sent them back.
Four years ago, fewer than 200,000 people voted by mail in North Carolina.
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